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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:40 pm
by Person012345
San-Silvacian wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Take your racist bullshit elsewhere. Note that Japan, which has an extremely low amount of immigration, also has an extremely high rate of sexual assault.


This is true, I know a Japanese woman who when she would take the little train things they have in the city that being groped and squeezed is a common thing. She also noted that guys will even grope her at her work as a noodle-shop waitress.

So, yeah, that stereotype is true.

I wasn't stating it based on a stereotype. For example:
Crowded trains are a favourite location for groping and a 2001 survey conducted in two Tokyo high schools revealed that more than 70% of students had been groped while travelling on them.[1]

That's a startling high figure, but regardless, I know that stuff like that can be a problem there. They don't have women-only carriages for nothing.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:08 pm
by San-Silvacian
Person012345 wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
This is true, I know a Japanese woman who when she would take the little train things they have in the city that being groped and squeezed is a common thing. She also noted that guys will even grope her at her work as a noodle-shop waitress.

So, yeah, that stereotype is true.

I wasn't stating it based on a stereotype. For example:
Crowded trains are a favourite location for groping and a 2001 survey conducted in two Tokyo high schools revealed that more than 70% of students had been groped while travelling on them.[1]

That's a startling high figure, but regardless, I know that stuff like that can be a problem there. They don't have women-only carriages for nothing.


I don't understand how a nation that didn't have their first movie scene kiss until 1947 turned into that in under 60 years.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:15 pm
by The Blaatschapen
San-Silvacian wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I wasn't stating it based on a stereotype. For example:

That's a startling high figure, but regardless, I know that stuff like that can be a problem there. They don't have women-only carriages for nothing.


I don't understand how a nation that didn't have their first movie scene kiss until 1947 turned into that in under 60 years.


It's Japan. They were quite isolated until the 1850s. Yet just a bit more than 50 years after that they were winning a war from Russia. Not even to mention what happened after that.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:29 pm
by Galborg
Yaltabaoth wrote:Hey Homosexy, just a thought.
Maybe you could edit the petition into your OP, so it doesn't get lost on page 31.

Also question to Mods: is there any other way we could promote the petition on the site, besides keeping this thread active?


Agreed. I only noticed the Petition by chance.

When a thread includes a Poll, that Poll is at the top of every page of the Thread. Is there a way to put the Petition link at the top of each page?

Likewise maybe a better thread title? I avoided this thread for ages because squick, I don't want to know.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:48 pm
by Person012345
San-Silvacian wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I wasn't stating it based on a stereotype. For example:

That's a startling high figure, but regardless, I know that stuff like that can be a problem there. They don't have women-only carriages for nothing.


I don't understand how a nation that didn't have their first movie scene kiss until 1947 turned into that in under 60 years.

Pornography still legally has to be censored or something. It's because the society has allowed it to develop that way. Women are still largely expected to be submissive I gather which probably doesn't help.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:49 pm
by Vecherd
Person012345 wrote:I'm reverse racist. I am more comfortable around non-whites than whites, whilst also being white. >.>


No, that is just regular racism. Proclaiming that non-whites are more comfortable that whites.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:18 pm
by Person012345
Vecherd wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I'm reverse racist. I am more comfortable around non-whites than whites, whilst also being white. >.>


No, that is just regular racism. Proclaiming that non-whites are more comfortable that whites.

Ik. The post I was replying to was talking about how reverse racism is racism. I was being somewhat facetious as I thought that wasn't the type of reverse racist she was talking about.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:21 pm
by Person012345
Well, I'm not sure it comes under the racism label at all since last time I checked, racism required you to actually hold a belief about a race.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:32 pm
by Nahgallay
The Daktanese Technocracy wrote:
Nahgallay wrote:

Um... Clearly you're not getting something.. I Never said anything about females only raping males, so what are you talking about??

Let me show you what you said.

I know male-rape is an issue, that's why I addressed it. But it is very rare that women rape,


Heavily implying that when women rape, it's always raping men. You're not getting it. You keep implying stereotypes that are completely false, even if you don't mean it.


Ok those are two different statements. Not meant to go together. You are just reading it wrong. I'm not implying any stereotype whatsoever.. I already recognized that there are female rapists and i know they dont only rape men, so I'm not sure what you're arguing about? Is it just to ramble on?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:38 pm
by Galborg
Person012345 wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
I don't understand how a nation that didn't have their first movie scene kiss until 1947 turned into that in under 60 years.

Pornography still legally has to be censored or something. It's because the society has allowed it to develop that way. Women are still largely expected to be submissive I gather which probably doesn't help.


And the opposite is that in Japanese Porn, the women have pubic hair, so the Audience can imagine that we are making love to consenting adults. American porn is all about no pubic hair and imagining we are doing it to 8 year olds.

Paradox: if there is more non-consensual groping on Japanese trains than American trains although Japanese Porn is more consensual than American porn???

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:51 pm
by Souseiseki
Galborg wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Pornography still legally has to be censored or something. It's because the society has allowed it to develop that way. Women are still largely expected to be submissive I gather which probably doesn't help.


And the opposite is that in Japanese Porn, the women have pubic hair, so the Audience can imagine that we are making love to consenting adults. American porn is all about no pubic hair and imagining we are doing it to 8 year olds.

Paradox: if there is more non-consensual groping on Japanese trains than American trains although Japanese Porn is more consensual than American porn???

i imagine the reason they have pubic is hair is so they can try to avoid having to pixel it up and ruin the scene

Pornography still legally has to be censored or something. It's because the society has allowed it to develop that way. Women are still largely expected to be submissive I gather which probably doesn't help.


the unfortunate pitfalls of a legal system where you couldn't be raped by your husband until 1996 and men can't be raped period

Oh there's white privilege, male privilege, etc. There's lots of privilege bull shit.
I think that white privilege exists, sure. But it depends on where you are, what you're doing, etc. There's always going to be a privilege. I certainly don't have white privilege in the middle of Compton, but maybe I have it trying to get a job at a diner in Texas. Privileges will always be there, but they're not something to blame your problems on, is what I'm saying.


this sorta makes sense and at the risk of smugness is good enough for me at this point in time. i really don't want to be the person that came into a thread about rape and started screaming at people. :v

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:11 pm
by Person012345
Galborg wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Pornography still legally has to be censored or something. It's because the society has allowed it to develop that way. Women are still largely expected to be submissive I gather which probably doesn't help.


And the opposite is that in Japanese Porn, the women have pubic hair, so the Audience can imagine that we are making love to consenting adults. American porn is all about no pubic hair and imagining we are doing it to 8 year olds.

Paradox: if there is more non-consensual groping on Japanese trains than American trains although Japanese Porn is more consensual than American porn???

Oh, the japs have plenty of underage and rape porn flying around.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:17 pm
by Souseiseki
Person012345 wrote:the japs


:eyebrow:

i'm not allowed to just make a smilie post am i

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:43 pm
by Katganistan
Person012345 wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I've stated before I don't think maiming or killing rapists is the answer. I may be reading it wrong but I don't want to understand his mindset. Understanding someone is sometimes a pretext for having sympathy for them -- and I haven't any for this person.

Understanding what someone thinks and feels and why they think and feel it is a necessary component if we want to try and stop it happening in the future.

I think they're selfish, insecure asses who get off on hurting others. or sociopaths who just don't care who they hurt as long as they enjoy it. How do you fix that? I mean hey, people have been understanding bullies and trying to educate about it but you can't really stop sociopaths from being sociopaths.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:51 pm
by PapaJacky
Studies have shown that you can off-set sociopaths' "desires" with bad games and good parents.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:55 pm
by Katganistan
The Daktanese Technocracy wrote:
JuNii wrote:are you trying to equate an opinion on a picture with a physical attack on a person? I hope not.

also, I am not on the jury for this... [censored]'s trial if and when it gets to trial and I'm pretty damned sure I won't be. so my opinions and thoughts are perfectly safe for me to have concerning any 'punishments' meted out.

I'm not denying you can have opinions. What I'm saying is, your opinions are pretty wrong.\

That is probably the most arrogant thing I've heard in a long time.
Almost as arrogant as telling someone what to feel or what not to feel.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:01 pm
by Katganistan
PapaJacky wrote:Studies have shown that you can off-set sociopaths' "desires" with bad games and good parents.

Mmm hmm. I'd be interested to see your source on that.Assuming you're not being satirical. that is.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:06 pm
by Condunum
PapaJacky wrote:Studies have shown that you can off-set sociopaths' "desires" with bad games and good parents.

Studies also show that sociopathy and psychopathy are bred in their environment, and not genetic.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:07 pm
by Tlaceceyaya
Condunum wrote:
PapaJacky wrote:Studies have shown that you can off-set sociopaths' "desires" with bad games and good parents.

Studies also show that sociopathy and psychopathy are bred in their environment, and not genetic.

Studies also show that people more closely related to sociopaths and psychopaths are more likely to be sociopaths or psychopaths.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:12 pm
by Condunum
Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Condunum wrote:Studies also show that sociopathy and psychopathy are bred in their environment, and not genetic.

Studies also show that people more closely related to sociopaths and psychopaths are more likely to be sociopaths or psychopaths.

I wasn't agreeing with the studies. My point is that you can state that studies show (thing) for basically anything, but you need a source. In Aggression and Violent Behavior, written by Andrea L. Glenn, Robert Kurzban and Adrian Raine, it is shown that Anti-Social Personality Disorders, including Psychopathy and Sociopathy, the heritability factor is about 50%

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:36 pm
by Person012345
Souseiseki wrote:
Person012345 wrote:the japs


:eyebrow:

i'm not allowed to just make a smilie post am i

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:37 pm
by Souseiseki
Person012345 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
:eyebrow:

i'm not allowed to just make a smilie post am i

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

"the japs"? really?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:37 pm
by Person012345
Katganistan wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Understanding what someone thinks and feels and why they think and feel it is a necessary component if we want to try and stop it happening in the future.

I think they're selfish, insecure asses who get off on hurting others. or sociopaths who just don't care who they hurt as long as they enjoy it. How do you fix that? I mean hey, people have been understanding bullies and trying to educate about it but you can't really stop sociopaths from being sociopaths.

But that's not really it. Sociopaths aren't necessarily rapists, so the mere fact of being sociopathic doesn't make one a rapist.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:37 pm
by Person012345
Souseiseki wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

"the japs"? really?

I'm still not sure what you're trying to say. Where are you from?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:40 pm
by Souseiseki
Person012345 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:"the japs"? really?

I'm still not sure what you're trying to say. Where are you from?

~*scotland*~

what about you? is there a place where "jap" carries no baggage whatsoever?

i'm not really sure how i can make it more obvious