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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:46 pm

Tothia wrote:Did you know that before 1960 (I beleive) repa wasn't illegal. That sucks, I can't relate to your problem though since 1. I'm a male and 2. It never happend to me.


I fail to see how males can't relate to the problem? :unsure:
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:48 pm

Tothia wrote:Did you know that before 1960 (I beleive) rape wasn't illegal. That sucks, I can't relate to your problem though since 1. I'm a male and 2. It never happend to me.

Your being a male has nothing to do with it.
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Postby Tothia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:48 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Tothia wrote:Did you know that before 1960 (I beleive) repa wasn't illegal. That sucks, I can't relate to your problem though since 1. I'm a male and 2. It never happend to me.


I fail to see how males can't relate to the problem? :unsure:


Males aren't targeted as often.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Goodclark wrote:
Person012345 wrote:It happens.

definitely not as much as females

What's your point?

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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Stedicules wrote:No, I'm not kidding. They're humans too, and don't deserve to have their rights taken away for committing a crime, even if its as heinous as rape.


So are the females or other males they rape.
For the benifit of humanity and to remove those who go against the laws of society, all men who commit rape should be castrated.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


If a woman is raped, the rapist should not be allowed outside of a cell, true. But, torture is inhumane, and we are certainly better than criminals, as stated earlier. Besides, do you not think that being stuck in a cold, dark, unfriendly prison is a bad punishment? He'll probably be raped himself.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Tothia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I fail to see how males can't relate to the problem? :unsure:


Males aren't targeted as often.

Which isn't the same as never being targeted. Again, you can't relate because it didn't happen to you, not because you have a penis.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
So are the females or other males they rape.
For the benifit of humanity and to remove those who go against the laws of society, all men who commit rape should be castrated.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


If a woman is raped, the rapist should not be allowed outside of a cell, true. But, torture is inhumane, and we are certainly better than criminals, as stated earlier. Besides, do you not think that being stuck in a cold, dark, unfriendly prison is a bad punishment? He'll probably be raped himself.

Castration is not torture.

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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Tothia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I fail to see how males can't relate to the problem? :unsure:


Males aren't targeted as often.

The inmates of every prison in America would beg to differ.



That and every single male/female rapist solely focused on men.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:51 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
So are the females or other males they rape.
For the benifit of humanity and to remove those who go against the laws of society, all men who commit rape should be castrated.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


If a woman is raped, the rapist should not be allowed outside of a cell, true. But, torture is inhumane, and we are certainly better than criminals, as stated earlier. Besides, do you not think that being stuck in a cold, dark, unfriendly prison is a bad punishment? He'll probably be raped himself.

Damn it! Rape victims are not exclusively female! Rapists are not exclusively male! IT CAN GO EITHER FUCKING WAY!!
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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:53 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


If a woman is raped, the rapist should not be allowed outside of a cell, true. But, torture is inhumane, and we are certainly better than criminals, as stated earlier. Besides, do you not think that being stuck in a cold, dark, unfriendly prison is a bad punishment? He'll probably be raped himself.

Castration is not torture.

If it's surgically, while he is not awake/numbed, no it isn't.


If he can feel everything being done to him? It is certainly torture.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:54 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Castration is not torture.

If it's surgically, while he is not awake/numbed, no it isn't.


If he can feel everything being done to him? It is certainly torture.

Yes, and whilst I think a number of people are indeed imagining it done using bricks and no painkiller, that's not what's said. Castration would usually refer to a form of humane castration unless otherwise specified.

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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:54 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


If a woman is raped, the rapist should not be allowed outside of a cell, true. But, torture is inhumane, and we are certainly better than criminals, as stated earlier. Besides, do you not think that being stuck in a cold, dark, unfriendly prison is a bad punishment? He'll probably be raped himself.

Damn it! Women do not exclusively get raped! Men are not exclusively rapists! IT CAN GO EITHER FUCKING WAY!!

I literally just stated that above you, yet you neglect to see that the post I was responding to was saying that all "men" would be castrated. Not "them", not "the rapist".


I am fully aware that rape can happen on any side of the spectrum.
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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:55 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:If it's surgically, while he is not awake/numbed, no it isn't.


If he can feel everything being done to him? It is certainly torture.

Yes, and whilst I think a number of people are indeed imagining it done using bricks and no painkiller, that's not what's said. Castration would usually refer to a form of humane castration unless otherwise specified.

Ah.



Then yes, you're perfectly correct, he/she being castrated in a humane way would not be torture.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:57 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Damn it! Women do not exclusively get raped! Men are not exclusively rapists! IT CAN GO EITHER FUCKING WAY!!

I literally just stated that above you, yet you neglect to see that the post I was responding to was saying that "he" would be castrated. Not "them", not "the rapist".


I am fully aware that rape can happen on any side of the spectrum.

Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:59 pm

Scomagia wrote:Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.

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Postby Demen 2 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:00 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:I literally just stated that above you, yet you neglect to see that the post I was responding to was saying that "he" would be castrated. Not "them", not "the rapist".


I am fully aware that rape can happen on any side of the spectrum.

Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.

My my.



The poster said, that any man who rapes a woman should be castrated. I responded to that sentence.
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Postby The Ottish Empire » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 pm

First off, let me start by saying I'm so very sorry that this happened to you, I know nothing I can say will be enough to ease your pain, I just hope you can find the strength to carry on with your life, and this goes for all the rape victims who've come here to show their support.

Now lets answer some questions:

1) There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?

While I agree that it is fairly graphic, I don't believe that it should be blocked simply because it displays a faked rape scene.

2) Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped? Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?

I suppose it is because no one takes pride, nor do they want to talk about how they were forced to do something that they would never do of their own free will. Of course it should be talked about more, whether it be to help someone recover from such a traumatic event, or to help prevent it from happening to another person

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:I literally just stated that above you, yet you neglect to see that the post I was responding to was saying that "he" would be castrated. Not "them", not "the rapist".


I am fully aware that rape can happen on any side of the spectrum.

Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.

Calm down. <3

I think it tends to be a slip of the tongue (as it were) in this case. It's not acceptable, but I guess you just need to remind people. Although the denigration of male rape victims is an issue I think it's seperate from the tendency of people to assume a victim is female and a perp male. The latter you just need to keep reminding them that male rape is a problem. Correct them when they use inappropriate phraseology. It's natural because of the way society portrays rape that way, and if you keep reminding people they'll eventually get it.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:04 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.

My my.



The poster said, that any man who rapes a woman should be castrated. I responded to that sentence.

Don't condescend to me.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:04 pm

Demen 2 wrote:My my.



The poster said, that any man who rapes a woman should be castrated. I responded to that sentence.

No they didn't. You used "woman" inappropriately. The person you were replying to, IIRC said "any man who rapes", to which you inappropriately drew the conclusion "rapes a woman".

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:05 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Which is why you refer exclusively to women being raped? In the future, if you don't want any fucking confusion, don't mention just one fucking gender. Going out for a smoke before I lose my shit.

Calm down. <3

I think it tends to be a slip of the tongue (as it were) in this case. It's not acceptable, but I guess you just need to remind people. Although the denigration of male rape victims is an issue I think it's seperate from the tendency of people to assume a victim is female and a perp male. The latter you just need to keep reminding them that male rape is a problem. Correct them when they use inappropriate phraseology. It's natural because of the way society portrays rape that way, and if you keep reminding people they'll eventually get it.

I guess it just hits me hard because I am male and I have been raped. Not a lot of shit pushes my berserk button, but that did.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:07 pm

Scomagia wrote:I guess it just hits me hard because I am male and I have been raped. Not a lot of shit pushes my berserk button, but that did.

I understand completely how you feel in that regard.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:08 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I guess it just hits me hard because I am male and I have been raped. Not a lot of shit pushes my berserk button, but that did.

I understand completely how you feel in that regard.

Thank you. :hug:
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Postby Galborg » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:09 pm

I can't relate to your problem though since 1. I'm a male and 2. It never happend to me.


I can relate. I haven't suffered that much pain, but I can remember my own pain and imagine more.
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Postby The Daktanese Technocracy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Jeez, I have a fever and leave for ten minutes, and emotionally charged jerky illogical punishments fly everywhere. Is there any actual justification for any of this?
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