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Postby Telesha » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:01 pm

Homosexy wrote:And it's not something you can "get over", either, but I believe it is something you can put aside, although I'm not sure it's something you can ever move past.


I was thinking about this and my own experiences.

For me, it's a lot like what's happened after I quit smoking (bear with me):

It's been 10 years since I quit, but it's never really fully gone away. I rarely, if ever, think about it. But every so often something will hit that trigger and I'll get a cigarette craving.

It's been over 15 since I was assaulted. I almost never think about it anymore, but every so often there's a trigger and I'll get really uncomfortable (or angry).

Basically: you can move on, you can put it aside, but it never fully goes away. Just gets more and more tolerable.

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Postby The Daktanese Technocracy » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:17 pm

Homosexy wrote:
The Daktanese Technocracy wrote:Well, personally, I have no negative feelings towards my rape scenario. (I do get a little nervous when I see my rapist, however.) So I guess that would qualify as "Getting over" or "Moving past" it. There might be multiple reasons why, I think. Such as the other things I suffered through as a kid which still have me in fear today overshadowing it, and the fact that it's been a pretty long time.

I would almost venture to say (and this is just my opinion, so don't everybody jump me with how wrong I am at the same time) that I would rather it happened to me as a child, if it had to happen at all. I imagine, there would be a lot less guilt, a lot less emotional trauma, if it happened when I was a kid, because I wouldn't have understood until I was older. Now, when I got older, and understood, that would fuck shit up pretty bad, but to be older and while it's happening knowing that you're being raped and you're probably going to die, and then having to continue to be doing that later... I dunno. I think that it would have been a lot easier to live normal life if it had happened to me as a kid. But that's just me thinking now, and I can't know for sure

Heh, yeah, I didn't quite understand at the time, so I didn't think much of the being naked part. But it does come with some amplified psychological effects, such as becoming very afraid of people bigger than me. (luckily, I'm a pretty tall guy and know self defense focused martial arts, so I'm less afraid now.) I understood I was being held against my will, I just didn't understand the sex part. Personally, I've always been technically a Psychopath, so I don't think it changed me far too much. I'm sure I'd feel worse about it if I actually knew what was happening.
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Postby Homosexy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:20 am

THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.
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Postby The Dalekss » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:09 pm

Let's exterminate the retard

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:13 pm

*signs the Change.org one*

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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:16 pm

The Dalekss wrote:Let's exterminate the retard
Honestly, was that really necessary?
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Postby The Dalekss » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:36 pm

Wikipedia and Universe wrote:
The Dalekss wrote:Let's exterminate the retard
Honestly, was that really necessary?

extermination of inferior life forms is always necessary
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:59 pm

Yeah rape is fucking awful, and the stigma attached is worse. I'd know.
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Postby Person012345 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 pm

I'm sorry to hear about what happened, rape is awful.

I'll spread your petition around wherever I can.
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Postby Katganistan » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:32 pm

Homosexy wrote:THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.

Signed.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:33 pm

The Dalekss wrote:
Wikipedia and Universe wrote:Honestly, was that really necessary?

extermination of inferior life forms is always necessary
Exterminate ! Exterminate ! Exterminate !

Yeah. Take the joke elsewhere, it's not appropriate here.

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Postby Former Wellboneland » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:34 pm

Signed. I wish you luck.
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Postby Celebrity Sex Scandal » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Signed your first petition.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:49 pm

Homosexy wrote:THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.

Signed and sigged love.
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Postby Yaltabaoth » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:02 pm

Homosexy wrote:THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.


Done and done.

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Postby Tovaslavia » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:19 pm

I don't believe that rape scenes in media should be censored or made more "artsy". Rape, especially for the victims is very scary. It's the thought of being emotionally violated, physically abused, and knowing that you might not come out alive. There is no way to sugarcoat it or to make it scarier. And what's worse, you cannot talk to many people of society about it. The society views rape as such a taboo subject, that talking to most people will get you weird looks and you will be called out for being inappropriate. Some people even think that rape is the victim's own fault for dressing up in provocative ways. As a result, rape victims are afraid to come out out of fear of being judged negatively. These types of views are disgusting. Nobody deserves to get raped. The society needs to get rid of the "naughty" images associated with sex. Murder victims receive a ton of cries and sympathy.

Why can't rape victims receive the same treatment?

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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:08 am

Homosexy wrote:THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.
I'll sign the petition as a gesture of my support, despite my general skepticism of the utility of online petitions.

Just one question: Will my real name be kept confidential to all except the recipient?
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Postby Homosexy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:49 am

Wikipedia and Universe wrote:
Homosexy wrote:THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.
I'll sign the petition as a gesture of my support, despite my general skepticism of the utility of online petitions.

Just one question: Will my real name be kept confidential to all except the recipient?

As long as you check the box saying you don't want it to be displayed publicly.
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Postby Venaly » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:03 am

I know I'm coming onto the thread late, but I just wanted to say how much I admire you for being able to make such a thread mere days after what happened to you... It's been almost six years since I too was raped, and only recently have I found the strength and courage to be able to talk about it. The most painful part was carrying that bastard's child and bringing my daughter into this world, knowing I would have to put her up for adoption. Not many people know this about me, but it feels good to say it (or write it). She was so beautiful, and I wish that I hadn't had to give her up, but I knew that I wasn't going to be able to the right mother for her. I was only 15 when I had her. Not a day goes by that I don't think about what that man did to me and what I had to lose because of him.

Thank you for helping me find strength, I'm off to sign your petition :)
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Postby Homosexy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:45 pm

Continuing a conversation from the chat thread, because it's more appropriate here than in there, spamming everyone else's good day.

Blakk Metal wrote:
Homosexy wrote:What is that supposed to mean?

So why are doing an ineffective online petition?
Freelanderness wrote:And yet 97% of rapists never spend a day in jail.

:blink: That bad?

Well, an extra petition ain't gonna help...


First of all, I think you're acting like an ass. See the picture on the website? Look at my flag. That's me. Read through the website. Here, have a link: http://justiceforjanedoe.com. That all happened to me. I'm not asking to be babied. Say what you want. Freedom of speech. Be who you are. But your lack of tact is really crappy.

What else do you expect me to do? From what I've heard, my case has a snowball's chance in hell of the DA taking it, because, in the detective's own words: "we hand him cases on a silver platter with a little bow and he still doesn't take them". If the DA does not take the case, it's over. The rapist doesn't go to jail, it doesn't go on his record. Nothing.

So one more petition isn't going to help? That website is not an organization. It's a means of awareness. And has been sent to hundreds, if not thousands of people already. More people are signing it everyday. If we can get more people to sign it, and more people to be aware, not only does this ass hole possibly get sent to prison, but people realize that it's not a bad thing to speak up, and fight for yourself.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:52 pm

It sounds like the DA is an ass on cases even if he can win a case with his mouth shut.

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Postby Vitius » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm

Homosexy wrote:Continuing a conversation from the chat thread, because it's more appropriate here than in there, spamming everyone else's good day.

Blakk Metal wrote:So why are doing an ineffective online petition?

:blink: That bad?

Well, an extra petition ain't gonna help...


First of all, I think you're acting like an ass. See the picture on the website? Look at my flag. That's me. Read through the website. Here, have a link: http://justiceforjanedoe.com. That all happened to me. I'm not asking to be babied. Say what you want. Freedom of speech. Be who you are. But your lack of tact is really crappy.

What else do you expect me to do? From what I've heard, my case has a snowball's chance in hell of the DA taking it, because, in the detective's own words: "we hand him cases on a silver platter with a little bow and he still doesn't take them". If the DA does not take the case, it's over. The rapist doesn't go to jail, it doesn't go on his record. Nothing.

So one more petition isn't going to help? That website is not an organization. It's a means of awareness. And has been sent to hundreds, if not thousands of people already. More people are signing it everyday. If we can get more people to sign it, and more people to be aware, not only does this ass hole possibly get sent to prison, but people realize that it's not a bad thing to speak up, and fight for yourself.

I don't think that that's what he was trying to indicate...I'm certainly not a life coach or anything, but you'd probably get your message across better provided that you did not (intentionally or not) flame him.

:/
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm

Is that DA in an elected position or an appointed position? If the latter, who appoints him?
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Postby Homosexy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:58 pm

Vitius wrote:
Homosexy wrote:Continuing a conversation from the chat thread, because it's more appropriate here than in there, spamming everyone else's good day.



First of all, I think you're acting like an ass. See the picture on the website? Look at my flag. That's me. Read through the website. Here, have a link: http://justiceforjanedoe.com. That all happened to me. I'm not asking to be babied. Say what you want. Freedom of speech. Be who you are. But your lack of tact is really crappy.

What else do you expect me to do? From what I've heard, my case has a snowball's chance in hell of the DA taking it, because, in the detective's own words: "we hand him cases on a silver platter with a little bow and he still doesn't take them". If the DA does not take the case, it's over. The rapist doesn't go to jail, it doesn't go on his record. Nothing.

So one more petition isn't going to help? That website is not an organization. It's a means of awareness. And has been sent to hundreds, if not thousands of people already. More people are signing it everyday. If we can get more people to sign it, and more people to be aware, not only does this ass hole possibly get sent to prison, but people realize that it's not a bad thing to speak up, and fight for yourself.

I don't think that that's what he was trying to indicate...I'm certainly not a life coach or anything, but you'd probably get your message across better provided that you did not (intentionally or not) flame him.

:/

He did say that that petition wasn't going to help anything. I'm saying he's wrong.

And I didn't flame anyone.
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Postby Vitius » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:04 pm

Homosexy wrote:
Vitius wrote:I don't think that that's what he was trying to indicate...I'm certainly not a life coach or anything, but you'd probably get your message across better provided that you did not (intentionally or not) flame him.

:/

He did say that that petition wasn't going to help anything. I'm saying he's wrong.

And I didn't flame anyone.

Saying that you think he's an ass, replying from the chat thread and most likely not giving him notification of it so that he can provide a counter-argument would probably be at least mild flaming, though I suppose it's not my place to get involved.

That being said, Vitius awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
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