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by Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:43 pm
by Dog Bole » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:44 pm
Individuality-ness wrote:Individuality-ness wrote:Nathi, question: the original thread might have gone in the direction of discussing rape culture, which may not be appropriate for the in-general support thread. So would it be permissible if someone made an OP discussing rape culture as a whole?
(No, I don't know if I want to OP THAT thread. Still.)
Okay, I lied, I wrote up a theoretical OP on rape culture. Does anyone want me to put it up for debate, or should I hold off?
by Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:48 pm
by Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:48 pm
by Yaltabaoth » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:22 pm
Potenco wrote:I know this isnt something commonly discussed and the stereotype is that all rape is man on woman, but as a victim I feel like opening discussion.
One year ago I was out with a man whom I agreed to perform oral with and nothing more. However he pressured me and eventually forced me to anal with him on the floor of his basement. I mean its not like he had a gun or beat me or anything. I specificaally told him "no" but he did anyways and I was too scared of violence on his part
Following the act, the weirdest thing was my horrible self disgust, my depression and the disassociation I experienced with my body, like I was floating out of it. I have finally begun opening up to my closest friends about the experience and they are generally sympathetic, even though my *****y ex girlfriend didnt (haha)
Now this pertains to the struggle for women, because it was with this moment and the years of hearing borderline rapist-y statements of other men that I understood the extent of rape culture in this country. It isnt a solely white, straight male thing, it affects us all. There is no notion of consent amongst men and I now realize how terrifying the sexual world can be for women especially. If were ever going to try and mount political change, we need to eliminate the mentality of oppression, selfishness and rape if we think were going to effect any real political change.
Rape apologism has to stop too and is one of societies greatest crimes. the notion that if she/he doesent say "no" makes it not rape is a wrong one. Its the belief in rape apologism that had me convinced for 6 months that what happened was my fault and I fucked up.
Its time to have a cultural reversal of values, to create a society of friends in which we beleive in consent of the most genuine kind and in which people have true empathy.
by Potenco » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:57 pm
Yaltabaoth wrote:Potenco wrote:I know this isnt something commonly discussed and the stereotype is that all rape is man on woman, but as a victim I feel like opening discussion.
One year ago I was out with a man whom I agreed to perform oral with and nothing more. However he pressured me and eventually forced me to anal with him on the floor of his basement. I mean its not like he had a gun or beat me or anything. I specificaally told him "no" but he did anyways and I was too scared of violence on his part
Following the act, the weirdest thing was my horrible self disgust, my depression and the disassociation I experienced with my body, like I was floating out of it. I have finally begun opening up to my closest friends about the experience and they are generally sympathetic, even though my *****y ex girlfriend didnt (haha)
Now this pertains to the struggle for women, because it was with this moment and the years of hearing borderline rapist-y statements of other men that I understood the extent of rape culture in this country. It isnt a solely white, straight male thing, it affects us all. There is no notion of consent amongst men and I now realize how terrifying the sexual world can be for women especially. If were ever going to try and mount political change, we need to eliminate the mentality of oppression, selfishness and rape if we think were going to effect any real political change.
Rape apologism has to stop too and is one of societies greatest crimes. the notion that if she/he doesent say "no" makes it not rape is a wrong one. Its the belief in rape apologism that had me convinced for 6 months that what happened was my fault and I fucked up.
Its time to have a cultural reversal of values, to create a society of friends in which we beleive in consent of the most genuine kind and in which people have true empathy.
I'm truly sorry to hear that you had to experience that.
It absolutely was not your fault.
I think it takes a lot of courage to discuss something so personal, particularly in a public forum, and I applaud you.
As others here have said, you've nothing to apologise for, we're here to help if we can.
Unfortunately it's summer on NSG which means an increase in trolling. The Moderation team have been very supportive of this thread, don't hesitate to involve them if ugliness turns up.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:58 pm
Potenco wrote:Yaltabaoth wrote:
I'm truly sorry to hear that you had to experience that.
It absolutely was not your fault.
I think it takes a lot of courage to discuss something so personal, particularly in a public forum, and I applaud you.
As others here have said, you've nothing to apologise for, we're here to help if we can.
Unfortunately it's summer on NSG which means an increase in trolling. The Moderation team have been very supportive of this thread, don't hesitate to involve them if ugliness turns up.
Well thank you so much, its taken me like a year to come to terms with it all.
Has there ever been an asshole who tried to troll this thread?
by Tiltjuice » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:58 pm
Potenco wrote:Well thank you so much, its taken me like a year to come to terms with it all.
Has there ever been an asshole who tried to troll this thread?
by Reploid Productions » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:18 pm
Potenco wrote:Has there ever been an asshole who tried to troll this thread?
by Yaltabaoth » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:21 pm
Potenco wrote:Yaltabaoth wrote:
I'm truly sorry to hear that you had to experience that.
It absolutely was not your fault.
I think it takes a lot of courage to discuss something so personal, particularly in a public forum, and I applaud you.
As others here have said, you've nothing to apologise for, we're here to help if we can.
Unfortunately it's summer on NSG which means an increase in trolling. The Moderation team have been very supportive of this thread, don't hesitate to involve them if ugliness turns up.
Well thank you so much, its taken me like a year to come to terms with it all.
Has there ever been an asshole who tried to troll this thread?
by Shellinameow » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:26 pm
by Shellinameow » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:07 pm
by Corrian » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:20 pm
Shellinameow wrote:I've been listening to this over and over and crying for the past like 30 minutes.
This is... everything that I feel. All of the lyrics make complete sense.
by Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:07 pm
Potenco wrote:It isnt a solely white, straight male thing, it affects us all.
by Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:16 pm
Potenco wrote:Of course, I think one of the worst aspects of rape is the blaming oneself aspect. I hated myself for months on end being like "Look at yourself, you dont even enjoy sex and find it scary. You got yourself with that guy like a slut and you got what was coming to you" It was when I finally decided to truly look over the encounter that I realized that he went totally out of line and that even if I had consented to do some things with him, being forcibly sodomized is never justifiable (Im sorry I had to go into detail there)
by Galborg » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:57 pm
Shellinameow wrote:This is a story that I have never told
I gotta get this off my chest to let it go
I need to take back the light inside you stole
You're a criminal
And you steal like you're a pro
All the pain and the truth
I wear like a battle wound
So ashamed, so confused
I was broken and bruised
Now I'm a warrior
Now I've got thicker skin
I'm a warrior
I'm stronger than I've ever been
And my armor, is made of steel, you can't get in
I'm a warrior
And you can never hurt me again
Out of the ashes, I'm burning like a fire
You can save your apologies, you're nothing but a liar
I've got shame, I've got scars
That I will never show
I'm a survivor
In more ways than you know
Cause all the pain and the truth
I wear like a battle wound
So ashamed, so confused
I'm not broken or bruised
'Cause now I'm a warrior
Now I've got thicker skin
I'm a warrior
I'm stronger than I've ever been
And my armor, is made of steel, you can't get in
I'm a warrior
And you can never hurt me
There's a part of me I can't get back
A little girl grew up too fast
All it took was once, I'll never be the same
Now I'm taking back my life today
Nothing left that you can say
Cause you were never gonna take the blame anyway
Now I'm a warrior
I've got thicker skin
I'm a warrior
I'm stronger than I've ever been
And my armor, is made of steel, you can't get in
I'm a warrior
And you can never hurt me again
by Shellinameow » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:07 pm
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by Shellinameow » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:26 am
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by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:52 pm
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:52 pm
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Been on the current abortion thread...
Started having flashbacks and now I'm crying...
by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:53 pm
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:14 pm
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