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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:28 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:I heard a conversation that pissed me off so much today. While I was at a restaurant today there was a group sitting behind me. One of the people asked another person in the group if there were any funny rape stories from his job. I swear I almost wanted to yell at them. The person, who is apparently a lawyer, started talking about this case where he was the lawyer of the defendant.I couldn't hear the actual story, but this just really pissed me off.

:blink: Wow...


I really wanted to yell at them. I mean seriously, the idea of a funny rape story, WTF. And then to talk about it with people outside of that case...why the hell are you telling that sort of thing to people unrelated to the case.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:29 pm

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Rereumrari wrote:Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.


For fuck's sake.

I'm really sorry you need to deal with this shit on top of everything else, Condunum.


There's always going to be people like this. As long as we have this stupid culture in our society surrounding rape, there will always be people this insensitive.

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Neutraligon wrote:I heard a conversation that pissed me off so much today. While I was at a restaurant today there was a group sitting behind me. One of the people asked another person in the group if there were any funny rape stories from his job. I swear I almost wanted to yell at them. The person, who is apparently a lawyer, started talking about this case where he was the lawyer of the defendant.I couldn't hear the actual story, but this just really pissed me off.

:blink: Wow...

Oh, I've heard the same kind of thing in the town I live in. I threatened to stab someone for it once, and my friend pulled me away from the situation. Yay small town america.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:30 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :blink: Wow...

I really wanted to yell at them. I mean seriously, the idea of a funny rape story, WTF. And then to talk about it with people outside of that case...why the hell are you telling that sort of thing to people unrelated to the case.

That's... that's got to be a violation of the lawyer-client relationship. Unethical. Even beyond the fact that it's "funny rape stories". Just... my gods... humanity, why you shitting us?!
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Postby Tiltjuice » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:30 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:I really wanted to yell at them. I mean seriously, the idea of a funny rape story, WTF. And then to talk about it with people outside of that case...why the hell are you telling that sort of thing to people unrelated to the case.

That's... that's got to be a violation of the lawyer-client relationship. Unethical. Even beyond the fact that it's "funny rape stories". Just... my gods... humanity, why you shitting us?!


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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:31 pm

Condunum wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :blink: Wow...

Oh, I've heard the same kind of thing in the town I live in. I threatened to stab someone for it once, and my friend pulled me away from the situation. Yay small town america.

Yeah, that's just... gods, no. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:32 pm

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Condunum wrote:Oh, I've heard the same kind of thing in the town I live in. I threatened to stab someone for it once, and my friend pulled me away from the situation. Yay small town america.

Yeah, that's just... gods, no. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!

The same thing anyone thinks when they make rape jokes. "LOL RAPE IS FUNI"
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:32 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Condunum wrote:Oh, I've heard the same kind of thing in the town I live in. I threatened to stab someone for it once, and my friend pulled me away from the situation. Yay small town america.

Yeah, that's just... gods, no. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!


They weren't, that's the problem.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:33 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Yeah, that's just... gods, no. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!

They weren't, that's the problem.

That's just utter stupidity. Ugh.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:34 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:They weren't, that's the problem.

That's just utter stupidity. Ugh.


I don't know if you consider Salt Lake City small town USA, if you don't then this isn't a small town problem.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:36 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:That's just utter stupidity. Ugh.

I don't know if you consider Salt Lake City small town USA, if you don't then this isn't a small town problem.

Yeah, I don't see it as "small town USA". I have never heard of something similar myself, though.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:40 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I don't know if you consider Salt Lake City small town USA, if you don't then this isn't a small town problem.

Yeah, I don't see it as "small town USA". I have never heard of something similar myself, though.


Before that neither had I. I would think confidentiality would prevent that kind of thing, even if we weren't talking about rape. But to talk about funny rape stories...rape is never funny.
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:42 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Yeah, I don't see it as "small town USA". I have never heard of something similar myself, though.


Before that neither had I. I would think confidentiality would prevent that kind of thing, even if we weren't talking about rape. But to talk about funny rape stories...rape is never funny.


Talking about rape should be reserved for personal conversations, not for chats with friends over beers.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:
Before that neither had I. I would think confidentiality would prevent that kind of thing, even if we weren't talking about rape. But to talk about funny rape stories...rape is never funny.


Talking about rape should be reserved for personal conversations, not for chats with friends over beers.
And not in relations to a case a lawyer is currently working on, and especially not when dealing with "funny rape stories." Scuse me while I go off and scream for a while.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
While female on male rape is rarer, it is every bit as destructive. My condolences that you ended up having to go through this horrendous experience.
Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.

Did he want to? No.
Was he coerced? Yes.

It's rape.

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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:53 pm

Rereumrari wrote:Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.

I think you missed the thread you were aiming for, this in't one of the other debate threads, this is a designated safe space so people can talk about it without having to deal with that kind of doubts about their situation or personal attack. The Moderators are enforcing this. So perhaps you should leave the thread, now would be a good time.

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Condunum, it ain't worth it. It really isn't. I know it's upsetting, but it isn't worth getting a warning over.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:55 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Rereumrari wrote:Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.

I think you missed the thread you were aiming for, this in't one of the other debate threads, this is a designated safe space so people can talk about it without having to deal with that kind of doubts about their situation or personal attack. The Moderators are enforcing this. So perhaps you should leave the thread, now would be a good time.

Condunum wrote:Seriously? Fuck you.

Condunum, it ain't worth it. It really isn't. I know it's upsetting, but it isn't worth getting a warning over.

*sigh* You're right. Sorry.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:55 pm

Condunum wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Yeah, that's just... gods, no. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!

The same thing anyone thinks when they make rape jokes. "LOL RAPE IS FUNI"


Wasn't there a big discussion on these forums about Tosh's comment that "wouldn't it be funny if this heckler was gang-raped"?

IIRC, there was support on these very forums for the guy.



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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:56 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Condunum wrote:The same thing anyone thinks when they make rape jokes. "LOL RAPE IS FUNI"


Wasn't there a big discussion on these forums about Tosh's comment that "wouldn't it be funny if this heckler was gang-raped"?

IIRC, there was support on these very forums for the guy.


Yes, there was. And I feel especially shitty, because I was defending him.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:59 pm

Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.


Oh Condy, I am so sorry you had to go through this. :hug:

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Postby The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:26 am

Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.


I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to you. :(

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And i'm sorry to hear about what's happening to your friend -Maritimes, that shit would fucking piss me off too man.

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Postby Rereumrari » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:26 am

Katganistan wrote:
Rereumrari wrote:Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.

Did he want to? No.
Was he coerced? Yes.

It's rape.
He clearly said he was offered a choice between sex or leaving. Besides, f to m rape is not possible without outside tools. This can be logically proven too.

Imagine a man holding out a knife, arm stiff and straight out and he doesn't move at all. Then a woman rushes at the knife without warning and uses her body force to gain enough momentem to stab herself. Who is the stabber?
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:31 am

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Rereumrari wrote:Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.

I think you missed the thread you were aiming for, this in't one of the other debate threads, this is a designated safe space so people can talk about it without having to deal with that kind of doubts about their situation or personal attack. The Moderators are enforcing this. So perhaps you should leave the thread, now would be a good time.


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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:32 am

Rereumrari wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Did he want to? No.
Was he coerced? Yes.

It's rape.
He clearly said he was offered a choice between sex or leaving. Besides, f to m rape is not possible without outside tools. This can be logically proven too.

Imagine a man holding out a knife, arm stiff and straight out and he doesn't move at all. Then a woman rushes at the knife without warning and uses her body force to gain enough momentem to stab herself. Who is the stabber?

Your analogy falls apart at the fact that FBI definition of rape now does include f on m rape.

So. Stop tring to turn this into a fucking argument about what is rape or not. I was raped. If you're just going to be here to tell me I wasnt, stop being so fucking insensitive.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:35 am

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Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.


Oh Condy, I am so sorry you had to go through this. :hug:

Hang tough.

Thanks nana. You of all people know the things I've gone through so I suppose of anyone, your sympathies mean the most. It means much to me.

To everyone else I've failed to thank, thank you. The support does help a bit, but this is something that's going to take me a while.
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Postby Rereumrari » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:36 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:I think you missed the thread you were aiming for, this in't one of the other debate threads, this is a designated safe space so people can talk about it without having to deal with that kind of doubts about their situation or personal attack. The Moderators are enforcing this. So perhaps you should leave the thread, now would be a good time.


Reading really isn`t your strong suit, is it.
He wouldn't delete my post, so it made it pretty hard to not come back to this thread. If I get banned, at least my "view posts" section will be cleared and I won't see this thread there.
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