Rape Thread [SAFE SPACE - Mod Enforced]

[Individuality-ness]

Common sense cannot be shown, it is something that your mind should have automatically, unless you have aspergers or something. I'll try to explain my points in the thick head of yours as best as I can though, so watch closely.

If a woman, or girl who is not ugly wears something revealing, or somewhat attractive, a guy ( including my self) will find her attractive. If someone is attractive, you'd want to have sex with them.
Now a rapist is an insane and evil person, that cannot resist temptation, and will resort to violent methods of having sex with the girl. Furthermore, porn increases people's awareness of what sex is, and might increase their desire for it.

*smack* Not funny; I have Asperger's and I have common sense.

Rape is not about the sex itself. It's about the power that the rapist has over the victim. Clothing does not have anything to do with it; if someone seems weak to a potential rapist, he or she can and may be a target of rape.

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

How she is dressed does make a difference, furthermore, you never even addresses my comment about porn.
I know that I may sound insensitive, but let me get points across.

The image you showed me was unusual, I'm talking about MOST cases.

[Tlaceceyaya]

The image you showed me was unusual, I'm talking about MOST cases.

Prove that most women who get raped are dressed provocatively.

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

Common sense cannot be shown, it is something that your mind should have automatically, unless you have aspergers or something. I'll try to explain my points in the thick head of yours as best as I can though, so watch closely.

If a woman, or girl who is not ugly wears something revealing, or somewhat attractive, a guy ( including my self) will find her attractive. If someone is attractive, you'd want to have sex with them.
Now a rapist is an insane and evil person, that cannot resist temptation, and will resort to violent methods of having sex with the girl. Furthermore, porn increases people's awareness of what sex is, and might increase their desire for it.

*smack* Not funny; I have Asperger's and I have common sense.

Rape is not about the sex itself. It's about the power that the rapist has over the victim. Clothing does not have anything to do with it; if someone seems weak to a potential rapist, he or she can and may be a target of rape.

Back to what I said about the OP; she needs to carry a weapon.

[Individuality-ness]

*smack* Not funny; I have Asperger's and I have common sense.

Rape is not about the sex itself. It's about the power that the rapist has over the victim. Clothing does not have anything to do with it; if someone seems weak to a potential rapist, he or she can and may be a target of rape.

Back to what I said about the OP; she needs to carry a weapon.

Wouldn't a self-defense class be sufficient? I don't know if you're allowed to carry weapons on a college campus...

[Mushet]

*smack* Not funny; I have Asperger's and I have common sense.

Rape is not about the sex itself. It's about the power that the rapist has over the victim. Clothing does not have anything to do with it; if someone seems weak to a potential rapist, he or she can and may be a target of rape.

Back to what I said about the OP; she needs to carry a weapon.

Even a gun is not very effective against let's say 5 bigger even unarmed men surrounding you, it'll just make things worse

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

Back to what I said about the OP; she needs to carry a weapon.

Wouldn't a self-defense class be sufficient? I don't know if you're allowed to carry weapons on a college campus...

Well, America needs to loosen its laws on weapon carrying, but until then she better have a HIDDEN weapon.
Also, the OP is a girl, and we know that females do not have the physical strength that a man does, even with training MOST women will not be strong enough due to their lower levels of testosterone.

[AiliailiA]

Had some time waiting around and did some counting (this was a few hours ago, so it could be out of date). Thought that, with the oddity of perception of people on NS being what it is, it would be nice to actually count the various people saying various types of things. Percentage of posters who, in replying to this thread (out of n=122 as of my count, which may or may not have been completely accurate, and might double-count some puppeteers):

Blame Homosexy for being raped: 0%
Said they didn't believe Homosexy had been raped: 1%
Praised Homosexy for starting the thread: 7%
Engaged in "tough guy" talk: 3%
Responded by endorsing new / harsher punitive measures for actual / accused rapists: 19%
Said rape wasn't a real problem: 2%
Complained that trolls engaged in victim-blaming and saying rape wasn't important would clog up / were clogging up the thread: 13%
Offered condolences to Homosexy and/or rape victims in general: 37%
Said that they, too, have been the victim of rape / molestation /etc: 5%
Said they know someone else who has been a victim of rape / molestation / etc: 5%
Demonstrated ignorance by throwing out rape-related misinformation: 6%
None of the above: 35%

This was back on page 19. I haven't read the second half of the thread yet, btw.

[Individuality-ness]

Wouldn't a self-defense class be sufficient? I don't know if you're allowed to carry weapons on a college campus...

Well, America needs to loosen its laws on weapon carrying, but until then she better have a HIDDEN weapon.
Also, the OP is a girl, and we know that females do not have the physical strength that a man does, even with training MOST women will not be strong enough due to their lower levels of testosterone.

But until that time, she may not be able to legally have a weapon without violating her housing contract, assuming that she's dorming at the campus she's attending.

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

Back to what I said about the OP; she needs to carry a weapon.

Even a gun is not very effective against let's say 5 bigger even unarmed men surrounding you, it'll just make things worse

No, you are wrong a gun will kill them. Just shooting one of them should scare the rest away.

[JuNii]

The image you showed me was unusual, I'm talking about MOST cases.

please show me the statistics that back up your claim.

[The Reasonable]

THE WEBSITE AND PETITIONS ARE DONE AND OUT!

Hey guys. This has to do with my sexual assault. My wonderful mother made this website: http://justiceforjanedoe.com/ with what happened, more information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: Links to the petitions I'd love for all of you to sign. Please. Every time a petition gets signed, an email goes out to the Mayor and DA involved. Please please please go in and sign this and then spread it around. I don't care how you do it, just please get this out to as many people as possible.

EDIT: Also, if any of you want to put the links on your sig, on your facebook, twitter, whatever, feel free to. I really just want this website to get to as many people. For two reasons. One, It would be wonderful for everyone to sign the petition and for this guy to be brought to the justice he needs to be brought to. And two, probably the more important, SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It needs to be publicized, and people need to know. I can't tell you how many friends have come out to me as previous victims because I have come out to them. There would be so much more healing if we could just make this a big time issue. So please! Share the link to the website in any way you possibly can.

Signed proudly.

[Der Landstreicher]

The image you showed me was unusual, I'm talking about MOST cases.

please show me the statistics that back up your claim.

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

[Individuality-ness]

please show me the statistics that back up your claim.

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

Just because it's "common sense" doesn't mean that it's true. Source, please.

[Peddieville]

Common sense cannot be shown, it is something that your mind should have automatically, unless you have aspergers or something.

That's a great point you got there. If I don't agree with you I must "have aspergers or something."

If a woman, or girl who is not ugly wears something revealing, or somewhat attractive, a guy ( including my self) will find her attractive. If someone is attractive, you'd want to have sex with them.
Now a rapist is an insane and evil person, that cannot resist temptation, and will resort to violent methods of having sex with the girl.

Except that's generally not why people rape. It's an act of power, of control, not one of lust. In fact, most rapists can't even remember what their victim was wearing, and only 4.4% of all rapes involved "provocative behavior" on the part of the victim. Source

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

please show me the statistics that back up your claim.

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

Yes, you finally understand, Landstreicher.

[Souseiseki]

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

Yes, you finally understand, Landstreicher.

how do we define common sense

i mean, we could probably get a common consensus that you're completely wrong in this thread. will that become the immutable law of common sense then?

[Scomagia]

Carry a weapon, yes

However this whole "you were dressing like a slut that's why you got raped" is a load of nonsense.

How she is dressed does make a difference, furthermore, you never even addresses my comment about porn.
I know that I may sound insensitive, but let me get points across.

What the fuck is this bullshit...
Look, do your fuckin troll shit somewhere else. This is a serious topic man.

[Mushet]

Even a gun is not very effective against let's say 5 bigger even unarmed men surrounding you, it'll just make things worse

No, you are wrong a gun will kill them. Just shooting one of them should scare the rest away.

How about you try being in that situation and see how well that works out for you

There are 5 of them, they are bigger than you, you take that shit out they mob you, and you try shooting surrounded intimidated like that, life isn't grand theft auto

[Der Landstreicher]

Common sense cannot be shown, it is something that your mind should have automatically, unless you have aspergers or something. I'll try to explain my points in the thick head of yours as best as I can though, so watch closely.

If a woman, or girl who is not ugly wears something revealing, or somewhat attractive, a guy ( including my self) will find her attractive. If someone is attractive, you'd want to have sex with them.
Now a rapist is an insane and evil person, that cannot resist temptation, and will resort to violent methods of having sex with the girl. Furthermore, porn increases people's awareness of what sex is, and might increase their desire for it.

You're assuming whether one is attractive or not matters to a rapist, you really don't understand the psychological aspects of this at all.
The prime motivation for rapists is domination and rage, not sexual gratification or even sex with a sexually attractive male/female.

[Der Landstreicher]

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

Just because it's "common sense" doesn't mean that it's true. Source, please.

It's called sarcasm.
"Source, please."

[JuNii]

please show me the statistics that back up your claim.

He doesn't need statistics, this is "common sense"

which, has been proven... to not be 'common'.

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

Now, you people are missing the point. I'm not saying that it is her fault.
I am saying that she could've protected her self better.

[Scomagia]

Now, you people are missing the point. I'm not saying that it is her fault.
I am saying that she could've protected her self better.

And I'M saying take your shit somewhere else.

[Individuality-ness]

Just because it's "common sense" doesn't mean that it's true. Source, please.

It's called sarcasm.
"Source, please."

I apologize; I misread that.

Now, you people are missing the point. I'm not saying that it is her fault.
I am saying that she could've protected her self better.

You implied it by saying that she chose seductive clothing, which may not be the case here. I can't speak for her.