Girl refused school place because of pregnancy, being single

[Forsakia]

A 'catholic ethos' school rejects student who doesn't match up to a (strict) catholic ethos.

Does what it say on the tin?

[Laerod]

It's a private school.

Where'd you get that idea?

[Forster Keys]

Cool beans bro. I suppose one would have to examine their official criteria and guidelines.

Yeah, I mean I think that in general schools seem to be driven by arbitrary acceptance policies or those that favor the rich in order to make money...no one should be accepted or turned down on merely one aspect of their history or current situation.

It all boils down to what the role and responsibilities you think private schools should have I think.

[Forster Keys]

It's a private school.

Where'd you get that idea?

I thought it was a Catholic school?

[Nazis in Space]

Where'd you get that idea?

I thought it was a Catholic school? :?

What makes you think all catholic schools are private?

[Eviliatopia]

Where'd you get that idea?

Catholic schools, like basically any religious school, do not get Government funding, right?

[Forster Keys]

I thought it was a Catholic school?

What makes you think all catholic schools are private?

Conjecture from how they're run in Australia and other parts of the world. I'm not sure about the Irish situation.

[Tergnitz]

Where'd you get that idea?

I thought it was a Catholic school?

Religious schools are classified as 'independent schools'; which are private.

[Laerod]

Where'd you get that idea?

I thought it was a Catholic school? :?

In Ireland. Now the wiki entry on catholic schools in Ireland is riddled with "citations needed", but it appears that the school accepts public funding. We can't say for sure because it's only being referred to as School A, but this does not appear to be a private school.

[Laerod]

I thought it was a Catholic school? :?

Religious schools are classified as 'independent schools'; which are private.

Source please.

[Eviliatopia]

I thought it was a Catholic school?

Ireland has a national religion? I don't think so. The funds are probably private.

[Tergnitz]

Religious schools are classified as 'independent schools'; which are private.

Source please.

The Australian education system... Foster Keys will back my point up

On my phone so, I can't really trawl the Internet for sources.

[Forster Keys]

I thought it was a Catholic school?

In Ireland. Now the wiki entry on catholic schools in Ireland is riddled with "citations needed", but it appears that the school accepts public funding. We can't say for sure because it's only being referred to as School A, but this does not appear to be a private school.

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

[Nazis in Space]

What makes you think all catholic schools are private?

Conjecture from how they're run in Australia and other parts of the world. I'm not sure about the Irish situation.

While I'm not sure about the Irish situation either, in parts of Germany (Northrhine-Westphalia at the very least), denomination-based schools - chiefly catholic and protestant ones - are quite happily in existence.

State-run catholic schools are thus unquestionably possible.

[Forster Keys]

I thought it was a Catholic school?

Ireland has a national religion? I don't think so. The funds are probably private.

I don't think Ireland has a national religion, been a while since I last researched it.

[Forster Keys]

Source please.

The Australian education system... Foster Keys will back my point up

On my phone so, I can't really trawl the Internet for sources.

Yeah, that's pretty much how we run things in Oz.

[Nazis in Space]

In Ireland. Now the wiki entry on catholic schools in Ireland is riddled with "citations needed", but it appears that the school accepts public funding. We can't say for sure because it's only being referred to as School A, but this does not appear to be a private school.

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

Which happily removes the 'It's their own money, they can do whatever they want' argument, doesn't it?

And that's assuming that such an argument has merit, which in the case of educational institutions covering children, it frankly doesn't.

[Laerod]

Source please.

The Australian education system... Foster Keys will back my point up

On my phone so, I can't really trawl the Internet for sources.

In Ireland. Now the wiki entry on catholic schools in Ireland is riddled with "citations needed", but it appears that the school accepts public funding. We can't say for sure because it's only being referred to as School A, but this does not appear to be a private school.

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

None of this is relevant to Ireland.

[Forster Keys]

Conjecture from how they're run in Australia and other parts of the world. I'm not sure about the Irish situation.

While I'm not sure about the Irish situation either, in parts of Germany (Northrhine-Westphalia at the very least), denomination-based schools - chiefly catholic and protestant ones - are quite happily in existence.

State-run catholic schools are thus unquestionably possible.

Are these denominational schools run and funded by the government?

[Forster Keys]

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

Which happily removes the 'It's their own money, they can do whatever they want' argument, doesn't it?

And that's assuming that such an argument has merit, which in the case of educational institutions covering children, it frankly doesn't.

Hey, I agree. Private schools here get more federal funding that state schools. I find it ridiculous.

[Strathy]

I have to agree with this decision. If she is pregnant, then she is likely to have to miss a reasonable portion of the term taking her maternity leave time. On the single parent side, if she hasn't got the means to obtain proper child care, then she'll either have to bring her child to school or stay at home with it.

Both counts are going to result in her missing large portions of the school year and being unable to fully benefit from the school's eductaion curriculum. This is incredibly unfair on someone who needs the place and could garuntee being in school for the entire year -excepting normal absences.

The only point at which I could see a school rightfully giving this woman the place would be if she was a non-pregnant signle parent with adequate access to child care, therefore enabling her to be at school as much as any other student.

[Forster Keys]

The Australian education system... Foster Keys will back my point up

On my phone so, I can't really trawl the Internet for sources.

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

None of this is relevant to Ireland.

Pfft. Australia was partially founded by Irish immigrants. There's a tenuous connections somewhere.

[Nazis in Space]

While I'm not sure about the Irish situation either, in parts of Germany (Northrhine-Westphalia at the very least), state-run, denomination-based schools - chiefly catholic and protestant ones - are quite happily in existence.

State-run catholic schools are thus unquestionably possible.

Are these denominational schools run and funded by the government?

Sorry, the word 'State' must've slipped away as I intended to type it. Fixed.

[AiliailiA]

It's a private school. The owners have the right to deny any student for whatever reason they please. No matter how bigoted, stupid and unfair said reason may be.

They should engrave that in brass over the front gate of every private school.

And over the gate of every public school it should say "The owners of this school have no right to deny you education. This Public School fulfills the ideal of Universal Education, even for assholes who don't appreciate it"

[Tergnitz]

Not necessarily. Australia's private schools accept public funding as well. They're privately run, just like some corporations receive government funds but aren't nationalised.

Which happily removes the 'It's their own money, they can do whatever they want' argument, doesn't it?

And that's assuming that such an argument has merit, which in the case of educational institutions covering children, it frankly doesn't.

Hardly; as the majority of their income still comes from private sources. Govt funding is typically given to private schools to lower the cost of school fees; allowing students from lower socio-economic backgrounds to receive a better education in the private sector.

Everyone deserves an education; but that why the state provides it universally. This girl could go to a state school or even to a non-religious private school; it's not like this is her only option.