Polygraph

[Greed and Death]

"Due to need of money...?"
If that's the reason you want to be in law enforcement, I STRONGLY suggest you look elsewhere. It's a job for dedicated individuals who are willing to do things "normal" people would never do and involves a high degree of moral and ethical conduct. Namely, integrity.

I'm not saying you need to be perfect, you just need to be able to stand up and tell the truth about it. Most departments have a policy to 'forgive and forget' past events over a certain time period (five years usually)

As for fooling a polygraph, you shouldn't need to. They ask you the questions for a reason. It's to see if you're lying or not, if you can tell the truth, if you have integrity. All the departments in my area use it, and I've done it. It's not difficult if you just tell the truth.

that's nice.

[Verlorenen]

that's nice.

I was trying to help you out - I have extensive law enforcement experience. Thought you might wanna know. But whatever.

[Sarkhaan]

Hey how easy is it to beat a polygraph?
Just curious as Due to need of money I find myself steered to law enforcement, and I may need to gloss over a few things in my past.

Just prey they don't look at NSG

I mask my IP.

So you're looking at the FBI and Secret Service (only one of which is law enforcement, by the way), and think they can't figure out their IP if they want to?

they would if they were watching it right now.

The secret service is law enforcement.
They handle currency counterfeiting.

Ergo, guess which one I meant isn't law enforcement.

[Smunkeeville]

Polygraphs are quite easy to fool. I've done it twice.

so calm down and gloss over things gotcha.

believe the lie.

besides if you didn't get convicted it didn't happen.
^repeat this lie to yourself over and over and over until you believe it.

look into biorhythm control, should help.

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

As far as I can gather, they're better off asking their astronomer about you.

Astrologer. Unless you know something about astronomers in the FBI all being huge gossips.

I seem to remember hearing something about putting a stone in your shoe to fool a polygraph. I have no idea how that is supposed to work, but it sounds like exactly the sort of half-assed scheme a Generalite would try.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Clench your anal sphincter on test questions. It simulates the physical responses to fear that the polygraph measures.

Watch the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode on the "Lie Detector" issue.

[Greed and Death]

Hey how easy is it to beat a polygraph?
Just curious as Due to need of money I find myself steered to law enforcement, and I may need to gloss over a few things in my past.

Just prey they don't look at NSG

I mask my IP.

So you're looking at the FBI and Secret Service (only one of which is law enforcement, by the way), and think they can't figure out their IP if they want to?

they would if they were watching it right now.

The secret service is law enforcement.
They handle currency counterfeiting.

Ergo, guess which one I meant isn't law enforcement.

The federal Bureau of investigation isn't law enforcement ??
There website says they enforce federal laws, doesn't that make them law enforcement ?

[Greed and Death]

As far as I can gather, they're better off asking their astronomer about you.

Astrologer. Unless you know something about astronomers in the FBI all being huge gossips.

I seem to remember hearing something about putting a stone in your shoe to fool a polygraph. I have no idea how that is supposed to work, but it sounds like exactly the sort of half-assed scheme a Generalite would try.

it is a tack or sharp stone then you jab your toe on it during the test questions.
This throws off your base line readings so your lies look like the truth.

[Hydesland]

Yes. What I am saying is that law enforcement has a pretty decent idea that it isn't accurate enough to use to determine guilt or innocense. Also, I have never heard of anyone using a polygraph test as a hiring criteria, let alone a police department.

It is accurate around 99% of the time I think, it's just that the 1% would still be a considerably and unacceptably large number of innocents going to jail.

[Greed and Death]

Yes. What I am saying is that law enforcement has a pretty decent idea that it isn't accurate enough to use to determine guilt or innocense. Also, I have never heard of anyone using a polygraph test as a hiring criteria, let alone a police department.

It is accurate around 99% of the time I think, it's just that the 1% would still be a considerably and unacceptably large number of innocents going to jail.

Considering aldrich ames passed it twice while spying for the soviets I can't say it is 99% accurate.

[Eugene Zolo]

Clench your anal sphincter on test questions. It simulates the physical responses to fear that the polygraph measures.

Watch the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode on the "Lie Detector" issue.

Damn, you beat me to it.

[Kagetora]

Yes. What I am saying is that law enforcement has a pretty decent idea that it isn't accurate enough to use to determine guilt or innocense. Also, I have never heard of anyone using a polygraph test as a hiring criteria, let alone a police department.

It is accurate around 99% of the time I think, it's just that the 1% would still be a considerably and unacceptably large number of innocents going to jail.

Considering aldrich ames passed it twice while spying for the soviets I can't say it is 99% accurate.

If History Channel is to be believed, taking a polygraph test is a little more accurate than a coin flip.

[Hayteria]

Yes. What I am saying is that law enforcement has a pretty decent idea that it isn't accurate enough to use to determine guilt or innocense. Also, I have never heard of anyone using a polygraph test as a hiring criteria, let alone a police department.

It is accurate around 99% of the time I think, it's just that the 1% would still be a considerably and unacceptably large number of innocents going to jail.

Based on what?

[Hydesland]

Considering aldrich ames passed it twice while spying for the soviets I can't say it is 99% accurate.

Well Aldrich would have been trained to not be detected by it, but most people aren't, hence the 99%.

[Hydesland]

Based on what?

Alright, reading into it further, it seems that the number is lower than that. You win.

[Hayteria]

Based on what?

Alright, reading into it further, it seems that the number is lower than that. You win.

I wasn't trying to "win" but to ask what you were basing it on in the first place. o.o

[SouthRiver]

If you want to become LE because of money you need to get the hell away from that career. Its one for dedicated individuals that love to help people... its not a 9-5 job either... 12 hour shifts and you ALWAYS bring you work home with you... you can see dead bodies and have to shoot/put down animals... think about it..

I suggest you go to the forum Officer.com and tell them why you want to be LE because of money, they would CHEW your ass up.

[SouthRiver]

btw guys... ALL LE agencies use the polygraph... you can't fool it and if you try to fool it and you lie... you will never be allowed into LE ever again in your life.

[Greed and Death]

If you want to become LE because of money you need to get the hell away from that career. Its one for dedicated individuals that love to help people... its not a 9-5 job either... 12 hour shifts and you ALWAYS bring you work home with you... you can see dead bodies and have to shoot/put down animals... think about it..

I suggest you go to the forum Officer.com and tell them why you want to be LE because of money, they would CHEW your ass up.

Sounds a lot like the army.

[Czardas]

Hey how easy is it to beat a polygraph?
Just curious as Due to need of money I find myself steered to law enforcement, and I may need to gloss over a few things in my past.

Just prey they don't look at NSG

We're looking at it already...

[Hydesland]

Based on what?

Alright, reading into it further, it seems that the number is lower than that. You win.

I wasn't trying to "win" but to ask what you were basing it on in the first place. o.o

Eh I thought I remember reading it somewhere (can't quite recall where), I guess I either read/recall wrong or what I read was wrong.

[Greed and Death]

Based on what?

Alright, reading into it further, it seems that the number is lower than that. You win.

I wasn't trying to "win" but to ask what you were basing it on in the first place. o.o

Eh I thought I remember reading it somewhere (can't quite recall where), I guess I either read/recall wrong or what I read was wrong.

The polygraph tester quarterly.

[Tubbsalot]

You guys still use the lie detector? Crazy motherfuckers. I thought that thing got thrown out as useless even back in the 70's.

[Hydesland]

You guys still use the lie detector? Crazy motherfuckers. I thought that thing got thrown out as useless even back in the 70's.

In the UK it is used in serious and rigorous domestic research broadcasts such as the Jeremy Kyle show.

[Hayteria]

btw guys... ALL LE agencies use the polygraph... you can't fool it and if you try to fool it and you lie... you will never be allowed into LE ever again in your life.

This alone suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about.