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Death is just an ending, thoughts of an afterlife are just a reassuring...if not vain..attempt at going unto blackness with some dignity.
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Death is an ending, but I do not presume what or if anything exists after it.
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Death is both an ending and a begining, your old life is over and another begins, what that life might be, I do not know.
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Death is both an ending and a begining, I await my new life with hope and happyness, for I know whats on the other side.
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Shut up you morose bastard!
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Yootopia
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Postby Yootopia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:51 pm

Call to power wrote:
Yootopia wrote:Hmm I slightly worry about death, because I don't really do enough in the day to not think about such things from time to time.


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Rhodmhire
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:52 pm

Pain.

Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.

Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?

It was something along the lines of that, I believe.

Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.

I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.

Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.

So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.
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Bowegia
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Postby Bowegia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:53 pm

I don't really know or care if there is an "afterlife" of some kind or not, I'll find out soon enough. What I do know however is that humanity doesn't have the cognition or intelligence to stake claims as to what it might be, they bicker about it like children and over what? Mostly superficial BS.

The universe is 13 billion years old and so are we all. The particles that make up our bodies were there, in some form or another, at the Big Bang. I find some bit of comfort knowing that they'll be there long after I die, helping to carry the Universe on in some sort of evolution. And that's about as "spiritual" as I get.

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Postby Kobrania » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:54 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.

Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.

Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?

It was something along the lines of that, I believe.

Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.

I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.

Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.

So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.

The one thing I'll grant to the christian religion is that it is highly tempting to sado-masocists
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Minnas
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Postby Minnas » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:58 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Call to power wrote:
Yootopia wrote:Hmm I slightly worry about death, because I don't really do enough in the day to not think about such things from time to time.


this man needs more porn

Wanking 3 times a day is not very intellectually stimulating.


But it surely helps.
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Muravyets
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Postby Muravyets » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:00 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.

I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.

Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much. ;)

In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.

I think it's that people just haven't thought about it enough, or are afraid to think about it. I get pretty taken aback by some of the really vehement fear I see from people when the subject of death comes up.

I read somewhere that the old samurai would start out each day by meditating upon their own death, visualizing themselves dying as vividly as they could, to overcome their fear of it. I tried doing that. It was great. I recommend it to everyone.

You can start with what I mentioned earlier -- you are already meat. Just meat that's still moving. Fresh. Warm. Now imagine yourself alone in the woods with a mountain lion...
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:01 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.

Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.

Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?

It was something along the lines of that, I believe.

Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.

I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.

Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.

So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.

you feel more pain from things that you are going to survive than you do from things that are sure to kill you.
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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:01 pm

Kobrania wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.

Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.

Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?

It was something along the lines of that, I believe.

Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.

I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.

Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.

So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.

The one thing I'll grant to the christian religion is that it is highly tempting to sado-masocists

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NERVUN
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:16 pm

Muravyets wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.

I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.

Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much. ;)

In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.

I think it's that people just haven't thought about it enough, or are afraid to think about it. I get pretty taken aback by some of the really vehement fear I see from people when the subject of death comes up.

I read somewhere that the old samurai would start out each day by meditating upon their own death, visualizing themselves dying as vividly as they could, to overcome their fear of it. I tried doing that. It was great. I recommend it to everyone.

That's a much better way of looking at it, IMO. I've always felt that you don't have to be scared of death, but neither can you be dismissive of it.

You can start with what I mentioned earlier -- you are already meat. Just meat that's still moving. Fresh. Warm. Now imagine yourself alone in the woods with a mountain lion...

Hmm... No good. Know too much about mountain lions and how not to get looked at as cat food. :p
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Muravyets
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Postby Muravyets » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:17 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.

I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.

Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much. ;)

In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.

I think it's that people just haven't thought about it enough, or are afraid to think about it. I get pretty taken aback by some of the really vehement fear I see from people when the subject of death comes up.

I read somewhere that the old samurai would start out each day by meditating upon their own death, visualizing themselves dying as vividly as they could, to overcome their fear of it. I tried doing that. It was great. I recommend it to everyone.

That's a much better way of looking at it, IMO. I've always felt that you don't have to be scared of death, but neither can you be dismissive of it.

You can start with what I mentioned earlier -- you are already meat. Just meat that's still moving. Fresh. Warm. Now imagine yourself alone in the woods with a mountain lion...

Hmm... No good. Know too much about mountain lions and how not to get looked at as cat food. :p

Just replace "mountain lion" with "hill-billy running meth lab in the mountains" then.
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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:21 pm

Hm, I would hope that there is some form of afterlife, however, in reality, there is no one here who can definitively say there is or isn't an afterlife, god or any of the associated thereof.
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