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by Rhodmhire » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:52 pm

by Bowegia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:53 pm

by Kobrania » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:54 pm
Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.
Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.
Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?
It was something along the lines of that, I believe.
Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.
I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.
Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.
So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.

by Muravyets » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:00 pm
NERVUN wrote:Muravyets wrote:NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.
I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.
Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much.![]()
In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.

by Ashmoria » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:01 pm
Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.
Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.
Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?
It was something along the lines of that, I believe.
Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.
I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.
Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.
So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.

by Dyakovo » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:01 pm
Kobrania wrote:Rhodmhire wrote:Pain.
Pain is what there is to fear, I once thought the best way to go down was to get your head chopped off--I thought it would be the quickest and least painful.
Then I heard you actually feel pain for, what, ten or fifteen seconds prior to getting your head dislocated from the remainder of your body?
It was something along the lines of that, I believe.
Normally ten or fifteen seconds doesn't seem like much, but even five seconds of such pain must just be unimaginable.
I can't imagine it, and I fear it greatly, and I believe it's present in almost all forms of death--even if it's merely a second, or a fraction of a second.
Being a Christian, I do believe in the afterlife, I don't go about making up predictions of what it will be like, I believe it's a concept that, like peace, differs from person to person--mildly or greatly.
So in the end, it's all about pain. Death is simply the end of it all, after to the great agony prior to it.
The one thing I'll grant to the christian religion is that it is highly tempting to sado-masocists

by NERVUN » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:16 pm
Muravyets wrote:NERVUN wrote:Muravyets wrote:NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.
I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.
Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much.![]()
In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.
I think it's that people just haven't thought about it enough, or are afraid to think about it. I get pretty taken aback by some of the really vehement fear I see from people when the subject of death comes up.
I read somewhere that the old samurai would start out each day by meditating upon their own death, visualizing themselves dying as vividly as they could, to overcome their fear of it. I tried doing that. It was great. I recommend it to everyone.
You can start with what I mentioned earlier -- you are already meat. Just meat that's still moving. Fresh. Warm. Now imagine yourself alone in the woods with a mountain lion...


by Muravyets » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:17 pm
NERVUN wrote:Muravyets wrote:NERVUN wrote:Muravyets wrote:NERVUN wrote:Death is just a part of life (Though I admit I am rather amused by the replies so far and really wonder, should I hold a gun to your head, would everyone still remain so prozaic and claim they care not about death). As for what happens afterwards, I have my own beliefs, but it is the undiscovered country after all and none of us will find out until it is too late to come back and tell the rest.
I think there is a difference between caring about death as a general proposition and caring about some crazed net-loon holding a gun to one's head and threatening to pull the trigger.
Hey! Who are you calling a net-loon! I'm a card carrying crazy thank you very much.![]()
In any case though, it's not so much being afraid of death, but the idea of you're alive, then you're meat that I have an issue with and wonder just how much of that is an affected 'tude or just because someone hasn't really either thought about death or confronted death. Death does have meaning after all and all things strive to live.
I think it's that people just haven't thought about it enough, or are afraid to think about it. I get pretty taken aback by some of the really vehement fear I see from people when the subject of death comes up.
I read somewhere that the old samurai would start out each day by meditating upon their own death, visualizing themselves dying as vividly as they could, to overcome their fear of it. I tried doing that. It was great. I recommend it to everyone.
That's a much better way of looking at it, IMO. I've always felt that you don't have to be scared of death, but neither can you be dismissive of it.You can start with what I mentioned earlier -- you are already meat. Just meat that's still moving. Fresh. Warm. Now imagine yourself alone in the woods with a mountain lion...
Hmm... No good. Know too much about mountain lions and how not to get looked at as cat food.

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