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Good... or Evil?

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Are you good or evil?

Good.
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Evil.
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16%
I am something else... these categories don't fit.
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16%
There's no such thing as good or evil, objectively.
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Stop worrying, Galloism. He'll stop bleeding eventually.
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Galloism
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Good... or Evil?

Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:44 pm

The question is, quite simply, are you good?
Image
or evil?
Image

How do you know? On what basis do you judge your relative good or evil self? Do actions matter? Do intentions? Do they both matter? Can you change your status from one to the other? How long does it take? How much does it take?

I don't know. I'm just asking.
Last edited by Galloism on Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Have a Fun Day
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Postby Have a Fun Day » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:48 pm

Actions and intentions totlaly matter!!!!!!!!!!!

a lot of BAD STUFF happens to people because someone was a real jerk and didn't care what they did and who they hurt and confsume when they do it and so we have starving people all ove rthe world and people getting raped and murdered and killed over stupid stuff like religion and wars becuse of acrtions and intentions so OF COURSE THEY MATTER what are you talking about!!!
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Cosmopoles
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Postby Cosmopoles » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:50 pm

I'd be more likely to believe in the existence of evil if more people actually self identified as such.

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Dolbri
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Postby Dolbri » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:51 pm

There's no such thing as good or evil, objectively.

That being said, I do have a personal set of moral guidelines and I get very angry with myself if I don't follow them. Maybe that's enough to classify me as good? There's not much chance that I'd change a lot, anyway. People don't change easily.

And don't worry, he will stop bleeding, eventually.
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:51 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:I'd be more likely to believe in the existence of evil if more people actually self identified as such.


I think I might be evil. However, I will withhold judgment and let NSG judge me.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Yootopia
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Postby Yootopia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:52 pm

"Good", thus evil on the quiet, like all British men.
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Cameroi
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:53 pm

there is no such thing as BEING either.

there is only DOING more of the one or of the other.

and as to that, my priority is always to avoid causing suffering and harm.
however little positive i am also able to contribute, the avoidance of causing suffering, and the minimizing of causing real harm, enable retaining possession of a clear conscience, which no amount of other so called gain, can compensate for the loss of.
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Maurepas
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:54 pm

Which one'll get me laid? :p


Well, now I sound evil, I think, lol...

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Maurepas
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:I'd be more likely to believe in the existence of evil if more people actually self identified as such.


I think I might be evil. However, I will withhold judgment and let NSG judge me.

Youre the worst of them all, the neutrals...With good or evil you know hwere they stand...

You neutrals though, You.just.dont.know! :p

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Call to power
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Postby Call to power » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:58 pm

whats the one without the image that makes me want to scoop out my eyes?

I've always considered myself the better of two evils perhaps someone you can trust to watch a baby but less so to watch a lemon meringue
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:58 pm

I'm both.
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:58 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:I'd be more likely to believe in the existence of evil if more people actually self identified as such.


I think I might be evil. However, I will withhold judgment and let NSG judge me.

Youre the worst of them all, the neutrals...With good or evil you know hwere they stand...

You neutrals though, You.just.dont.know! :p


Well, see, with me, it's decidedly a mixed bag.

If a person does the worst of things with the best of intentions, is he evil?

What about if he does things with the worst of intentions and they turn out good at the end?
Last edited by Galloism on Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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JuNii
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Postby JuNii » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:59 pm

Galloism wrote:The question is, quite simply, are you good?
Image
or evil?
Image

How do you know? On what basis do you judge your relative good or evil self? Do actions matter? Do intentions? Do they both matter? Can you change your status from one to the other? How long does it take? How much does it take?

I don't know. I'm just asking.


me? I consider myself Chaotic Good.
on the other hand... I have another set of fingers.

Unscramble these words...1) PNEIS. 2)HTIELR 3) NGGERI 4) BUTTSXE
1) SPINE. 2) LITHER 3)GINGER 4)SUBTEXT

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Fartsniffage
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:00 pm

Selfish, egotistical, convinced of my own superiority, care more about my own happiness than the feelings of others.

Able to hide all of the above behind a veneer of likabilty.

I'd say I was evil.

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Rhodmhire
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:02 pm

I've been called the evil-doer of my generation, by those who have felt my wrath.
Part of me grew up here. But part of growing up is leaving parts of ourselves behind.

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Aelosia
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Postby Aelosia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:06 pm

I was tempted to say evil just because I liked the evil image
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Maurepas
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:08 pm

Galloism wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:I'd be more likely to believe in the existence of evil if more people actually self identified as such.


I think I might be evil. However, I will withhold judgment and let NSG judge me.

Youre the worst of them all, the neutrals...With good or evil you know hwere they stand...

You neutrals though, You.just.dont.know! :p


Well, see, with me, it's decidedly a mixed bag.

If a person does the worst of things with the best of intentions, is he evil?

What about if he does things with the worst of intentions and they turn out good at the end?

What if he does something ultimately good in the end, but uses the most underhanded techniques and tactics to accomplish it?


Id say in A) he obviously did evil things...B) Had intended to be evil, but without knowledge of what he did, I cant say whether he/she was evil or not...and C) although it turned out good in the end, the person still used evil tactics to get there...

I would agree with the statement that its what you do that defines it, not who you are...

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Treznor
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Postby Treznor » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:08 pm

Long ago I realized that it takes a truly evil man to properly please a woman. I've since aspired to become as evil a man as ever lived.

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Rhodmhire
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:09 pm

Aelosia wrote:I was tempted to say evil just because I liked the evil image


Cool images, cookies, free anal s--er--membership.

What's not to love about the evil side?
Part of me grew up here. But part of growing up is leaving parts of ourselves behind.

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Aelosia
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Postby Aelosia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:10 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Aelosia wrote:I was tempted to say evil just because I liked the evil image


Cool images, cookies, free anal s--er--membership.

What's not to love about the evil side?


Horns, too pointy.

Treznor wrote:Long ago I realized that it takes a truly evil man to properly please a woman. I've since aspired to become as evil a man as ever lived.


Earning points... I also think it takes a truly evil woman to avoid being satisfied by an evil man. Only way to trick and tease one of those.
My ratings in the top 100:
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Lowest Unemployment Rates
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Lowest Unemployment Rates
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Largest Defense Forces
Aelosia is ranked 13th in the world for Most Scientifically Advanced
Aelosia is ranked 20th in the world for Most Cultured
Aelosia is ranked 24th in the world for Most Subsidized Industry
Aelosia is ranked 25th in the world for Fastest-Growing Economies
Aelosia is ranked 38th in the world for Largest Public Transport Department
Aelosia is ranked 42th in the world for Largest Publishing Industry
Aelosia is ranked 51th in the world for Largest Information Technology Sector
Aelosia is ranked 61th in the world for Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector

Factbook so far.

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Maurepas
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:10 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Aelosia wrote:I was tempted to say evil just because I liked the evil image


Cool images, cookies, free anal s--er--membership.

What's not to love about the evil side?

Well, I think its a tough call actually...the "good" girl in the pic is more attractive, imo...however, Im more likely to be able to sex the evil one...

tough call, :lol2:

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Kobrania
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Postby Kobrania » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:10 pm

I don't belive in absolute good or evil, as most people, even most 'gods', commit both in their life times.
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Postby Tunizcha » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:12 pm

Isn't the quote: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:12 pm

Kobrania wrote:I don't belive in absolute good or evil, as most people, even most 'gods', commit both in their life times.


It's just that there are no absolutes where it comes to being good or bad. The potential for both is in all of us and we all have, at one point of another, done something bad and something good.
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Postby JuNii » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:12 pm

Aelosia wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Aelosia wrote:I was tempted to say evil just because I liked the evil image


Cool images, cookies, free anal s--er--membership.

What's not to love about the evil side?


Horns, too pointy.
you no likey horny people?
on the other hand... I have another set of fingers.

Unscramble these words...1) PNEIS. 2)HTIELR 3) NGGERI 4) BUTTSXE
1) SPINE. 2) LITHER 3)GINGER 4)SUBTEXT

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