Countries/regions you think should be independent?

[Republica Federal de Catalunya]

In an ideal world, Galicia, Catalunya and Euskal Herria would be independent. The reality, though, is far more complicated.

And this is coming from an Asturian who would gladly see those regions go free.

A mina pregunta sempre foi: e posible que esas rexions, sendo independente, pode sobrevivir so sen a axuda do resto de Espana? Hai momentos nos que vexo o nacionalismo de benvida. Outras veces, a division que creou me parece negativa.

Pidolle que perdoe a mina galega, xa que non e a mellor debido a falta de practica.

Non pasa nada, chéame de ledicia ver a xente de fora de Galiza que sabe galego. Pois ben, e por que non íamos sobrevivir ser Espanha? Se é por recursos, suponse que Espanha tampoco poudería. Por poder pódese.

A todo isto, oín falar de que en Asturies tedes os vosos propios idiomas (Eonaviego e Bable creo lembrar).

I think mariano Rajoy although being galician doesn't speak a word. Well at least being Galician is not a problem to be spanish Premier. I remember the problems Carmen Chacón had when tried to lead socialist party and how she had to hid her origin.

I think more in Catalonia and Basque country to be independent in a Short future than Galicia or other spanish regions like Valencia, Balearics or Navarra.
Mostly because. Both regions and differently from the others. Have their own political parties that rule and don't have allegiancies to parties in Madrid. Catalonia: CiU, ERC and ICV and Basque PNV, EA, AMAIUR.
Even in Spanish elections Catalan Nationalist party CiU won in Catalonia and in the Basque Country, AMAIUR.
Also in those territories if spanish goverment tries to seize home goverments it will face strong oposition. Think that didn't happen in Valencia when it was seized.

[Shofercia]

I'm just curious - how's austerity influencing Catalonia's independence movement? Is it helping the independence movement a lot, of some help but not much, or is actually hurting the independence movement?

[Spiral Sun]

I am rather partial to Somaliland, Taiwan, and the Ryukyus myself.

[Spiral Sun]

I'm just curious - how's austerity influencing Catalonia's independence movement? Is it helping the independence movement a lot, of some help but not much, or is actually hurting the independence movement?

Also, are we saying just the region of Catolinia or would it also include the other former Aragonese lands, which seem to prefer having Hispanicism as their unifying light rather than Barcelona?

[Orlkjestad]

South Ossetia
Abkhazia
Kosovo
Palestine
Western Sahara
Tibet
Kashmir
Conch Republic (ALL HAIL.)

[Jothar]

The Punjab regions of India and Pakistan (AKA: Punjab or Khalistan).

[Shofercia]

I'm just curious - how's austerity influencing Catalonia's independence movement? Is it helping the independence movement a lot, of some help but not much, or is actually hurting the independence movement?

Also, are we saying just the region of Catolinia or would it also include the other former Aragonese lands, which seem to prefer having Hispanicism as their unifying light rather than Barcelona?

Both. It sounds like an interesting discussion, so I'm up for both

[Medok]

Im surprised nobody seems to have mentioned Nigeria.

Specifically, splitting it into North and South. What with the rise of Islamic extremists bombing the hell out of Christians throughout the country in an attempt force Sharia Law.

Perhaps if they were divided, the Muslims could stay in the North and Christians and all other religious minorities in the South.

Or Christian Extremists bombing the hell out of Muslims in order to force a Christian Theocracy.

[Anthoraubia]

Just the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic.

[Spiral Sun]

Im surprised nobody seems to have mentioned Nigeria.

Specifically, splitting it into North and South. What with the rise of Islamic extremists bombing the hell out of Christians throughout the country in an attempt force Sharia Law.

Perhaps if they were divided, the Muslims could stay in the North and Christians and all other religious minorities in the South.

Or Christian Extremists bombing the hell out of Muslims in order to force a Christian Theocracy.

This some sort of Russian reversal?

[Ottoman Democratic Turkey]

Claimed by Cyprus:
Northern Cyprus

So you suport the illegal invasion of Turkey and the use of violence to divide cyprus? Also the largest part of Cyprus is Greek. I dont see why Cyprus must accept as an indepedent state, an occupied region that is controled by Turkey. Also most of the Turks in the occupied part of Cyprus are people who were moved by the Turkish government in Cyprus in order to create a larger Turkish population.

[Kemaliste]

Claimed by Cyprus:
Northern Cyprus

So you suport the illegal invasion of Turkey and the use of violence to divide cyprus? Also the largest part of Cyprus is Greek. I dont see why Cyprus must accept as an indepedent state, an occupied region that is controled by Turkey. Also most of the Turks in the occupied part of Cyprus are people who were moved by the Turkish government in Cyprus in order to create a larger Turkish population.

So, the largest part of Anatolia is also Turkish, but what about those people saying that Kurds should separate from Turkey ? typical western hypocrisy. They support the nations opposed to Turks but they ignore the self-determination rights of Turks in Cyprus. It's normal, Greeks are christian so of course they should back them. Who cares about atrocities and genocide attempts during 1950s-60s, which led to Turkish intervention ?

[Ottoman Democratic Turkey]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Cyprus was going to have a Greek President and a Turkish vice-president but the turks (who were a very small minority) didnt accepted this. Turkey invaded Cyprus and it is still occupying it. Also the Greeks are almost the 80% of the Cyprian population and the turks only the 18%.

By the way i am Greek.

[Valdehmar]

God damn. I'm Scottish and everyone I know hates the English and wants independence. The Scottish Nationalist Party is bloody good party regardless of what some people might have you believe nationalists are like, and they have a majority of 70% in parliament.

30% of Scots have said that they want independence, with a further 20% saying that they would like a split from England but still be linked. If those figures are anything to go by we will be independent in 2014 when the referendum comes.

[Ottoman Democratic Turkey]

Also a coup led to the Turkish invasion, not genocide.

[Kemaliste]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Cyprus was going to have a Greek President and a Turkish vice-president but the turks (who were a very small minority) didnt accepted this. Turkey invaded Cyprus and it is still occupying it. Also the Greeks are almost the 80% of the Cyprian population and the turks only the 18%.

Yes, that was supposed to be like that according to Zurich and London Agreement. But later the Greeks side changed their mind, began to slaughter Turks and attempted a genocide and an ethnic cleanse toward them, in order to ensure full Greek hegemony in the island and have it annexed by Greece. Turkey was the guarantor country of Zurich and London Agreement, which Greeks violated and then, inevitable Turkish intervention.

Also a coup led to the Turkish invasion, not genocide.

The intervention put an end to the military junta in Greece. You should be thankful.

[Ottoman Democratic Turkey]

Yes, that was supposed to be like that according to Zurich and London Agreement. But later the Greeks side changed their mind, began to slaughter Turks and attempted a genocide and an ethnic cleanse toward them, in order to ensure full Greek hegemony in the island and have it annexed by Greece. Turkey was the guarantor country of Zurich and London Agreement, which Greeks violated and then, inevitable Turkish intervention.

1) There was violence between Greeks and Turks, but no genocide. Also Turks Nationalists killed Turks that wanted a united Cyprus and a peace between the two nations.

2) If you want to talk about genocide, lets talk about the 2 million Armenians and the 1 million greeks ( Pontians) that were killed by the Turks.

[Cameroi]

all of them, independent of each other, but united by a world they all share considerately. not only of each other, but of every living thing on it.

[Kemaliste]

Yes, that was supposed to be like that according to Zurich and London Agreement. But later the Greeks side changed their mind, began to slaughter Turks and attempted a genocide and an ethnic cleanse toward them, in order to ensure full Greek hegemony in the island and have it annexed by Greece. Turkey was the guarantor country of Zurich and London Agreement, which Greeks violated and then, inevitable Turkish intervention.

1) There was violence between Greeks and Turks, but no genocide. Also Turks Nationalists killed Turks that wanted a united Cyprus and a peace between the two nations.

2) If you want to talk about genocide, lets talk about the 2 million Armenians and the 1 million greeks ( Pontians) that were killed by the Turks.

1 - Greeks tried to get rid of Turks in the island in order to connect the island to Greece. Nikos Sampos admits: "Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus''.

2 - The number was about 1.5 million since the last time I heard, what's next, 10 million ? stupid lies. Don't try to change the subject anyway. But of course I've got much to say about that as well, not here though.

[SD_Film Artists]

God damn. I'm Scottish and everyone I know hates the English

regardless of what some people might have you believe nationalists are like

Yeah, no idea why we might have negative impressions of Scot Nats.

[Valdehmar]

God damn. I'm Scottish and everyone I know hates the English

regardless of what some people might have you believe nationalists are like

Yeah, no idea why we might have negative impressions of Scot Nats.

They aren't Nationalists. Most of the people I know are Torries.

[Stovokor]

Free Texas, American dominance over them will not stand, rabble rabble rabble rabble.

[Distruzio]

Every single separatist organization out there should be independent.

[Souseiseki]

God damn. I'm Scottish and everyone I know hates the English

regardless of what some people might have you believe nationalists are like

Yeah, no idea why we might have negative impressions of Scot Nats.

more like scots natsis amirite

[SD_Film Artists]

Yeah, no idea why we might have negative impressions of Scot Nats.

more like scots natsis amirite

hm?