Countries/regions you think should be independent?

[Shard_Head]

p.s where is that picture of? your country's flag.

Consider it a challenge to figure it out. I'll be impressed if you do.

[The Huskar Social Union]

p.s where is that picture of? your country's flag.

Consider it a challenge to figure it out. I'll be impressed if you do.

Kinbane Castle? from the description of that place it looks like there.
Or is it actually a place called Shard Head and im being an idiot.

[Shard_Head]

Consider it a challenge to figure it out. I'll be impressed if you do.

Kinbane Castle? from the description of that place it looks like there.
Or is it actually a place called Shard Head and im being an idiot.

edit: the second one right.

Nope to either option. Try in Down instead.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Kinbane Castle? from the description of that place it looks like there.
Or is it actually a place called Shard Head and im being an idiot.

edit: the second one right.

Nope to either option. Try in Down instead.

Narrow Water Castle?

[Paises Madrilenos]

Independent countries? Haven't we enough borders? I think we should have more unions of countries divided in federal states, like USA or the EU, not more countries, or we would go back to the medieval era little countries.
The only independent country I support is Palestine, because there's so much tension with Israel for the religious problem.

[Shard_Head]

Nope to either option. Try in Down instead.

Narrow Water Castle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabo_Tower

To put you out of your misery

[The Huskar Social Union]

Narrow Water Castle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabo_Tower

To put you out of your misery

oh right. Huh a memorial to one of Wellington's generals.

[Albicia]

The Basques.

[Shard_Head]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabo_Tower

To put you out of your misery

oh right. Huh a memorial to one of Wellington's generals.

I know it more as "That place that gets awesome views down the lough"

[Northwestern Iberia]

Independent countries? Haven't we enough borders? I think we should have more unions of countries divided in federal states, like USA or the EU, not more countries, or we would go back to the medieval era little countries.
The only independent country I support is Palestine, because there's so much tension with Israel for the religious problem.

Of course, you are from Madrid... you say that only because the imperialist pigs of Madrid like you don´t want to give Galiza, Euskal Herria and Catalunya the independence we claim for. We will kick out all the spanish pigs like you from our lands. Galiza ceibe, poder popular!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWZImEYrYRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8owhLgQs3I&feature=related

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Independent countries? Haven't we enough borders? I think we should have more unions of countries divided in federal states, like USA or the EU, not more countries, or we would go back to the medieval era little countries.
The only independent country I support is Palestine, because there's so much tension with Israel for the religious problem.

Of course, you are from Madrid... you say that only because the imperialist pigs of Madrid like you don´t want to give Galiza, Euskal Herria and Catalunya the independence we claim for. We will kick out all the spanish pigs like you from our lands. Galiza ceibe, poder popular!!!

In an ideal world, Galicia, Catalunya and Euskal Herria would be independent. The reality, though, is far more complicated.

And this is coming from an Asturian who would gladly see those regions go free.

A mina pregunta sempre foi: e posible que esas rexions, sendo independente, pode sobrevivir so sen a axuda do resto de Espana? Hai momentos nos que vexo o nacionalismo de benvida. Outras veces, a division que creou me parece negativa.

Pidolle que perdoe a mina galega, xa que non e a mellor debido a falta de practica.

[Castouria]

Im surprised nobody seems to have mentioned Nigeria.

Specifically, splitting it into North and South. What with the rise of Islamic extremists bombing the hell out of Christians throughout the country in an attempt force Sharia Law.

Perhaps if they were divided, the Muslims could stay in the North and Christians and all other religious minorities in the South.

[Vonrittnerland]

Flanders IMO or a union with the Netherlands.

[Markinian Skrill]

America never should have fought the civil war. We should anti-annex the south from the Union and send those good-for-nothings out like they so desired a little while ago.

[Northwestern Iberia]

Of course, you are from Madrid... you say that only because the imperialist pigs of Madrid like you don´t want to give Galiza, Euskal Herria and Catalunya the independence we claim for. We will kick out all the spanish pigs like you from our lands. Galiza ceibe, poder popular!!!

In an ideal world, Galicia, Catalunya and Euskal Herria would be independent. The reality, though, is far more complicated.

And this is coming from an Asturian who would gladly see those regions go free.

A mina pregunta sempre foi: e posible que esas rexions, sendo independente, pode sobrevivir so sen a axuda do resto de Espana? Hai momentos nos que vexo o nacionalismo de benvida. Outras veces, a division que creou me parece negativa.

Pidolle que perdoe a mina galega, xa que non e a mellor debido a falta de practica.

Non pasa nada, chéame de ledicia ver a xente de fora de Galiza que sabe galego. Pois ben, e por que non íamos sobrevivir ser Espanha? Se é por recursos, suponse que Espanha tampoco poudería. Por poder pódese.

A todo isto, oín falar de que en Asturies tedes os vosos propios idiomas (Eonaviego e Bable creo lembrar).

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

In an ideal world, Galicia, Catalunya and Euskal Herria would be independent. The reality, though, is far more complicated.

And this is coming from an Asturian who would gladly see those regions go free.

A mina pregunta sempre foi: e posible que esas rexions, sendo independente, pode sobrevivir so sen a axuda do resto de Espana? Hai momentos nos que vexo o nacionalismo de benvida. Outras veces, a division que creou me parece negativa.

Pidolle que perdoe a mina galega, xa que non e a mellor debido a falta de practica.

Non pasa nada, chéame de ledicia ver a xente de fora de Galiza que sabe galego. Pois ben, e por que non íamos sobrevivir ser Espanha? Se é por recursos, suponse que Espanha tampoco poudería. Por poder pódese.

Eu quero, porque eu podo practicar o galego, se non, eu esquezo.

Digo para os recursos. Non e que eu non creo que Galicia non pode sobrevivir, pero non son. Non seria algo dificil?

Tovia stamos lluxando per l'oficialida de la llingua n'Asturies. Claru, a menus qui haya paixa'o algu novo.

Por desgraza eu estou fora de Asturias e de 4 anos.



Translation: I love it because I can practice Galician. If not, I forget it.

I'm referring to the resources issue. It's not that I think Galicia can't survive, but I'm not sure. Wouldn't it be a tad difficult?

[Holy Trek]

As usual, you choose to repeat the ever-popular Russian line that 'All Evil comes from the West'....Georgia is aligned with the West, ergo, Georgia is evil. And you STILL have yet to answer my question on when Russia will finally, if ever, come out of the 18th century and realize that suppressing Chechen independence will NOT make the terrorist threat just go away. Plus, Russia was rather foolish enough to support Serbia, despite the fact Serbia was committing Human Rights abuse in both Bosnia and Kosovo.

Actually, it was more of "we want stability in the Caucasus", "Georgia is destabilizing the Caucasus", "oh shit, Georgia just attacked out peacekeeping base, that's a de facto declaration of war, let's go kick their ass", "oh shit, now they're killing our civvies, it's on", than "Georgia is ubah ebulz cause it's allied with West". Have you a treaty showing Georgia's alliance with the West?

Also, Chechnya's not independent cause Chechnya attacked Russia three years after they got independence. What is so difficult about that concept to grasp? If Nation A attacks Russia, Nation A will be fucked. It's not a hard concept. Don't invade Russia. See? Simple. As for human rights abuses in Kosovo, you might want to doublecheck who the biggest abuser of human rights is. Hint: It starts with "Tha" and ends with "ci".

And how many times must I insist...SELF-DEFENSE IS NO EXCUSE FOR DENYING A PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN DESTINY!! Russia IS being hypocritical. They send peacekeepers into areas that are Georgian sovereign territory to support pro-independence movements in Ossetia and Abkhazia, yet they deny Chechnya the right to its own independence just because some terrorists have taken refuge there?? If we go with your so-called 'self-defense' argument, then Georgia had every right to shoot at those Russian peacekeepers, as they had violated Georgian territorial sovereignty.

Erm, yeah, it is. If Hitler believes that his own destiny is Lebensraum, I'd expect Russia to have a few words with Nazis about that. The Russian Peacekeepers are there, due to a treaty that was signed by Georgia, and approved by the international community. If you allow another country to build an embassy on your soil, you do not have a right to shoot at the ambassador, and claim self-defense. You've allowed the other country to have the embassy, so they're not violating your territory. Similarly, if you allow another country to maintain a peacekeeping/supply base on your land, then you do not get to claim "territorial integrity" against that base, just as you wouldn't claim it against the embassy. Russia sent in Peacekeepers into South Ossetia was a result of the treaty that Georgia signed.

As for Chechnya - the Chechens attacked Russia in Dagestan - that's what triggered the war!

WTF are YOU talking about? I never said McCain WAS a source!

You've claimed that US would defend Georgia in the face of Russian aggression. Someone asked you to show why the US would be required to do so. Can you show that?

OH I AM SORRY....I WAS ON SOMETHING CALLED A VACATION. Something you might not know anything about. And just for the sake of me repeating this, Russian 'peacekeepers' had NO RIGHT to be stationed in sovereign Georgian territory. It would be like having Canadian troops stationed in Maine, Minnesota, and Washington state.

Now, you want to convince me that there was sufficient reason for Russian involvement in Chechnya and Georgia that DOESN'T involve what Russia considered 'violations', yet the Chechens and Georgians (and myself) see as self-defense against outside threats? Cause if you can't, then just admit that...and we'll ALL be happy.

[Tuthina]

Im surprised nobody seems to have mentioned Nigeria.

Specifically, splitting it into North and South. What with the rise of Islamic extremists bombing the hell out of Christians throughout the country in an attempt force Sharia Law.

Perhaps if they were divided, the Muslims could stay in the North and Christians and all other religious minorities in the South.

Examples from Sudan (although admittedly the northerners aren't very extreme) show that it might only turn the civil war into a war between the two newfound countries.

[Castouria]

Im surprised nobody seems to have mentioned Nigeria.

Specifically, splitting it into North and South. What with the rise of Islamic extremists bombing the hell out of Christians throughout the country in an attempt force Sharia Law.

Perhaps if they were divided, the Muslims could stay in the North and Christians and all other religious minorities in the South.

Examples from Sudan (although admittedly the northerners aren't very extreme) show that it might only turn the civil war into a war between the two newfound countries.

That may be true but from what I have heard. North Somalia is attacking the South because of the its oil reserves which I also heard were discovered not so long ago. Their attack is not religiously motivated like in Nigeria where those lunatics want to get rid of Civil law and implement Sharia law.

[Tuthina]

Examples from Sudan (although admittedly the northerners aren't very extreme) show that it might only turn the civil war into a war between the two newfound countries.

That may be true but from what I have heard. North Somalia is attacking the South because of the its oil reserves which I also heard were discovered not so long ago. Their attack is not religiously motivated like in Nigeria where those lunatics want to get rid of Civil law and implement Sharia law.

It certainly won't help much, especially since from what a google search reveals, Nigeria also have similar oil deposit distribution as Sudan (most at the south), so I fear it might aggravate more conflicts on top of the value differences.

[Castouria]

That may be true but from what I have heard. North Somalia is attacking the South because of the its oil reserves which I also heard were discovered not so long ago. Their attack is not religiously motivated like in Nigeria where those lunatics want to get rid of Civil law and implement Sharia law.

It certainly won't help much, especially since from what a google search reveals, Nigeria also have similar oil deposit distribution as Sudan (most at the south), so I fear it might aggravate more conflicts on top of the value differences.

Fair enough. I knew Nigeria had oil but I wasnt sure in what parts. That would be definitely problematic.
Seems like a catch 22 for them then.

[Vorond]

The only reason why people want to see Scotland independant, is because they've watched far too much Braveheart.

Na, I want to see the english reaction to the Republic of Scotland adopting the Euro and driving on the right side of the road.

[Souseiseki]

The only reason why people want to see Scotland independant, is because they've watched far too much Braveheart.

[Northwestern Iberia]

Non pasa nada, chéame de ledicia ver a xente de fora de Galiza que sabe galego. Pois ben, e por que non íamos sobrevivir ser Espanha? Se é por recursos, suponse que Espanha tampoco poudería. Por poder pódese.

Eu quero, porque eu podo practicar o galego, se non, eu esquezo.

Digo para os recursos. Non e que eu non creo que Galicia non pode sobrevivir, pero non son. Non seria algo dificil?

Tovia stamos lluxando per l'oficialida de la llingua n'Asturies. Claru, a menus qui haya paixa'o algu novo.

Por desgraza eu estou fora de Asturias e de 4 anos.



Translation: I love it because I can practice Galician. If not, I forget it.

I'm referring to the resources issue. It's not that I think Galicia can't survive, but I'm not sure. Wouldn't it be a tad difficult?

Algo difícil é, pero é o mesmo que coa economía espanhola, a balanza comercial é negativa porque Espanha non ten moitos recurso naturais coma o petróleo. De todos modos, eu defendo o marxismo, e nunha sociedade marxista creo que sería aínda máis sinxelo ca nunha capitalista. Tamén defendo a loita independentista só coma forma de liberación da clase obreira, porque obter a independencia, pero pasar de que nos roube Botín (O banqueiro) a que nos roube un empresario galego non cambiaría nada.

Translation: It´s a little difficult, but it´s the same like with Spain, the balance of trade is negative because Spain lacks of a lot of natural resources like the oil. Anyway, I defend the marxism, and with a marxist society it would be easier to manage the situation than in a capitalist one. I also defend the independence struggle only as a way of liberation of the workers, because obtain independence, but move from having Botin stealing us (One Spanish banker) to having a Galician banker stealing, it wouldn´t change anything.

[Danbershan]

The only reason why people want to see Scotland independant, is because they've watched far too much Braveheart.

Up front at least, I actually think Salmon makes a lot of sense...