Is democracy the only good form of government?

[Hippostania]

Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

And who cares if it wasn't legal according to some tinpot dictatorship? We liberated the people of Iraq and deposed a dictator, of course his dictator buddies were pissed.

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

A majority of UN countries, and two countries in the security council are dictatorships. The UN is essentially a circlejerk of tinpot dictatorships who try to protect each other from liberty and democracy. That is why I think that all Western countries should withdraw from the UN and create a new union meant for democratic countries only, that would essentially replace the UN.

[Tuthina]

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

To be fair, the veto rights given permanently to that five countries is pretty bullshit.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Ain't that essentially be ignoring their votes?

No. Commies are free to vote for parties that aren't essentially criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens.

[Divair]

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

To be fair, the veto rights given permanently to that five countries is pretty bullshit.

Probably my only complaint about the UN. Permanent security seats is just stupid.

[Volnotova]

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

A majority of UN countries, and two countries in the security council are dictatorships. The UN is essentially a circlejerk of tinpot dictatorships who try to protect each other from liberty and democracy. That is why I think that all Western countries should withdraw from the UN and create a new union meant for democratic countries only, that would essentially replace the UN.

No they are not.

Russia is not a dictatorship, Putin does not enjoy absolute power, nor does China's premier Hu Jintao.

You once again ignored criticism other people gave(including my elaboration).

You are so predictable Hippo.

[Volnotova]

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

To be fair, the veto rights given permanently to that five countries is pretty bullshit.

He was stating that Kofi Annan was a dictator.

I rest my case.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.

A majority of UN countries, and two countries in the security council are dictatorships. The UN is essentially a circlejerk of tinpot dictatorships who try to protect each other from liberty and democracy. That is why I think that all Western countries should withdraw from the UN and create a new union meant for democratic countries only, that would essentially replace the UN.

I agree. Get rid of the UN, and preferably replace it with... Nothing.

[Hippostania]

No they are not.

Russia is not a dictatorship, Putin does not enjoy absolute power, nor does China's premier Hu Jintao.

You once again ignored criticism other people gave(including my elaboration).

You are so predictable Hippo.

Russia and China are both dictatorships. I believe that they're too big to be fixed, and that's why I believe that both Russia and China should be partitioned into economically, militarily and politically insignificant rump states that could independently achieve a democratic system of government. They obviously can't do it now.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

To be fair, the veto rights given permanently to that five countries is pretty bullshit.

He was stating that Kofi Annan was a dictator.

I rest my case.

Your case has been rested so many times, it must be ready to get up by now. Lazy case if I ever saw one.

[Svobodu]

I like this Winston Churchill quote:

"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."

[Soviet Russia Republic]

No they are not.

Russia is not a dictatorship, Putin does not enjoy absolute power, nor does China's premier Hu Jintao.

You once again ignored criticism other people gave(including my elaboration).

You are so predictable Hippo.

Russia and China are both dictatorships. I believe that they're too big to be fixed, and that's why I believe that both Russia and China should be partitioned into economically, militarily and politically insignificant rump states that could independently achieve a democratic system of government. They obviously can't do it now.

Just because your party doesn't win, does not mean that country is a dictatorship. Oh, and hell no.

[Acrainia]

Probably not the best possible form of government, but its the best we've figured out so far. As for forcing it onto others, no but we should support those who seek it on their own.

[Risottia]

If you think so, is it right to instill democracy on nations by force.?

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Anyway, no, and no.

[Neo Arcem]

[Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored

I will be adding that to my sig.

No, Democracy is certainly not the best form of government. Friends, as a RL American my first concern is the American system, so consider the average American. Then consider that 50% of them are STUPIDER than that, and that those are the people voting for an elected official; consider that 50.00001% of the population is all the support a "democratically" elected official needs to take office (or with the electoral college, I believe all that is needed is 22% (http://www.nctm.org/uploadedFiles/Lesso ... 201961.pdf)) That means a full 49.99999 of the population could hate a guys guts and he could still be elected. Combine that with America's low voter turnout, and, well, we get people like Bush in office. Any system by which the fools can run the country is flawed in it's basic chassis.
And, actually, Yes to no.2. It is the prerogative of humans to struggle, and if democracy is the last one standing at the end of the day, then it is democracies right to stand there. A democracy has as much right as any (albeit hypocritically) to enforce it's viewpoint upon others.

And did you really call Kofi Annan a dictator? The guy trying to save the Syrian peoples from a power mad government? The guy with a Nobel Peace Prize? That guy, right? I'm not gonna wiki him and find out he actually eats babys, am I?

*EDIT* Nvrmnd the Kofi bit; I see now that no one actually accused him of such. My bad.

[Volnotova]

He was stating that Kofi Annan was a dictator.

I rest my case.

Your case has been rested so many times, it must be ready to get up by now. Lazy case if I ever saw one.

There is no point arguing with Hippostania.

He say ridiculous and dipshit insane things for the sake of arguing for them.

He is not dumb, he just like to annoy the living hell out of people by making totally inane and illogical claim like stating Kofi Annan is a dictator, that Iran will be liberated if it is nuked to kingdom come and how the United States should invade China and Russia, etc.

[Hippostania]

Just because your party doesn't win, does not mean that country is a dictatorship. Oh, and hell no.

If an authoritarian party that restricts freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of.. well, pretty much everything wins, then yeah, it is a dictatorship. Partitioning Russia is ultimately good for everyone, including Russians.

[Mike the Progressive]

Yes and no.

Though I think countries, whose people are oppressed and whose people are wiling to fight for their freedom, should be given aid and assistance.

[Risottia]

Just because your party doesn't win, does not mean that country is a dictatorship. Oh, and hell no.

If an authoritarian party that restricts freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of.. well, pretty much everything wins, then yeah, it is a dictatorship. Partitioning Russia is ultimately good for everyone, including Russians.

Italy getting partitioned into a myriad of duchies and city-states for some centuries didn't turn out too much good for Italy. It was merely pretty useful for those who wanted to conquer bits of it.
Nor it did prevent Italy becoming a dictatorship some 60 years after coming together again.


So, no.

[Ifreann]

Just because your party doesn't win, does not mean that country is a dictatorship. Oh, and hell no.

If an authoritarian party that restricts freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of.. well, pretty much everything wins, then yeah, it is a dictatorship. Partitioning Russia is ultimately good for everyone, including Russians.

Like if you took over Finland and started banning political parties left, ri...well, just on the left.


Never stops being funny.

[Hippostania]

Nor it did prevent Italy becoming a dictatorship some 60 years after coming together again.

Shoud've stayed seperated..!

And even if some of the little Russian ministates become dictatorships, they'd be much easier to liberate. And most of them would become functioning democracies anyway.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The fact that "the people" have voted in Communism shows that democracy is not the best form of government.

I rest my case.

[Volnotova]

Just because your party doesn't win, does not mean that country is a dictatorship. Oh, and hell no.

If an authoritarian party that restricts freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of.. well, pretty much everything wins, then yeah, it is a dictatorship. Partitioning Russia is ultimately good for everyone, including Russians.

Do you support partitioning Canada too? And the UK, Germany, Spain, Turkey, Iran, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Brazil, etc.

Including the U.S. too?

[Tuthina]

Italy getting partitioned into a myriad of duchies and city-states for some centuries didn't turn out too much good for Italy. It was merely pretty useful for those who wanted to conquer bits of it.
Nor it did prevent Italy becoming a dictatorship some 60 years after coming together again.


So, no.

To be fair, Italy is never meant to be a single country to begin with, judging from the fact that there are a great difference from culture to language. The failed attempt to unite the culture of Italy is pretty much the reason why it lost the WWII with a particularly embarrassing results.

Shoud've stayed seperated..!

And even if some of the little Russian ministates become dictatorships, they'd be much easier to liberate. And most of them would become functioning democracies anyway.

As much as I despise the PRC government, I am afraid this would only lead to more killing without an end beyond military control, that is not counting the aftermath of separating the states at the first place.

I also don't think turning them into economically insignificant ministates would fare well for merchants and entrepreneurs, you know, the people who work hard to be rich.

[Volnotova]

The fact that "the people" have voted in Communism shows that democracy is not the best form of government.

I rest my case.

You do know that I am a fierce anti-democrat right?

[Volnotova]

Italy getting partitioned into a myriad of duchies and city-states for some centuries didn't turn out too much good for Italy. It was merely pretty useful for those who wanted to conquer bits of it.
Nor it did prevent Italy becoming a dictatorship some 60 years after coming together again.


So, no.

To be fair, Italy is never meant to be a single country to begin with, judging from the fact that there are a great difference from culture to language. The failed attempt to unite the culture of Italy is pretty much the reason why it lost the WWII with a particularly embarrassing results.

Shoud've stayed seperated..!

And even if some of the little Russian ministates become dictatorships, they'd be much easier to liberate. And most of them would become functioning democracies anyway.

As much as I despise the PRC government, I am afraid this would only lead to more killing without an end beyond military control, that is not counting the aftermath of separating the states at the first place.

I also don't think turning them into economically insignificant ministates would fare well for merchants and entrepreneurs, you know, the people who work hard to be rich.

See Austria-Hungary.

Its economy was devastated after it was partitioned.