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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:37 am

Cromarty wrote:
Hippostania wrote: Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored.

OH THE IRONY. :rofl:

Isn't that why Hippo things that commies shouldn't vote?
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Postby Tuthina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:38 am

Hippostania wrote:
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Want to actually check my sources and my criticism for ones?

I just decided to ignore it since.. well, that shit was dumb. But oh well, sure.

If people want male MP's, then they vote for male MP's. If people want white MP's, they for white MP's. If people want rich MP's, they vote for rich MP's. Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored. Sure, I understand that commies are pissed because their candidate who wants to tax everything and murder everyone who's successful only recieves seven votes every year, but you just gotta deal with it.

Besides, MP's are rich and succesful because they've done lots of work to achieve it. No one wants to have some loser who doesn't know anything in the Parliament. And MP's deserve a high salary because they do lots of work, and the work they do is very important. Simple as that.

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Oh, concerning the question of OP,

Cromarty wrote:No, and no.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:39 am

Tagmatium wrote:
Cromarty wrote:OH THE IRONY. :rofl:

Isn't that why Hippo things that commies shouldn't vote?

I don't think he minds if they vote. He just wants to ban the parties they'd vote for, if memory serves.

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Postby Tuthina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Isn't that why Hippo things that commies shouldn't vote?

I don't think he minds if they vote. He just wants to ban the parties they'd vote for, if memory serves.

Ain't that essentially be ignoring their votes?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:43 am

No, and no. That is ridiculous.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:44 am

Tuthina wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't think he minds if they vote. He just wants to ban the parties they'd vote for, if memory serves.

Ain't that essentially be ignoring their votes?

Yes. Well, unless they decide to vote for one of his preferred right wing parties.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:44 am

Cromarty wrote:
Hippostania wrote: Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored.

OH THE IRONY. :rofl:


Indeed, straight from the mouth of El Presidente himself.

Mind you, it was Hippo that suggested locking up political enemies, even executing them and censoring them.

I rest my case.
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Postby Hippostania » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:44 am

Tuthina wrote:Ain't that essentially be ignoring their votes?

No. Commies are free to vote for parties that aren't essentially criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:47 am

Hippostania wrote:I just decided to ignore it since.. well, that shit was dumb. But oh well, sure.

If people want male MP's, then they vote for male MP's. If people want white MP's, they for white MP's. If people want rich MP's, they vote for rich MP's. Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored. Sure, I understand that commies are pissed because their candidate who wants to tax everything and murder everyone who's successful only recieves seven votes every year, but you just gotta deal with it.


The point was that the system is not representative and not democratic. It fails at this entire abysmal "governance by-proxy" thing.

Also, lol, are you insinuating I am a communist? :rofl:

Besides, MP's are rich and succesful because they've done lots of work to achieve it. No one wants to have some loser who doesn't know anything in the Parliament. And MP's deserve a high salary because they do lots of work, and the work they do is very important. Simple as that.


*sigh*

The problem with you is not that you are dumb, because you are not.

The problem is that you deliberately ignore the point I was making.

My point was that "Liberal Democracies" are not representative.
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Postby Drekka » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:47 am

Cromarty wrote:
Hippostania wrote: Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored.

OH THE IRONY. :rofl:
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Postby Tuthina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:47 am

Hippostania wrote:No. Commies are free to vote for parties that aren't essentially criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens.

I agree, although I would argue not all leftists/fascists parties are like that, and criminal procedures generally do not charge people before they actually commit crimes.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:48 am

Hippostania wrote:
Tuthina wrote:Ain't that essentially be ignoring their votes?

No. Commies are free to vote for parties that aren't essentially criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens.


:rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?
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Postby Ecans » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:48 am

Well, yes and no :rofl:
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Postby Tuthina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:49 am

Volnotova wrote:
Hippostania wrote:No. Commies are free to vote for parties that aren't essentially criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens.


:rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Inb4 necessary evil.
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Postby The free state of Great Britain » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:50 am

Most forms of government suck, but democracy has by far been the best so far.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:50 am

Tuthina wrote:
Volnotova wrote:
:rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Inb4 necessary evil.


Inb4 "Spreading peace, democracy and liberty".
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Postby Hippostania » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:51 am

Volnotova wrote::rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

And who cares if it wasn't legal according to some tinpot dictatorship? We liberated the people of Iraq and deposed a dictator, of course his dictator buddies were pissed.
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Postby Tuthina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:52 am

Volnotova wrote:Inb4 "Spreading peace, democracy and liberty".

To be fair, this is not a fundamentally bad idea. I just think that the flamboyant attitude would do more harm than good in that direction. I also think the liberty of getting intoxicated to be my fundamental rights too.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:53 am

Hippostania wrote:
Volnotova wrote::rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary

Tuthina wrote:Inb4 necessary evil.

in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

Volnotova wrote:Inb4 "Spreading peace, democracy and liberty".

Two for two!

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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary

Tuthina wrote:Inb4 necessary evil.

in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

Volnotova wrote:Inb4 "Spreading peace, democracy and liberty".

Two for two!

Meh, ain't impressive. Hippo is predictable.

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Postby Rainara » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:54 am

It's like saying junk food is the only best thing in foods. Eating too much, you may sickness. If you force it on other people, they will love it, but they will get too much of it, and are in the risk of diseases.

Same goes for democracy.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:57 am

Hippostania wrote:
Volnotova wrote::rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

And who cares if it wasn't legal according to some tinpot dictatorship? We liberated the people of Iraq and deposed a dictator, of course his dictator buddies were pissed.


The UN is a tinpot dictatorship?

Now I have seen it all.
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Postby Yootwopia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:58 am

Divair wrote:
Ifreann wrote:


Two for two!

Meh, ain't impressive. Hippo is predictable.

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Postby Neohippies » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:58 am

Hippostania wrote:commies are pissed because their candidate who wants to tax everything and murder everyone who's successful

Hippostania wrote:criminal organizations that are trying to murder innocent people and make the government steal money and property from its citizens


:rofl: Nice far-right propaganda you got there. My answer to the questions? No and no.
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Postby Videssos » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:58 am

Hippostania wrote:
Volnotova wrote::rofl:

What about Republicans stating that civilian deaths are mere collateral damage? What about Bush and the illegal war in Iraq(See Kofi Annan's reply when asked whether the Iraq war was illegal or not, something deliberately ignored en messe in American media)?

Some unfortunate civilian casualties were necessary in the Iraqi people's struggle for freedom from Saddam's oppressive rule. They died so Iraq could be free.

And who cares if it wasn't legal according to some tinpot dictatorship? We liberated the people of Iraq and deposed a dictator, of course his dictator buddies were pissed.



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