Is democracy the only good form of government?

[The Rich Port]

Democracy thread went into swimming pools and alcohol?

[Neohippies]

If everyone joined it voluntarily, then yeah. I'm fine with commie communes for example.

This is new from you Hippo. Judging by near 100% of your post, I thought you were a fierce anti-communist through and through, wanting to exterminate commies as if they were a colossal crowd of insects. So you approve hippie communes?

Feel free to take part in government, just don't start enacting laws which violate the rights and freedoms of minorities. That's what commies and other leftists usually do.

Not sure if serious... What kind of minorities are you talking about?

[Chinese Regions]

Cars aren't necessary, as proven by everyone who lived before 1890 iirc.

They are necessary to maintain our current standard of life. Alcohol is not.

Swimming pools are unnecessary and dangerous, they should be banned. There is no reason for swimming pools other than for personal pleasure.

People can drown in swimming pools, but if they drown, it was their own decision to swim in the swimming pool. They acknowledged the risks when they entered the pool. However, alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year.

It's a person's decision to drink alcohol also.

[Mavorpen]

People can drown in swimming pools, but if they drown, it was their own decision to swim in the swimming pool. They acknowledged the risks when they entered the pool. However, alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year.

LOL? What about the people who get hit by a drunk driver? Should they get a big "nope, fuck you" because they CHOSE to take the risk? Or how about we ban cars because people CHOOSE to use them.

[Hippostania]

Alcoholic beverages are an important part of many meals, and I'm pretty sure they're a huge part of many economies.

They can be replaced with non-alcoholic variants. Economy doesn't matter in this case, as lives are more important.

They are necessary to maintain our current standard of life. Alcohol is not.

Swimming pool's aren't necessary either.

On the other hand, you are quite fond on killing innocent civilians and would love to see China, Iran and Russia go up in a nuclear holocaust.

As I said earlier, people can drown in swimming pools, but if they drown, it was their own decision to swim in the swimming pool. They acknowledged the risks when they entered the pool. However, alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year.

And I do not want to see them go up in a nuclear holocaust. If they do, then the dictatorial regimes of those countries are responsible. They'd rather kill their own people than let them be free.

[Tuthina]

Democracy thread went into swimming pools and alcohol?

Instant derail just add hippo!

[Volnotova]

Cars aren't necessary, as proven by everyone who lived before 1890 iirc.

They are necessary to maintain our current standard of life. Alcohol is not.

Swimming pools are unnecessary and dangerous, they should be banned. There is no reason for swimming pools other than for personal pleasure.

People can drown in swimming pools, but if they drown, it was their own decision to swim in the swimming pool. They acknowledged the risks when they entered the pool. However, alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year.

Witnessing someone drown or finding one of your fellow peers dead can be a traumatic experience! We must not allow for the possibility for something so vile to occur and taint the minds of your youth!

As others point out, alcohol is a major part of the economy and alcoholic beverages serve as valuable ingredients in various meals.

Also, stop assuming that every person that consumes alcohol is a violent sociopathic alcoholist.

[Chinese Regions]

Alcoholic beverages are an important part of many meals, and I'm pretty sure they're a huge part of many economies.

They can be replaced with non-alcoholic variants. Economy doesn't matter in this case, as lives are more important.

Irony factor: Over 9000!

[Hippostania]

It's a person's decision to drink alcohol also.

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

[Risottia]

Cars aren't necessary, as proven by everyone who lived before 1890 iirc.

They are necessary to maintain our current standard of life. Alcohol is not.

YOUR standard of life as a teetotaler.
MY standard of life includes drinking wine and beer, and also cooking with wine.

You're assuming everyone wants to live like you. And that no-one is able to handle what you can't or doesn't want to handle.

[Chinese Regions]

It's a person's decision to drink alcohol also.

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

Then why do you want to restrict private drinking too?

[Tuthina]

As I said earlier, people can drown in swimming pools, but if they drown, it was their own decision to swim in the swimming pool. They acknowledged the risks when they entered the pool. However, alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year.

And I do not want to see them go up in a nuclear holocaust. If they do, then the dictatorial regimes of those countries are responsible. They'd rather kill their own people than let them be free.

You do realise blaming countries for defend themselves does not work, right? And I feel puzzling to see that while you think restricting freedom for millions of people by prohibition and killing millions of innocent people in the regimes you wish to liberate is well, but "alcohol also kills thousands of innocent people every year" is a sin.

[Mavorpen]

It's a person's decision to drink alcohol also.

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

Drowning affects the lives of others. Driving affects the lives of others.

[Hippostania]

Witnessing someone drown or finding one of your fellow peers dead can be a traumatic experience! We must not allow for the possibility for something so vile to occur and taint the minds of your youth!

You're comparing some traumas to death? -.-'

As others point out, alcohol is a major part of the economy and alcoholic beverages serve as valuable ingredients in various meals.

Which can be replaced.

Also, stop assuming that every person that consumes alcohol is a violent sociopathic alcoholist.

Then it must be a coincidence that every single person who I've met who doesn't drink alcohol is 200% smarter than any person I know who drinks alcohol.

[Mavorpen]

Then it must be a coincidence that every single person who I've met who doesn't drink alcohol is 200% smarter than any person I know who drinks alcohol.

What?

[Volnotova]

If everyone joined it voluntarily, then yeah. I'm fine with commie communes for example.

This is new from you Hippo. Judging by near 100% of your post, I thought you were a fierce anti-communist through and through, wanting to exterminate commies as if they were a colossal crowd of insects. So you approve hippie communes?

Feel free to take part in government, just don't start enacting laws which violate the rights and freedoms of minorities. That's what commies and other leftists usually do.

Not sure if serious... What kind of minorities are you talking about?

Communists.

They can be replaced with non-alcoholic variants. Economy doesn't matter in this case, as lives are more important.

Hence, Venezuela and Iran should not be invaded in order to exploit their oil and natural gas reserves, instead we should work towards greater international peace and prosperity, amright?

...

You will be doing the average Chinese and Russian citizen a lot more of a favour by cooperating with them than by forcing this warped ideal of Faux Liberal Aristocracy on them.

And I do not want to see them go up in a nuclear holocaust. If they do, then the dictatorial regimes of those countries are responsible. They'd rather kill their own people than let them be free.

Yea right, so if they don't impose the American idea of "Freedom" then it is ok to nuke them and cause billions of death?

[The Rich Port]

Then it must be a coincidence that every single person who I've met who doesn't drink alcohol is 200% smarter than any person I know who drinks alcohol.

O.o

[Zottistan]

Also, stop assuming that every person that consumes alcohol is a violent sociopathic alcoholist.

Then it must be a coincidence that every single person who I've met who doesn't drink alcohol is 200% smarter than any person I know who drinks alcohol.

Stupidity=/= psychopathy.

[Great Nepal]

It's a person's decision to drink alcohol also.

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

How exactly does drinking alcohol harm other's lives who haven't chosen to take the risk?

[Yes Im Biop]

I have yet to see a good form of goverment. And No. NONONONONO.

[Volnotova]

They are necessary to maintain our current standard of life. Alcohol is not.

YOUR standard of life as a teetotaler.
MY standard of life includes drinking wine and beer, and also cooking with wine.

You're assuming everyone wants to live like you. And that no-one is able to handle what you can't or doesn't want to handle.

Hippostania in a nutshell:

"It is all about me and my own warped moral myopia."

Then it must be a coincidence that every single person who I've met who doesn't drink alcohol is 200% smarter than any person I know who drinks alcohol.

I might be a teetotalist my self, but I don't believe that because of that I am automatically 200% smarter than my peers.

[Byzantium Imperium]

No, and Hell No.

The weak bleating masses need a strong Shepard, that being said: Forward Autocracy!

[The Rich Port]

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

How exactly does drinking alcohol harm other's lives who haven't chosen to take the risk?

... Of all the oblivious questions ever asked by a person who posts on site that is populated by socially aware people...

You might as well be trying to breathe in the ocean without any gills.

[Zottistan]

When that decision affects the lifes of other people, then no. It is not.

How exactly does drinking alcohol harm other's lives who haven't chosen to take the risk?

Well, I hate to argue in favour of the enemy, but alcohol can damage the individual's perception of reality and lead to them harming others who may not have been drinking.

That doesn't mean you have to punish all the other people who just enjoy a nice glass of red wine every now and then (or people like me who spend much of their Sunday evening drinking vodka in the dark cursing about politicians). Those people don't hurt anyone.

[Great Nepal]

How exactly does drinking alcohol harm other's lives who haven't chosen to take the risk?

... Of all the oblivious questions ever asked by a person who posts on site that is populated by socially aware people...

You might as well be trying to breathe in the ocean without any gills.

Nope... for example:-
Drink Driving: A person decided to choose to take risk and step into the road. If s/he didn't do so, they wouldn't be hit by a drunk driver.
Drink fights: A person decided to choose to take risk and not run off when s/he ran off when they saw someone drinking. If s/he did do so, they wouldn't have been harmed.
etc.

Edit: No, not my logic.