Is democracy the only good form of government?

[Kalkutium]

If you think so is it right to instill democracy on nations by force.

[Cromarty]

No, and no.

[Ifreann]

Yes, and maybe. But what do you think[/farnhamia]

[Olthar]

Possibly, and no.

[Kvatchdom]

There are other good forms, and no. It cannot be forced.

[Gigaverse]

US Style? Roses are red, violets are blue, endure democracy or it will kill you.

No, no, and no.

[Atlannia]

ok, I was gonna say it's the best form I'm aware of, what viable alternatives exist? what are their pros and cons?

[Mavorpen]

No and no.

[Kemaliste]

Imperialists should look at themselves before invading the territories of oppressed nations for their resources.

And yes, democracy is necessary, but the people should desire for it after all.

Mohammad says; '' Each nation is ruled the way they deserve ''.

[ATTENTION DUELISTS]

Strictly speaking, no. Personally, I'd prefer to have a genius of a despot like Napoleon who rules for life, and who's just one of those people who simply know the solution to everything and improves close to everything in the life of the common citizen, making things turn out dandy. Some of the political parties and figures who pop up once every few years just makes me facepalm and fear for the day they're ever elected. But that's just me - everyone's different.

[Volnotova]

If you think so is it right to instill democracy on nations by force.

Yes, because a one-party totalitarian state currently committing cultural genocide will totally be better to have as the world hegemon than a liberal democracy. (sarcasm)

Liberal democracy? Ever compared the demographic make up of the House of "Commons" and the House of "Representatives" with the rest of the UK, respectively the U.S.?

Ever noticed the power of lobbyists and elites in charge of finance, media, capital and industry?

Ever noticed how the women:men ratio is off the balance? How many of the U.S. "Representatives" are multi-millionaires and even billionaires, their incomes far exceeding the average median income including having sizeable stakes in prominent multinational corporations(A la shadow president Dick Cheney and sir Bush)?

Ever noticed how they are much older then usual, more religious on average and have far less racial and cultural diversity, the latter which is supposedly one of the defining features of both the UK and the U.S.?

What was the last time there ever was a referendum or when people nationwide were asked to approve the budget?

How many times have you seen politicians lie about their promises, intentions, believes, etc. Just to get into power and exploit their offices for personal gain? Hiding behind petty regulations and their perceived authority in order to protect themselves and their associates?

Ever noticed how many claim their western economic powerhouses are free from authoritarianism, corruption and oppression and just around the corner you come to the realisation of how willing those politicians are to throw away their believes and personally advantage their close friends and allies? How often they thrust their desires and their world views down the throats of the people en messe, even to the dismay of their own electorate? Ever noticed how they claim we are free yet we cannot protest what we want, do what we want or say what we want if those same pseudo-aristocrats won't allow for it?

Western style "Liberal Democracy" is hollow, a cruel deception if you like.

And China is neither totalitarian nor a dictatorship. There isn't one person that has absolute and total authority, and excluding government [i]influence[i] in the economy China is a lot freer then you would expect.

Sources in a moment.

[Volnotova]

House of Commons demographic make up
Average salary UK MPs
Salaries members of House of Representatives Note that most of them are multi-millionaires, just like the average American citizen amright? Oh, and that 6 figure number doesn't even include the vast number of benefits.
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Demographic make up U.S. House of Representatives.

Compare to:

Demographics of the U.S.
Demographics of the UK
Report on U.S. incomes by the U.S. census bureau
Median income UK + other incomes

The statistics speak for themselves.

[Atlannia]

Strictly speaking, no. Personally, I'd prefer to have a genius of a despot like Napoleon who rules for life, and who's just one of those people who simply know the solution to everything and improves close to everything in the life of the common citizen, making things turn out dandy. Some of the political parties and figures who pop up once every few years just makes me facepalm and fear for the day they're ever elected. But that's just me - everyone's different.

Surely that's not sustainable, if you're relying on a genius to keep things running then after he's dead you have to find another one or the whole thing comes crashing down

[Yootwopia]

Probably. Shame, though.

[Hippostania]

Democracy is a good form of government as long as the citizens are educated and use it to achieve freedom. However, if people use democracy to elect fascist or leftist parties power which oppress the population, then it doesn't work. This is why liberal democracy works in countries like the US and the UK, but doesn't work in countries like Russia or Venezuela that should have an appointed parliament.

[Volnotova]

Democracy is a good form of government as long as the citizens are educated and use it to achieve freedom. However, if people use democracy to elect fascist or leftist parties power which oppress the population, then it doesn't work. This is why liberal democracy works in countries like the US and the UK, but doesn't work in countries like Russia or Venezuela that should have an appointed parliament.

Want to actually check my sources and my criticism for ones?

[Sidhae]

No. In fact, for most of history, Mankind has been ruled by non-democratic means with quite remarkable success.

And yes, it's obviously good to spread democracy - or whatever other lame excuse your leaders have thought up to justify their wars of aggression and attempts to despoil foreign nations of their resources - as long as your nation is the one spreading it and profiting from it. Of course, don't expect other nations to take it kindly either, and it doesn't do much good for the common man either, since it isn't you who's profiting in any way from it either.

[Khadgar]

Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others that have been tried from time to time.

And no, it shouldn't be forced.

[Yootwopia]

No. In fact, for most of history, Mankind has been ruled by non-democratic means with quite remarkable success.

Hmm not really, people couldn't drink the water without boiling it in much of the world until about halfway through last century.

[Hippostania]

Democracy is a good form of government as long as the citizens are educated and use it to achieve freedom. However, if people use democracy to elect fascist or leftist parties power which oppress the population, then it doesn't work. This is why liberal democracy works in countries like the US and the UK, but doesn't work in countries like Russia or Venezuela that should have an appointed parliament.

Want to actually check my sources and my criticism for ones?

I just decided to ignore it since.. well, that shit was dumb. But oh well, sure.

If people want male MP's, then they vote for male MP's. If people want white MP's, they for white MP's. If people want rich MP's, they vote for rich MP's. Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored. Sure, I understand that commies are pissed because their candidate who wants to tax everything and murder everyone who's successful only recieves seven votes every year, but you just gotta deal with it.

Besides, MP's are rich and succesful because they've done lots of work to achieve it. No one wants to have some loser who doesn't know anything in the Parliament. And MP's deserve a high salary because they do lots of work, and the work they do is very important. Simple as that.

[Gigaverse]

Democracy is a good form of government as long as the citizens are educated and use it to achieve freedom. However, if people use democracy to elect fascist or leftist parties power which oppress the population, then it doesn't work. This is why liberal democracy works in countries like the US and the UK, but doesn't work in countries like Russia or Venezuela that should have an appointed parliament.

UK, yes. US, not so much, I presume. You also forgot the typical example: Japan.

[Yootwopia]

Democracy is a good form of government as long as the citizens are educated and use it to achieve freedom. However, if people use democracy to elect fascist or leftist parties power which oppress the population, then it doesn't work. This is why liberal democracy works in countries like the US and the UK, but doesn't work in countries like Russia or Venezuela that should have an appointed parliament.

UK, yes.

What.

[Genivaria]

I think democracy is a good philosophy to have. But I actually support Democratic Republics.
Should it be "forced" upon other nations?
By forced do you mean killing a tyrant and freeing the people? Then yes.

[ATTENTION DUELISTS]

Strictly speaking, no. Personally, I'd prefer to have a genius of a despot like Napoleon who rules for life, and who's just one of those people who simply know the solution to everything and improves close to everything in the life of the common citizen, making things turn out dandy. Some of the political parties and figures who pop up once every few years just makes me facepalm and fear for the day they're ever elected. But that's just me - everyone's different.

Surely that's not sustainable, if you're relying on a genius to keep things running then after he's dead you have to find another one or the whole thing comes crashing down

I was thinking of a royal succession system where the ruler chooses his successor among his children not by birthright, but by merit and ability, while also ensuring that they're educated in all matters of state. But you're probably right in that respect. There's no guarantee that the successor will be as good as, or even surpass his (or her!) predecessor.

[Cromarty]

Just because people vote for something you don't like doesn't mean that their vote shouldn't be ignored.

OH THE IRONY.