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Postby Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:26 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Raeyh wrote:It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.


If that's what you got out of his posts, your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.


There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation


Hard to interpret that any other way.

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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:26 pm

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Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).


It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.

Drop it guys, admin already came in and warned us to drop the comparisons or risk getting banhammered and or threadlocked.


Admin just didn't want this to turn into a bestiality thread.

Yeah, but I'm still here. I'm aware of my faults, and I know that if this can turn into a thread about zoophilia, it will turn into a thread about zoophilia. Lure me not into temptation; let's just drop it.
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Postby Avalar » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:28 pm

Puerto Ale wrote:I think the problem with people who use religion as a reason for their homophobia have it wrong. For one, no where in any bible known to Christianity does it say that gays are sinners. For two, even if it did, the bible wasn't written by God. It was written by someone who is supposedly a messenger for God. Who's to say he didn't warp any of the messages to his own beliefs?


I'm going to have to disagree with the second point.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:28 pm

Raeyh wrote:
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If that's what you got out of his posts, your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.


There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation


Hard to interpret that any other way.

What in the blue hell are you arguing for against by using an unsourced quote from my post?
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:28 pm

Raeyh wrote:
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Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).


It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.

No, he's saying that what doesn't do you, or anyone else, harm is none of your goddamned business. Leave us alone.
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Postby The Pink Followers » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:28 pm

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That wasn't being mean, friend. I was providing an honest opinion. Sugarcoating =/= nice.

So because you don't like his opinion, his nonsugarcoating of his opinion becomes insulting?

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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:29 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
If that's what you got out of his posts, your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.


There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation


Hard to interpret that any other way.


No, it's not. Discriminating someone JUST for their color or JUST for their sexual orientation is wrong. Period. However, if someone does something bad, it doesn't matter. Let's say a black person steals from a bank. Can he say, "If you arrest me, that's racist!" and get off Scott free? No. Likewise, if someone has sex with a child without their consent, they can't say, "That's discrimination against my sexual orientation! You're infringing upon my rights!" and get a slap on the wrist. So again, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:29 pm

Anthonlandesia wrote:What can I say other than that it is a sad reflection on humanity that people think homosexuality(yes that includes lesbianism) is normal even though it is obviously a perversion and a sick one too like pedophilia, necrophilia, and zoophilia.

Ah, the Europeans have come to rape my Chinese culture once more. What is it that you guys want and what are you getting from all of this?

Fact is, homosexuality was accepted until some people were all scared and shit.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:29 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.



Admin just didn't want this to turn into a bestiality thread.

Yeah, but I'm still here. I'm aware of my faults, and I know that if this can turn into a thread about zoophilia, it will turn into a thread about zoophilia. Lure me not into temptation; let's just drop it.


Good idea.

Now, let's talk about Turians.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:31 pm

Liriena wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:Yeah, but I'm still here. I'm aware of my faults, and I know that if this can turn into a thread about zoophilia, it will turn into a thread about zoophilia. Lure me not into temptation; let's just drop it.


Good idea.

Now, let's talk about Turians.
What is it that makes them so unbelievably sexy? :P

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Well, so long as we're guys squeeing over Garrus, it's still on topic, right? :P
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:31 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Raeyh wrote:


Hard to interpret that any other way.


No, it's not. Discriminating someone JUST for their color or JUST for their sexual orientation is wrong. Period. However, if someone does something bad, it doesn't matter. Let's say a black person steals from a bank. Can he say, "If you arrest me, that's racist!" and get off Scott free? No. Likewise, if someone has sex with a child without their consent, they can't say, "That's discrimination against my sexual orientation! You're infringing upon my rights!" and get a slap on the wrist. So again, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.


So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?

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Postby Ryadn » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:32 pm

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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:33 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
No, it's not. Discriminating someone JUST for their color or JUST for their sexual orientation is wrong. Period. However, if someone does something bad, it doesn't matter. Let's say a black person steals from a bank. Can he say, "If you arrest me, that's racist!" and get off Scott free? No. Likewise, if someone has sex with a child without their consent, they can't say, "That's discrimination against my sexual orientation! You're infringing upon my rights!" and get a slap on the wrist. So again, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.


So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?

Assuming he also has no criminal intent, and is perfectly OK with his paraphilias? Yes. So, in fact, does the World Health Organization and the American Psychiatric Association.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:33 pm

Raeyh wrote:So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?


Yes. But it's nice you are moving the goal post.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:33 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Good idea.

Now, let's talk about Turians.
What is it that makes them so unbelievably sexy? :P

I kid, I kid

Well, so long as we're guys squeeing over Garrus, it's still on topic, right? :P


Yeah :P

Oh, god, Garrus' voice... :blush: I hadn't heard such a sexy, squee-inducing voice since Sean Connery's performance in "The Hunt for the Red October".

A pity that us humans can't...ingest
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Postby The Pink Followers » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:33 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
No, it's not. Discriminating someone JUST for their color or JUST for their sexual orientation is wrong. Period. However, if someone does something bad, it doesn't matter. Let's say a black person steals from a bank. Can he say, "If you arrest me, that's racist!" and get off Scott free? No. Likewise, if someone has sex with a child without their consent, they can't say, "That's discrimination against my sexual orientation! You're infringing upon my rights!" and get a slap on the wrist. So again, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.


So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?

Sure, why not?
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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:33 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Good idea.

Now, let's talk about Turians.
What is it that makes them so unbelievably sexy? :P

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Well, so long as we're guys squeeing over Garrus, it's still on topic, right? :P

I Wonder if his sister is as manly as he is.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:34 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
No, it's not. Discriminating someone JUST for their color or JUST for their sexual orientation is wrong. Period. However, if someone does something bad, it doesn't matter. Let's say a black person steals from a bank. Can he say, "If you arrest me, that's racist!" and get off Scott free? No. Likewise, if someone has sex with a child without their consent, they can't say, "That's discrimination against my sexual orientation! You're infringing upon my rights!" and get a slap on the wrist. So again, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.


So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?

Everyday I'm backpedaling, backpedaling. Backpedaling backpedaling.
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:34 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Raeyh wrote:So if you came across someone who admitted he lusts after corpses, animals, and children, but never actually had sex with them, you would think that he is a swell guy and nothing is wrong with him whatsoever?


Yes. But it's nice you are moving the goal post.


I just assumed you wouldn't, so I was wrong there.

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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:Well, so long as we're guys squeeing over Garrus, it's still on topic, right? :P


Yeah :P

Oh, god, Garrus' voice... :blush: I hadn't heard such a sexy, quee voice since Sean Connery's performance in "The Hunt for the Red October".

A pity that us humans can't...ingest

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Postby Ryadn » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Norstal wrote:
Anthonlandesia wrote:What can I say other than that it is a sad reflection on humanity that people think homosexuality(yes that includes lesbianism) is normal even though it is obviously a perversion and a sick one too like pedophilia, necrophilia, and zoophilia.

Ah, the Europeans have come to rape my Chinese culture once more. What is it that you guys want and what are you getting from all of this?

Fact is, homosexuality was accepted until some people were all scared and shit.


Not disputing anything, but it looks like all of the information in that article was taken from a single source, probably the author of the wiki page.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:35 pm

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Yes. But it's nice you are moving the goal post.


I just assumed you wouldn't, so I was wrong there.

Why would you assume that? I'm not a bigot.
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Postby Avalar » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:36 pm

Norstal wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:Well, so long as we're guys squeeing over Garrus, it's still on topic, right? :P

I Wonder if his sister is as manly as he is.


:rofl:
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Postby New Heathera » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:36 pm

Anthonlandesia wrote:What can I say other than that it is a sad reflection on humanity that people think homosexuality(yes that includes lesbianism) is normal even though it is obviously a perversion and a sick one too like pedophilia, necrophilia, and zoophilia. It is a fact that violence and even murder and rape much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community. It is also fact that they are more sexually promiscuous and much more likely to carry stds. I think that it is time for the misconception that homosexuality(and lesbianism) is okay to come to an end. And here are just a few of my sources.

EDIT: As for those that same homosexuality is normal because some animals do it. Well rape, cannibalism, and murder have witnessed among animals as well. Should we accept those as normal too and legalize those things as well?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msm ... lease.html

http://www.narth.com/docs/domestic.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357


Murder and cannibalism doesn't relate to homosexuality. :roll: Cut they "purge he who is not like us!" routine and be more tolerant. You'll live longer.

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