Huge misconception about homosexuality

[Mavorpen]

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

It's not a sexual perversion, so this entire post is bull.

[Liriena]

And? This does not mean that homosexuality causes distress, nor should we ever claim it does simply because society factors in.

People are distressed from being homosexual. What more proof do you need?

Some are distressed from being homosexual, but the solution psychologists endorse for said ailment is therapy that leads to the acceptance of the subject's homosexuality.
Meanwhile, MOST homosexuals are not distressed by their homosexuality.

[1000 Cats]

Except year by year, decade by decade LGBT status has become more and more normal in the United States. Just like certain racial biases there will be minority fringe groups who have a problem with it, but the strides made since the 1980s (and the Reagan's blatant ignoring of the AIDS crisis) have been remarkable and far-reaching. It's a fallacy and incredibly pessimistic to think that this stigmatization of LGBT individuals will persist to the degree it does today.

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

Well, I guess that's that, then. Let's go home, boys and girls.

Oh, wait. Homosexuality has actually been accepted in the past, you say? The intense homophobia we see today is actually quite a new thing in human society and is mainly restricted to regions that are or once were dominated by Abrahamic religions? Never mind; I think this party can last a little longer! Beer's in the fridge.

[Raeyh]

We're also supposed to be vigilant of car accidents, but an intense fear of vehicles is not normal.

Really, you should be, though. Otherwise you could just walk out into the middle of traffic without thinking about it. I know I have been careless around traffic in the past. I should probably be more afraid of cars than I am. I sort of had to suppress my fear of cars to learn how to drive one.

We can get rid of society's issues with homosexuality. Seriously, the WHO and the APA do not and cannot identify everything that you think is fucked up as a mental disorder. It's your social problem

Like they got rid of racism and sexism? It's been proven that society is pretty stubborn.

For one thing, I'm talking about people who are entirely separated from their lovers, ie through death, family ostracization, whatever. For another, that makes no sense whatsoever. If you stay in touch with the people you love, you are less likely to experience illness for them. That's why they allow prisoners visitors in the first place.

If you say so.

[Liriena]

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

Well, I guess that's that, then. Let's go home, boys and girls.

Oh, wait. Homosexuality has actually been accepted in the past, you say? The intense homophobia we see today is actually quite a new thing in human society and is mainly restricted to regions that are or once were dominated by Abrahamic religions? Never mind; I think this party can last a little longer! Beer's in the fridge.

Can you make me a mojito and a sammich? I don't like beer.

[Moon Cows]

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

Well, I guess that's that, then. Let's go home, boys and girls.

Oh, wait. Homosexuality has actually been accepted in the past, you say? The intense homophobia we see today is actually quite a new thing in human society and is mainly restricted to regions that are or once were dominated by Abrahamic religions? Never mind; I think this party can last a little longer! Beer's in the fridge.

I'm opposed to alcohol consumption.

Are you referring to the Greeks? I hope you know that those men and boys still got married and had sex with females. Being openly, exclusively gay was not accepted in any culture I've heard of.

[Northern Dominus]

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

You know what's perverted? You trying to bash people over the head with your holier-than-though grandstanding even though you completely ignore the messages of "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" or "Practicing your faith in public doesn't get you into heaven faster".
You're the perversion here, your notion that by attempting to strip common decency and dignity away from other human beings who just HAPPEN to not conform to an antiquated set of mores that it makes you just in some fashion. You and your ilk are the morally bankrupt ones for such perversions of humanity and decency.

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

[The Pink Followers]

Except year by year, decade by decade LGBT status has become more and more normal in the United States. Just like certain racial biases there will be minority fringe groups who have a problem with it, but the strides made since the 1980s (and the Reagan's blatant ignoring of the AIDS crisis) have been remarkable and far-reaching. It's a fallacy and incredibly pessimistic to think that this stigmatization of LGBT individuals will persist to the degree it does today.

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

We aren't talking about heritage with the comparison; We are talking about parts of ourselves that we cannot change.

[Raeyh]

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

[1000 Cats]

We're also supposed to be vigilant of car accidents, but an intense fear of vehicles is not normal.

Really, you should be, though. Otherwise you could just walk out into the middle of traffic without thinking about it. I know I have been careless around traffic in the past. I should probably be more afraid of cars than I am. I sort of had to suppress my fear of cars to learn how to drive one.

Me too. So I think we can both agree that there is such a thing as an irrational fear of vehicles. There is also such a thing as an irrational fear of pedophiles, and it is quite widespread: I took a little poll before, years ago, just for kicks, and most people said that they would be afraid to even just be in the same room as someone they knew was a pedophile.

We can get rid of society's issues with homosexuality. Seriously, the WHO and the APA do not and cannot identify everything that you think is fucked up as a mental disorder. It's your social problem

Like they got rid of racism and sexism? It's been proven that society is pretty stubborn.

Racism and sexism seem to be hard-wired. Homophobia, given many practices of society all around the world, is not.

For one thing, I'm talking about people who are entirely separated from their lovers, ie through death, family ostracization, whatever. For another, that makes no sense whatsoever. If you stay in touch with the people you love, you are less likely to experience illness for them. That's why they allow prisoners visitors in the first place.

If you say so.

I do.

[Liriena]

Well, I guess that's that, then. Let's go home, boys and girls.

Oh, wait. Homosexuality has actually been accepted in the past, you say? The intense homophobia we see today is actually quite a new thing in human society and is mainly restricted to regions that are or once were dominated by Abrahamic religions? Never mind; I think this party can last a little longer! Beer's in the fridge.

I'm opposed to alcohol consumption.

Are you referring to the Greeks? I hope you know that those men and boys still got married and had sex with females. Being openly, exclusively gay was not accepted in any culture I've heard of.

The Greeks, the Romans and the medieval Japanese endorsed homosexual love so long as it wasn't exclusive (meaning, they endorsed bisexuality in men).
Meanwhile, some parts of China and Pre-colonial America had some forms of same-sex marriage, and in India (with the Vedas saying nothing against homosexuality, and the tenets of Hinduism promoting sexual pleasure and love) homosexuality was mostly a non-issue (although in India homosexuals were considered a third gender, not men and women with a distinct orientation).

[1000 Cats]

Well, I guess that's that, then. Let's go home, boys and girls.

Oh, wait. Homosexuality has actually been accepted in the past, you say? The intense homophobia we see today is actually quite a new thing in human society and is mainly restricted to regions that are or once were dominated by Abrahamic religions? Never mind; I think this party can last a little longer! Beer's in the fridge.

I'm opposed to alcohol consumption.

Are you referring to the Greeks? I hope you know that those men and boys still got married and had sex with females. Being openly, exclusively gay was not accepted in any culture I've heard of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

[Mavorpen]

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).

[Avalar]

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

Not really. but Necrophilia creeps me out and pedophilia is kinda wrong

[Farnhamia]

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So...if he won't stop evil (even evil acts committed by his own religion), doesn't interact with the world at all, and still supposedly regrets that some humans are evil, why bother with all the worship business?

I didn't say he doesn't interact with the world. He does, In the Bible it was usually only to protect his chosen people. And then to send Christ. Little Miracles.

Like a father. He doesn't stop us from making our own decisions but he guides us towards his plan. Like a Shepard, He will bring us back to the path he desires, but we have the choice to stray.

No one should worship God to make change in the world, He may act, but he may not he has a plan that any change must be accommodated to, instead one should worship God to make changes to themselves. Worship is not rewarded in life as Job, as many other prophets demonstrate, but in the hereafter.

And it does make a difference.

If you see yourself as one of Yahweh's sheep, or as one of his children, fine. I know who my father is and he taught me not to trust anyone who tells you they have a plan, but won't tell you what it is. Having to wait until one dies sort of spoils the illusion, don't you think? But your faith is your own. I'll pass.

[Moon Cows]

One of the things I cannot stand about the homosexual/LGBTasdfghjkl; agenda is the fact that they constantly compare it to racial prejudices. Sexual perversions and your heritage are two different things. I'm not quite certain if you know this, but social conservatism is not going away. As long as there are homosexuals, there will be the good people that oppose them. (And other morally questionable sins of lust.)

You know what's perverted? You trying to bash people over the head with your holier-than-though grandstanding even though you completely ignore the messages of "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" or "Practicing your faith in public doesn't get you into heaven faster".
You're the perversion here, your notion that by attempting to strip common decency and dignity away from other human beings who just HAPPEN to not conform to an antiquated set of mores that it makes you just in some fashion. You and your ilk are the morally bankrupt ones for such perversions of humanity and decency.

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

Be nice to everyone, dear. You may get a positive response.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

This ^

[Northern Dominus]

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).

Drop it guys, admin already came in and warned us to drop the comparisons or risk getting banhammered and or threadlocked.

[Mavorpen]

Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).

Drop it guys, admin already came in and warned us to drop the comparisons or risk getting banhammered and or threadlocked.

No duh, that's why I'm saying enough with this.

[Raeyh]

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

Okay, enough with this. Those all cause harms to others (the exception being zoophilia).

It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.

Drop it guys, admin already came in and warned us to drop the comparisons or risk getting banhammered and or threadlocked.

Admin just didn't want this to turn into a bestiality thread.

[Farnhamia]

You know what's perverted? You trying to bash people over the head with your holier-than-though grandstanding even though you completely ignore the messages of "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" or "Practicing your faith in public doesn't get you into heaven faster".
You're the perversion here, your notion that by attempting to strip common decency and dignity away from other human beings who just HAPPEN to not conform to an antiquated set of mores that it makes you just in some fashion. You and your ilk are the morally bankrupt ones for such perversions of humanity and decency.

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

Be nice to everyone, dear. You may get a positive response.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

This ^

Be nice to everyone? Practice what you preach.

[Liriena]

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

So you have no problem with necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc? It's their sexual orientation.

Necrophiliac, pedophiliac and necrophiliac individuals should not be discriminated for their orientation/fetish/attraction.
However, necrophiliac, zoophiliac and pedophiliac acts can and must be discriminated because in all three cases one of the parts involved is incapable to provide consent, which is a basic for human law (1000 Cats, feel free to differ)

Homosexual acts, in general, do not violate the principle of consent (and when it does, it's rape, plain and simple)

[Puerto Ale]

I think the problem with people who use religion as a reason for their homophobia have it wrong. For one, no where in any bible known to Christianity does it say that gays are sinners. For two, even if it did, the bible wasn't written by God. It was written by someone who is supposedly a messenger for God. Who's to say he didn't warp any of the messages to his own beliefs?

[Northern Dominus]

You know what's perverted? You trying to bash people over the head with your holier-than-though grandstanding even though you completely ignore the messages of "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" or "Practicing your faith in public doesn't get you into heaven faster".
You're the perversion here, your notion that by attempting to strip common decency and dignity away from other human beings who just HAPPEN to not conform to an antiquated set of mores that it makes you just in some fashion. You and your ilk are the morally bankrupt ones for such perversions of humanity and decency.

There is no distinction between the persecution of human beings based on the color of the skin or for their sexual orientation. Persecution and bigotry is persecution and bigotry, and justification of one is the same as justifying the other, period.

Be nice to everyone, dear. You may get a positive response.

I am under no obligation to be nice to anybody and I called what you wrote as it is, hunnie, morally bankrupt and perverted.

Despite the mountains of evidence that state everything contrary to your claims, despite overwhelming historical evidence that homosexuality was not a big issue as it is today, and in spite of the growing acceptance of LGBT members as normal, you decide to spout off the usual drivel and diatribe without even an unbiased source. Mainly because there isn't one.

[Mavorpen]

It's not harm that's the issue, it's the fact he thinks sexual orientation is sacred and should not be questioned no matter what.

If that's what you got out of his posts, your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.

[Moon Cows]

Be nice to everyone? Practice what you preach.

That wasn't being mean, friend. I was providing an honest opinion. Sugarcoating =/= nice.