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by Salvarity » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:04 pm

by Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:06 pm
Raeyh wrote:Except that zoophilia, pedophila, and necrophilia all have ICD-10 codes and are registered disorders, while homosexuality doesn't and isn't. You've established a false duality.
Here's the ICD-10 as of 2010. Read it. Learn it. Know it. That's what medical professionals refer to, and it's the product of collaboration between reputable medical professionals from across the globe. Stop reading that bunch of gobbledeygook from the pseudoscientists at NARTH.
It used to be one, though. You can't use politics to prove a point.

by Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:07 pm
Socialdemokraterne wrote:Do you have any idea how many hands the ICD has to go through to be revised? Any idea at all? Your accusation of politically-motivated removal of homosexuality from the ICD-10 borders on madness.

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:08 pm

by The Nuclear Fist » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:14 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:14 pm

by Condunum » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:17 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why must the arguments against homosexuality always be religious? For once, I'd like one to be non-religious. It wouldn't be any less bullshit, but it'd at least be a breath of fresh air.
Also, what's the big deal about sexual promiscuity?

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:18 pm

by Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:18 pm
Raeyh wrote:It's more like special interest groups in general, but yeah.

by The Merchant Republics » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:19 pm
Volnotova wrote:Bit cowardly of some to call me a fag in TG.
Anyway.
I am also interested in what Mooncow has to say about the origin of evil, free will and how they work.
And how can God be omnipresent and not be cruel if it did nothing to stop the Holocaust, Holodomor, Unit 571, Crusades, etc.?

by Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:19 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why must the arguments against homosexuality always be religious? For once, I'd like one to be non-religious. It wouldn't be any less bullshit, but it'd at least be a breath of fresh air.
Also, what's the big deal about sexual promiscuity?


by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:19 pm

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:20 pm

by Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:21 pm
Sorry, but you're going to have to provide some sauce for a claim that outrageous.

by Cu Math » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:21 pm

by The Nuclear Fist » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:22 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:22 pm
Raeyh wrote:Uganda has a big pull in the international community?

by Arbites » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:23 pm
The Merchant Republics wrote:Volnotova wrote:Bit cowardly of some to call me a fag in TG.
Anyway.
I am also interested in what Mooncow has to say about the origin of evil, free will and how they work.
And how can God be omnipresent and not be cruel if it did nothing to stop the Holocaust, Holodomor, Unit 571, Crusades, etc.?
The problem with calling God cruel is that it requires one maintaining that there is an objective morality which is not from God.
That said, it's certain this is not the world God wanted, I don't think this proves that God isn't all-powerful, all-knowing or all-seeing, merely that he made decisions that he regrets. He knew He must do them, but He regrets.
Remember that the God of the Bible considers humanity to be his children. His actions in flood roughly represent God killing his own children because they were evil. Yet it's clear He regrets needing to do that. The crux however is that His regret is not a regret for His failure, but a regret for ours. We are the one's who became evil, launched the Crusades, started the Holocaust, enslaved the Jews, and more. He regrets needing to discipline us, but he doesn't regret infusing us with the spirit to rebel against him.
You can make no mistake that God wept over the Holocaust, but did He do anything to stop it from happening? No, because He doesn't want to control us, He wants us to be family, not merely servants and puppets like the Angel.
Consider the prodigal son, God doesn't stop His children from leaving his grace, but He knows that away from Him is evil. He will not stop them from rebelling, but He welcomes us back when we have realized our follies.

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:24 pm

by Liriena » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:24 pm
Volnotova wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why must the arguments against homosexuality always be religious? For once, I'd like one to be non-religious. It wouldn't be any less bullshit, but it'd at least be a breath of fresh air.
Also, what's the big deal about sexual promiscuity?
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by Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:25 pm
Raeyh wrote:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=special+interest+groups+control+everything

by SaintB » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:25 pm
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