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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:32 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, I respect, er, Zoos, but I still believe fucking animals is wrong. I don't think they want our genitalia in their faces.

They don't, and for the record, I disagree with that as well. They much prefer having their genitalia in our faces.

You stole my post before I could post it. >:

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Postby Wisconsin7 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:32 pm

Moon Cows wrote: I suggest you read this article: Reliability of Wikpedia Always second guess that information.

Using Wikipedia to explain why Wikipedia is untrustworthy?
Seems legit.
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Postby Viva Forever » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:33 pm

Well I'm gay and I pretty much gaurentee the original poster would not have the balls to say any of his warped and unenlightened views to my face. So ridiculous that people still actually have such dumb beliefs. Hopefully we can look back in a couple of years and laugh at how crazy homophobes were.

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Postby Moon Cows » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:33 pm

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Moon Cows wrote: I suggest you read this article: Reliability of Wikpedia Always second guess that information.


So Wikipedia is more reliable than Encyclopedia Britannica.


Wikipedia had 40+ more listed mistakes in the few articles they selected.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:34 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:"You sic twisted.... ARGH!"
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Don't get me wrong, I respect, er, Zoos, but I still believe fucking animals is wrong. I don't think they want our genitalia in their faces.

They don't, and for the record, I disagree with that as well. They much prefer having their genitalia in our faces.

So you do this with your cats?
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Postby Cu Math » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:34 pm

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Cu Math wrote:Errrrm thats actually a territory thing...dogs mate back to back. The humping is a way of marking territory and dominance that often occurs between male dogs (so those dogs doing the doggy thing.....aren't exactly having sex)


...Where do you get your info, youtube? Dogs stay rump-to-rump only because of the "knot" at the base of the males penis. There's a gland there that swells during intercourse and ties the two together. Please, do a bit or research before spitting this stuff out T.T".

I did, and please don''t insult my intelligence by claiming i do not understand things, you actually gave no contradiction to my statement, so please read what I say and mean first, before a bilious wrath ensues.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:34 pm

Cu Math wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:Dogs don't mate back to back. What you're observing is the male dog getting tired after he's knotted, after copulation. Doggy style is a real thing.

But from what i have read, most of the time, doggy style is territorial (rabbits do it too)
Huh, guess i should defer to you though, since from what i have heard of you, you are the one of the most knowledgeable people here on matters zoological (and i do not mean that in a sexual sense)

Just about all quadrupeds do it. It's copulatory.

As far as male-male homosexual activity, it's not just for marking or dominance either; there is often penetration involved, I know at least in dogs, donkeys, deer, and lions. Furthermore, homosexual males will exhibit the same, "come get me" behaviours, like strutting and calling, that females do; it's certainly not the case of "rape" as it would be if it were purely a dominance thing.
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:35 pm

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:They don't, and for the record, I disagree with that as well. They much prefer having their genitalia in our faces.

You stole my post before I could post it. >:

Enough with the threadjack.

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Postby Moon Cows » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:35 pm

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Moon Cows wrote: I suggest you read this article: Reliability of Wikpedia Always second guess that information.

Using Wikipedia to explain why Wikipedia is untrustworthy?
Seems legit.


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Postby The Merchant Republics » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote: Most most of those passages relate to Sodom and Gomorrah, but it depends which parts of the bible you follow: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)


FUN FACT:
This is the literal translation of Leviticus 18:22 from its original Hebrew:

"And with a male you shall not lie the lying down of a woman."

I don't see gay sex anywhere. Do you? So let's all shut up and have some buttsecks. Case closed. :p

And the traditional Jewish view is that Sodom and Gomorrah's sin were economic, and that their tale is mostly a moral on the value of hospitality.


Leviticus, as the name alludes is a list of restrictions for Levites. The Jewish priestly class. While most Jews observed it and it contained things important to the canonical reading of the Bible, it applies no more to gentiles than the rules of Kosher.

The Bible is very clear, it's not okay to be gay, if you are Jewish Priest who keeps kosher and wears clothes of only one type of linen or if you're a horrible person trying to rape and murder angels. And Paul's letter to the Corinthians might possible expand that to include that it's not okay to be a male child prostitute and that' it is not ok to have sex with anyone but your spouse while married; including men.
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Postby Atalem » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:36 pm

...I really don't care what sexuality people hold.

Of course, when I say I'm asexual, nobody ever believes me...

...even though it's true. :(

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:36 pm

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The Merchant Republics wrote:Even if the study that proposes that homosexual relationships have greater rates of violence and abuse than heterosexual relationships is indeed credible. I don't understand how that supports the idea that homosexuality should be illegal.

Being married to a police officer or soldier also carries a greater risk of domestic abuse, and yet, should marriage to a cop be illegal?

As a Christian (not despite of it), it is my strong belief that homosexuals must be accepted into society. Indeed, I think this study only supports that idea. A more open homosexual community would allow for greater visibility of domestic abuse. I even support gay marriage, though I don't consider it a true marriage ordained by God, I would prefer that people put commitment over simple lust, whomever their partners may be.


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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:36 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Liriena wrote:


FUN FACT:
This is the literal translation of Leviticus 18:22 from its original Hebrew:

"And with a male you shall not lie the lying down of a woman."

I don't see gay sex anywhere. Do you? So let's all shut up and have some buttsecks. Case closed. :p

And the traditional Jewish view is that Sodom and Gomorrah's sin were economic, and that their tale is mostly a moral on the value of hospitality.


Leviticus, as the name alludes is a list of restrictions for Levites. The Jewish priestly class. While most Jews observed it and it contained things important to the canonical reading of the Bible, it applies no more to gentiles than the rules of Kosher.

The Bible is very clear, it's not okay to be gay, if you are Jewish Priest who keeps kosher and wears clothes of only one type of linen or if you're a horrible person trying to rape and murder angels. And Paul's letter to the Corinthians might possible expand that to include that it's not okay to be a male child prostitute and that' it is not ok to have sex with anyone but your spouse while married; including men.


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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:37 pm

Moon Cows wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
So Wikipedia is more reliable than Encyclopedia Britannica.


Wikipedia had 40+ more listed mistakes in the few articles they selected.

You seem to have completely ignored what I said. Unless you think those mistakes in Wikipedia are also mistakes in the scholarly sources cited by Wikipedia.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:37 pm

Moon Cows wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
So Wikipedia is more reliable than Encyclopedia Britannica.


Wikipedia had 40+ more listed mistakes in the few articles they selected.


And that is one of the 40+ mistakes.
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:39 pm

Moon Cows wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:Using Wikipedia to explain why Wikipedia is untrustworthy?
Seems legit.


;)

It was not a joke. Oh, no. Conservatives don't have senses of humor. Humor is a sin.

I didn't say it was a joke. Just implied that it was extremely idiotic.
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:44 pm

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Ok, since my minor grumblings and edits didn't work, I'll start shouting.

The topic is homosexuality, not 1000 Cats preferences, not bestiality and/or zoophilia. This is the end of the line for that threadjack and it WILL stop here because the next post won't just be edited, it will see the poster warned.

The Topic folks,
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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:51 pm

Sorry, NERV. I have trouble letting things go sometimes. I'll back out, myself.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Bit cowardly of some to call me a fag in TG.

Anyway.

I am also interested in what Mooncow has to say about the origin of evil, free will and how they work.

And how can God be omnipresent and not be cruel if it did nothing to stop the Holocaust, Holodomor, Unit 571, Crusades, etc.?
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Postby Cu Math » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:56 pm

Volnotova wrote:Bit cowardly of some to call me a fag in TG.

Anyway.

I am also interested in what Mooncow has to say about the origin of evil, free will and how they work.

And how can God be omnipresent and not be cruel if it did nothing to stop the Holocaust, Holodomor, Unit 571, Crusades, etc.?

Ever played the sims? Explains why god likes evil: schadenfreude
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:57 pm

Anthonlandesia wrote:What can I say other than that it is a sad reflection on humanity that people think homosexuality(yes that includes lesbianism) is normal even though it is obviously a perversion and a sick one too like pedophilia, necrophilia, and zoophilia.


Except that zoophilia, pedophila, and necrophilia all have ICD-10 codes and are registered disorders, while homosexuality doesn't and isn't. You've established a false duality.

Here's the ICD-10 as of 2010. Read it. Learn it. Know it. That's what medical professionals refer to, and it's the product of collaboration between reputable medical professionals from across the globe. Stop reading that bunch of gobbledeygook from the pseudoscientists at NARTH.

http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... se/2010/en

It is a fact that violence and even murder and rape much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community.


You saw a UCLA study that showed high incidences of domestic violence (which is neither rape nor murder, by the way) and just assumed the rest. You assumed that the sexual orientation was the causative agent for the increased incidence of violence, a claim that the UCLA study did not make. Despite the fact that incidences of domestic violence were shown to be higher in homosexuals' and bisexuals' populations than in heterosexuals', there is not an automatic case of entailment that sexual orientation is the root cause. You've provided an interesting piece of data, but nothing useful for your argument that homosexuals are more violent than heterosexuals by default. Sorry.

It is also fact that they are more sexually promiscuous and much more likely to carry stds.


Even if this is true, so what? It's not the government's job to control peoples' sexual practices, nor is it private society's. If people want to be promiscuous, they're accepting the risks associated with that behavior. It's entirely their business. We already have rules in place to punish people who hide the fact that they're carrying transmissible, life-threatening diseases from their partners, so what else business is it of yours? Get your nose out of their business, you busybody.

I think that it is time for the misconception that homosexuality(and lesbianism) is okay to come to an end.


And from my analysis of your sources, you pretty much base this claim on absolutely nothing.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:58 pm

Cu Math wrote:
Volnotova wrote:Bit cowardly of some to call me a fag in TG.

Anyway.

I am also interested in what Mooncow has to say about the origin of evil, free will and how they work.

And how can God be omnipresent and not be cruel if it did nothing to stop the Holocaust, Holodomor, Unit 571, Crusades, etc.?

Ever played the sims? Explains why god likes evil: schadenfreude


I was more thinking about a certain indifference and tendency to inflict terrible and unbearable suffering.
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Postby Coccygia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:00 pm

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Cu Math wrote:Ever played the sims? Explains why god likes evil: schadenfreude


I was more thinking about a certain indifference and tendency to inflict terrible and unbearable suffering.

Read the book of Job. Jehovah likes to make bets with Satan. :twisted:
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:02 pm

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I was more thinking about a certain indifference and tendency to inflict terrible and unbearable suffering.

Read the book of Job. Jehovah likes to make bets with Satan. :twisted:


Rather moot if you think about it, being that God is supposedly omniscient. ;)
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:03 pm

Except that zoophilia, pedophila, and necrophilia all have ICD-10 codes and are registered disorders, while homosexuality doesn't and isn't. You've established a false duality.

Here's the ICD-10 as of 2010. Read it. Learn it. Know it. That's what medical professionals refer to, and it's the product of collaboration between reputable medical professionals from across the globe. Stop reading that bunch of gobbledeygook from the pseudoscientists at NARTH.


It used to be one, though. You can't use politics to prove a point.

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