Huge misconception about homosexuality

[Pielandia]

In my honest opinion, I dislike the idea of homosexuality and the whole premise behind it. Sometimes I'd go far enough to say it is a choice, but that usually pisses people off.

Furthermore, infringing on peoples rights whether they be homosexual or heterosexual is of no moral credibility. If it doesn't hurt other people, let them be.
That also means no more gay pride parades.

Why no more gay pride parades?

It makes people uncomfortable, and have meeting dozens of homosexuals in my lifetime, they usually despise and refuse to associate with the abomination that is a "gay pride parade".

Gay pride parades are the exact reason a large number of heterosexuals dislike homosexuals.

[Volnotova]

Can anyone here legitimately prove that homosexuality is abnormal and thus must be ridded of?...any takers...no?...thought so...when you show me proof that it's bad then I'll start to be anti-gay...

Women's rights was thought to be a bad idea too until everyone said otherwise

Abolition was thought to be bad until people started to think other wise

The world was flat and the sun revolved around the sun was true until people started to think otherwise

Please provide a better argument than religion and a few cheap quotes...I can start a pro-gay argument...

I know gay people...they're nice as hack (ehh one's an a-hole but hey that's HUMAN)...
Being gay hasn't been linked to oppression and infringement on right...*COUGH*CHRISTIANITY* COUGH*...
They consent to their ways...
Only people who are against them are conservatives and the religious right...and they're credible? Lawl.

I am a member of the religious right and do not view homosexuality as sinful or abhorrent.

Well, the other religious "right". The one that doesn't consist of strict adherents of the canon of Hebrew mythology and the warped misinterpretations of Saul of Tarsus.

[1000 Cats]

In my honest opinion, I dislike the idea of homosexuality and the whole premise behind it. Sometimes I'd go far enough to say it is a choice, but that usually pisses people off.

That's because you'd be wrong. At least, according to scientists.

Homosexuality is believed by modern psychologists to be the result of chemical imbalances within the womb, making it neither genetic nor choice. Unfortunately, I won't give you a source for that- I'd be spending hours going back into my lecture notes and research to find it exactly, and I CBA to do that.

Actually, most believe it to be due to early life experiences interacting with genetics and potentially other biological factors. It's complex.

[San-Silvacian]

It was actually, at least a decade or so ago, scientifically observable and shown in many studies that homosexuals were more promiscuous on average than heterosexuals. Explanations given included: (1) They can't get married, and (2) Homosexuality was, and still is in many places, a difficult thing to acknowledge and come out about; once someone has done that, being promiscuous is just sort of the icing on the ostracization cake.

I don't know if those statistics still hold today. I imagine they do in some areas but not in others.

Also, it looks like I recently hit 5000. Congratulate me, damn it.

Well yes, homosexuals have more sex than heterosexuals. Like I said, though, that's because you have two male libidos.

What? This is false, I knew a guy who was rarely horny and ghey.

Apparently I missed out.

Those who are avidly against homosexuality are typically the best homosexuals.

So I ask the OP...

asl?

[Volnotova]

Well yes, homosexuals have more sex than heterosexuals. Like I said, though, that's because you have two male libidos.

What? This is false, I knew a guy who was rarely horny and ghey.

Apparently I missed out.

Those who are avidly against homosexuality are typically the best homosexuals.

So I ask the OP...

asl?

I would first like to see pictures. If he looks any good and lives close-by...

[Moon Cows]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice. Animals have no concept of sexuality, and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual. Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

[Pielandia]

In my honest opinion, I dislike the idea of homosexuality and the whole premise behind it. Sometimes I'd go far enough to say it is a choice, but that usually pisses people off.

That's because you'd be wrong. At least, according to scientists.

Homosexuality is believed by modern psychologists to be the result of chemical imbalances within the womb, making it neither genetic nor choice. Unfortunately, I won't give you a source for that- I'd be spending hours going back into my lecture notes and research to find it exactly, and I CBA to do that.

Yes, I've seen that video and found it quite interesting, I myself did some research on it and found it to be fact.

The choice I was referring to was the social concept that being gay is no "in", tons of teenagers are now flocking to the idea of being homosexual for attention or just to be unique. I'll try and make a comparison, homosexuality is like being a hipster.

[Pielandia]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice. Animals have no concept of sexuality, and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual. Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

I sincerely hope that first line was satire.

[NERVUN]

Seriously, how many times are you going to keep posting this in General? This is, IIRC, the 4th time we've seen this from you.

[1000 Cats]

This guy is still around?

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice.

Bonobos, actually, use sex as a means of calming down and strengthening relations. So quarrels specifically do result in sex. That's how they're solved.

Animals have no concept of sexuality, and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual.

Actually, if you talk to goat farmers, exclusive homosexuality among breeding animals is quite a problem. About ten percent of rams, I'm told, only ever have sex with other rams.

Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

Right... so, your guesswork and false claims are better than case studies and statistics. Got you.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

Based on what?

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

Your god, as you see him, doesn't exist. If he did, the entire world would have burnt to a crisp by now in his righteous rage.

[Merhabi]

I have to agree on some points with the OP. He/She/Toolazytocheck could have handled such a delicate subject better, but I agree that we as a society need to stop encouraging homosexuality in children, homosexuality as an acceptable life choice is only setting people up for a world of pain and rejection.

I know you'll all get pissed at me for this, and I kind of want to do the socially acceptable thing and say that homosexuality is fine and should be accepted and encouraged and that repressed sexuality is bad and all that jazz. But on the other hand I want to be honest, this is the internet after all, and what good is anonymity except for full disclosure? I try not to hate on them buttsecksers and dykes, but I also never ever EVER let them tell me that they are in fact interested solely in their own sex.

As a Devout Muslim, I am technically required to stone homosexuals to death. I am not required to hate them or discriminate against them. My logic is that if I don't know for sure that they are homosexual, if I have not witnessed their crime, I have no obligation to punish them for it. Also, since I live in a nation with laws against stoning people to death, I am required to obey the law and not stone people to death. So to conclude, buttsex each other in your home and not where I can see you.

P.S: As a male, I would like to say that Lesbians are not hot. There, I said it. Expel me from the ranks of manhood, but damn if it isn't a double standard to like lesbians but hate male gays.

[1000 Cats]

That's because you'd be wrong. At least, according to scientists.

Homosexuality is believed by modern psychologists to be the result of chemical imbalances within the womb, making it neither genetic nor choice. Unfortunately, I won't give you a source for that- I'd be spending hours going back into my lecture notes and research to find it exactly, and I CBA to do that.

Yes, I've seen that video and found it quite interesting, I myself did some research on it and found it to be fact.

The choice I was referring to was the social concept that being gay is no "in", tons of teenagers are now flocking to the idea of being homosexual for attention or just to be unique. I'll try and make a comparison, homosexuality is like being a hipster.

Those people, however, are not actually homosexual. You can say you are all you want, and you can even poke bums, but homosexuality is an attraction, which cannot be invented.

[Volnotova]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Because it affects us, in the negative sense of the word.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice. Animals have no concept of sexuality,...

False, they might not be able to think in the same manner as us, but various studies have shown that certain animals display the ability to understand concepts like life, death, sexuality, family relations(especially in apes), etc.

...and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual.

They do exists, many species have shown homosexual behaviour: I can even recall from personal experiences that certain animals are homosexuals and that some even show pan-sexual behaviour.

Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

What perversions? Jesus never said it was a perversion, Leviticus refers to men sleeping(let's just say having sex) with men in the same manner as with women(meaning you are at the very least allright if you just refrain from having sex with both men and women) and Paul was not talking about homosexuals.

Well Corinthians the apostle Paul goes against it as well

Wrong!

Link speak for it self.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

Where did Jesus state that? Fellow "Christian"?

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

God made people, god also made homosexuals, god made people like you, me and also people like Hitler and Stalin.

Call God cruel and sadistic, but God approves of both lust and homosexuality, history and science is at our side.

We do not live tormented by fear and hatred, cannot say the same about you.

So ask your self: Who are truly the one's that are tormented by God's wrath?

[Moon Cows]

This guy is still around?

Is there a problem? I don't see that I've done anything wrong. I haven't conformed to the NS norm -- is that it?

Bonobos, actually, use sex as a means of calming down and strengthening relations. So quarrels specifically do result in sex. That's how they're solved.

That makes them homosexual. They've just developed a unique, strange social structure.

Actually, if you talk to goat farmers, exclusive homosexuality among breeding animals is quite a problem. About ten percent of rams, I'm told, only ever have sex with other rams.

I've heard of this. Wikipedia?

Right... so, your guesswork and false claims are better than case studies and statistics. Got you.

There isn't a reason most educational institutions don't approve of Wikipedia as a credible source? . . . Oh.

Based on what?

My personal morals . . . ?

Your god, as you see him, doesn't exist. If he did, the entire world would have burnt to a crisp by now in his righteous rage.

. . . Right.

[Cu Math]

Condescension, ignorance, blanket statements, partisan bashing, stereotyping, AND religious dogma without facts!
A perfect score!

Your comment deserves a blowjob...but since this game is supposed to be chidren-friendly, I'll just give you a &

Goddamn child friendliness....i demand my reward!

[1000 Cats]

I have to agree on some points with the OP. He/She/Toolazytocheck could have handled such a delicate subject better, but I agree that we as a society need to stop encouraging homosexuality in children, homosexuality as an acceptable life choice is only setting people up for a world of pain and rejection.

Children cannot choose to be gay any more than can anyone else. The best thing to do would be to create a world that does not give homosexuals pain and rejection, which is what bigots like the OP are opposing.

As a Devout Muslim, I am technically required to stone homosexuals to death.

No you're not. The Qur'an never laid out any specific punishment for homosexual men, only that they are to be punished - and then, only in a single verse.

[Pielandia]

I have to agree on some points with the OP. He/She/Toolazytocheck could have handled such a delicate subject better, but I agree that we as a society need to stop encouraging homosexuality in children, homosexuality as an acceptable life choice is only setting people up for a world of pain and rejection.

I know you'll all get pissed at me for this, and I kind of want to do the socially acceptable thing and say that homosexuality is fine and should be accepted and encouraged and that repressed sexuality is bad and all that jazz. But on the other hand I want to be honest, this is the internet after all, and what good is anonymity except for full disclosure? I try not to hate on them buttsecksers and dykes, but I also never ever EVER let them tell me that they are in fact interested solely in their own sex.

As a Devout Muslim, I am technically required to stone homosexuals to death. I am not required to hate them or discriminate against them. My logic is that if I don't know for sure that they are homosexual, if I have not witnessed their crime, I have no obligation to punish them for it. Also, since I live in a nation with laws against stoning people to death, I am required to obey the law and not stone people to death. So to conclude, buttsex each other in your home and not where I can see you.

P.S: As a male, I would like to say that Lesbians are not hot. There, I said it. Expel me from the ranks of manhood, but damn if it isn't a double standard to like lesbians but hate male gays.

Being raised in a muslim household(now atheist, but dont reject the idea of a god), my family had absolutely no problem with gays and lesbians alike, they neither hated nor rejected their ideology and just went on with their life working day-to-day, I guess I could say that a lot of that attitude rubbed off on me and thrived inside my brain and made me a Libertarian today.

If it doesn't hurt other people, who the fuck cares?
Also hating lesbian porn, m8 wot

[Wisconsin7]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice. Animals have no concept of sexuality, and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual. Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

Classic argument against anything: This offends me and others like me, so even if we're in the minority, fuck everyone else and squash the rights of people who we think are bad.
If you dislike homosexuality because of your religion, fine. If somebody doesn't want it interfering in how they live their lives, then what the fuck gives you the right to force your beliefs on them?

[Former Wellboneland]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

Also, I don't think most people understand most arguments for the morality of homosexuality. Using animals to justify it (I hope you know that Bonobos, as we humans perceive it, are extremely promiscuous and bisexual. They have, what we perceive as, sexual relations over the slightest provocation. Quarrels can become "sexual" at a moments notice. Animals have no concept of sexuality, and I wouldn't call any of them gay. -- on that note, I don't think I've EVER heard of an animal, documented throughout its entire life, as exclusively homosexual. Not to mention, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source . . . very few of the contributors have degrees or extensive knowledge in the field they're explaining, including the topic "Homosexuality in Animals." Spewing out studies and specific occasions [which for the most part are not what you think] does not make something true.) Don't try to justify your perversions.

Not only do I (and most people that find homosexuality wrong) think it's wrong because of my religion, I also believe it to be wrong morally. I could easily compare it to necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and other forms of sexual deviancy.

You can go ahead and call me a moron, ignorant, evil, scum -- you can say that my God is wrong and that my argument holds nothing, or simply insult me in lesser ways to try and make me look bad, and I'm fine with all of that. Have a nice day, everyone!

I still do not see any reason why two people of the same sex can't have sex if they love each other. Necrophilia and Zoophilia and paedophilia are wrong because a dead body, a animal, and a child cannot love a person sexually, with some rare exceptions in dogs and the like.

What I am saying is that being gay is not wrong. A dude having sex with another dude may gross me out, but it isn't wrong because both the men are having fun. That is all.

[San-Silvacian]

Homosexuality is a sin. Why can't some people just accept our belief? Goodness.

If its such a sin, then tie me up and spank me for being bad.

[1000 Cats]

This guy is still around?

Is there a problem? I don't see that I've done anything wrong. I haven't conformed to the NS norm -- is that it?

I just haven't seen you in quite a while.

Bonobos, actually, use sex as a means of calming down and strengthening relations. So quarrels specifically do result in sex. That's how they're solved.

That makes them homosexual. They've just developed a unique, strange social structure.

No, that makes them bisexual. And yes, they have developed a unique social structure: one in which violence is essentially nonexistent. Quite the dystopia.

Actually, if you talk to goat farmers, exclusive homosexuality among breeding animals is quite a problem. About ten percent of rams, I'm told, only ever have sex with other rams.

I've heard of this. Wikipedia?

No, personal experience. Trufax, son.

Right... so, your guesswork and false claims are better than case studies and statistics. Got you.

There isn't a reason most educational institutions don't approve of Wikipedia as a credible source? . . . Oh.

They don't. However, if you bring up a page on Wikipedia... bare with me, here, I know this is painful for you... you will occasionally see little superscript numbers throughout the article. If you click on them, or you just scroll down to the bottom of the page, you will see a little section that we, in high-level academia, like to call a Bibliography. These are your academic sources, which educational institutions specifically go to.

Based on what?

My personal morals . . . ?

Which are more or less reliable than Wikipedia?

[Pielandia]

As a Devout Muslim, I am technically required to stone homosexuals to death.

No you're not. The Qur'an never laid out any specific punishment for homosexual men, only that they are to be punished - and then, only in a single verse.

Stoning to death by the general populace being the norm for sinners back then, and the Koran not being edit nor changed since its writing, has left the image in peoples head that stoning to death is still the prominent way of the death penalty.

[Moon Cows]

God made people, god also made homosexuals, god made people like you, me and also people like Hitler and Stalin.

Call God cruel and sadistic, but God approves of both lust and homosexuality, history and science is at our side.

We do not live tormented by fear and hatred, cannot say the same about you.

So ask your self: Who are truly the one's that are tormented by God's wrath?

Sorry for ignoring the bulk of your post, but . . . God doesn't approve of sin. There is a reason we have free will, fellow "Christian." Don't say God approves of lust (all of those sexual perversions I listed are sins of lust). That really makes you sound stupid.

[Former Wellboneland]

I have to agree on some points with the OP. He/She/Toolazytocheck could have handled such a delicate subject better, but I agree that we as a society need to stop encouraging homosexuality in children, homosexuality as an acceptable life choice is only setting people up for a world of pain and rejection.

I know you'll all get pissed at me for this, and I kind of want to do the socially acceptable thing and say that homosexuality is fine and should be accepted and encouraged and that repressed sexuality is bad and all that jazz. But on the other hand I want to be honest, this is the internet after all, and what good is anonymity except for full disclosure? I try not to hate on them buttsecksers and dykes, but I also never ever EVER let them tell me that they are in fact interested solely in their own sex.

As a Devout Muslim, I am technically required to stone homosexuals to death. I am not required to hate them or discriminate against them. My logic is that if I don't know for sure that they are homosexual, if I have not witnessed their crime, I have no obligation to punish them for it. Also, since I live in a nation with laws against stoning people to death, I am required to obey the law and not stone people to death. So to conclude, buttsex each other in your home and not where I can see you.

P.S: As a male, I would like to say that Lesbians are not hot. There, I said it. Expel me from the ranks of manhood, but damn if it isn't a double standard to like lesbians but hate male gays.

I will have to take your man card mate.

And you are NOT required to stone anyone regardless of what a old bearded man from a long time ago said. It is wrong.

[Raeyh]

I still do not see any reason why two people of the same sex can't have sex if they love each other. Necrophilia and Zoophilia and paedophilia are wrong because a dead body, a animal, and a child cannot love a person sexually, with some rare exceptions in dogs and the like.

So dogs can have sex with corpses, other animals, and children?