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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 am

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Naughtania wrote:But why is the defenition of marriage heterosexual? Because of bigoted discrimination against gays. I would argue that allowing gay marriage is not redifining marriage but completing it.


No it's because marriage historically was not just to do with love but also with passing on of property, the family name, social stability, connecting families, etc - marriage isn't a private thing but also for the benefit of society and the nation as a whole. This still applies. Same sex marriage does absolutely nothing on this level so there's no point to it. Society doesn't benefit from it, why should society bless it?


Whaaa?

Same sex couples can have families (as in children), can have property to pass on, often have families to connect etc.

You do know that a homosexual couple isn't actually that different from a heterosexual couple when it comes to what their relationship actually does and the trappings that surround such a relationship?

I dislike this weird form of egalitarianism that insists gay relationships have to be considered the same as straight ones else someone is being hateful… they're not, and that's okay.

Besides wouldn't you feel a right idiot (assuming you're a man) saying "This is my husband"……… I know I would.


No, I wouldn't feel a right idiot saying that.

And same sex relationships should be considered the same as straight ones since they do and accomplish the very same things. Unless there is actually evidence permitting legal recognition negatively affects the state or individuals in the state then there is no logical or ethically justifiable reason for denying them this.
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Postby Alaje » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 am

Naughtania wrote:
Alaje wrote:I really don't see what people's problem with homosexually is, to me it's rather a non-issue. Gays are annoying ( personal opinion there), but they can't make you gay unless you already are, and seriously LET THEM MARRY. What's the problem with gay marriage? If to people love eachother deeply they should be allowed the right to marriage.

Goddamn people are idiots.

How are gays annoying?
(No hate there, just a question.)


I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
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Some people are just not into fun.

But I'm kind of a hypocrite on that. Roller coasters scare me. :?

What's to hate about a gay pride parade though? There's fun music, great food, awesome floats, lots of people in costume...


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Postby Delik » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 am

Volnotova wrote:
Alaje wrote:I really don't see what people's problem with homosexually is, to me it's rather a non-issue. Gays are annoying ( personal opinion there), but they can't make you gay unless you already are, and seriously LET THEM MARRY. What's the problem with gay marriage? If two people love eachother deeply they should be allowed the right to marriage.

Goddamn people are idiots.


And what about Bisexuals? Do you find them annoying too?


yeah. :eyebrow:

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Postby Naughtania » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 am

It seems that Celephais has fled this thread... while we still attack his arguments.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:26 am

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And what about Bisexuals? Do you find them annoying too?


yeah. :eyebrow:


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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:26 am

Alaje wrote:
Naughtania wrote:How are gays annoying?
(No hate there, just a question.)


I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.

I have an issue with people hitting on me that I don't have even a superficial interest in regardless of what plumbing is down there...

And that whole masculine/feminine thing isn't related to gender orientation, some people just act in that way regardless of to whom they are attracted.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 am

Farnhamia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Some people are just not into fun.

But I'm kind of a hypocrite on that. Roller coasters scare me. :?

I don't like roller coasters, either. Ride up and down at high speed in a rickety cart and scream? I'll go have a beer while you do that.


When the intoxication hits you, you're on a roller coaster anyway! :lol:

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Alaje wrote:
Naughtania wrote:How are gays annoying?
(No hate there, just a question.)


I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.


I've had straight guys threaten to fuck me in the ass if I didn't buy them chips, too.

I get the feeling they were just joking around.

But I totally understand if it seems weird.

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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 am

Alaje wrote:
Naughtania wrote:How are gays annoying?
(No hate there, just a question.)


I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.

Almost this.
But I still tolerate them. I can't understand why a guy would look at a hairy man and say " I wan't that!", but I can understand a little about a woman liking a woman.

I'm a lesbian guy, in a sense.
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Postby Naughtania » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 am

Alaje wrote:I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women.

Well, that reflects not on them but on your tolerance.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 am

Former Wellboneland wrote:
Alaje wrote:
I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.

Almost this.
But I still tolerate them. I can't understand why a guy would look at a hairy man and say " I wan't that!", but I can understand a little about a woman liking a woman.

I'm a lesbian guy, in a sense.

Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:29 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Alaje wrote:
I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women. I also have had some bad experiences with flamey gays hitting on me, lol.....I don't appreciate that.

I have an issue with people hitting on me that I don't have even a superficial interest in regardless of what plumbing is down there...

And that whole masculine/feminine thing isn't related to gender orientation, some people just act in that way regardless of to whom they are attracted.


Indeed.

No one has ever assumed I was bisexual.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:29 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:Almost this.
But I still tolerate them. I can't understand why a guy would look at a hairy man and say " I wan't that!", but I can understand a little about a woman liking a woman.

I'm a lesbian guy, in a sense.

Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...


Ew, that oily hack?

Wesley Snipes is a MACHINE.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:29 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:Almost this.
But I still tolerate them. I can't understand why a guy would look at a hairy man and say " I wan't that!", but I can understand a little about a woman liking a woman.

I'm a lesbian guy, in a sense.

Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...

Hey, I'm a gay lesbian woman and I like Antonio Banderas, too. I like saying his name out loud, "An-ton-io Ban-derrrrrras." :blush:
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Postby Delik » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:31 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:Almost this.
But I still tolerate them. I can't understand why a guy would look at a hairy man and say " I wan't that!", but I can understand a little about a woman liking a woman.

I'm a lesbian guy, in a sense.

Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...



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Postby Vaklor » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:32 am

Anthonlandesia wrote:What can I say other than that it is a sad reflection on humanity that people think homosexuality(yes that includes lesbianism) is normal even though it is obviously a perversion and a sick one too like pedophilia, necrophilia, and zoophilia. It is a fact that violence and even murder and rape much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community. It is also fact that they are more sexually promiscuous and much more likely to carry stds. I think that it is time for the misconception that homosexuality(and lesbianism) is okay to come to an end. And here are just a few of my sources.

EDIT: As for those that same homosexuality is normal because some animals do it. Well rape, cannibalism, and murder have witnessed among animals as well. Should we accept those as normal too and legalize those things as well?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msmpressrelease.html

http://www.narth.com/docs/domestic.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357


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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:32 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...


Ew, that oily hack?

Wesley Snipes is a MACHINE.

Wesley Snipes is also a sovereign citizen nutcase. Ew.

And oily hack? Clearly you didn't watch The Mask of Zorro. I may be straight and loves da ladies in many forms and ways but even I had to admit sitting there, "Goddamn that man's got machismo, that's hot."
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Northern Dominus wrote:Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...

Hey, I'm a gay lesbian woman and I like Antonio Banderas, too. I like saying his name out loud, "An-ton-io Ban-derrrrrras." :blush:

I'm convinced he and Salma Hayek were cut from the same block of "I don't care what your sexuality or gender is you WILL want me within 5 seconds of my first appearance on screen."
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:33 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Thanks for making my awkward man-crush on Antonio Banderas from an otherwise straight male that much more awkward...

Hey, I'm a gay lesbian woman and I like Antonio Banderas, too. I like saying his name out loud, "An-ton-io Ban-derrrrrras." :blush:

Yes, he is quite hawt.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Ew, that oily hack?

Wesley Snipes is a MACHINE.

Wesley Snipes is also a sovereign citizen nutcase. Ew.

And oily hack? Clearly you didn't watch The Mask of Zorro. I may be straight and loves da ladies in many forms and ways but even I had to admit sitting there, "Goddamn that man's got machismo, that's hot."
Farnhamia wrote:Hey, I'm a gay lesbian woman and I like Antonio Banderas, too. I like saying his name out loud, "An-ton-io Ban-derrrrrras." :blush:

I'm convinced he and Salma Hayek were cut from the same block of "I don't care what your sexuality or gender is you WILL want me within 5 seconds of my first appearance on screen."

Yes.
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Postby Alaje » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 am

Volnotova wrote:
Alaje wrote:I really don't see what people's problem with homosexually is, to me it's rather a non-issue. Gays are annoying ( personal opinion there), but they can't make you gay unless you already are, and seriously LET THEM MARRY. What's the problem with gay marriage? If two people love eachother deeply they should be allowed the right to marriage.

Goddamn people are idiots.


And what about Bisexuals? Do you find them annoying too?


For me Bisexuals are pretty much the same as Gays, but I think some Bis are only so because they're desperate. Most are genuinely Bi think, I have a few friends are are undeniablely Bi.

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Alaje wrote:I just don't like the way some of them act, feminine men and masculine women.

Well, that reflects not on them but on your tolerance.


True, I agree. Girly men and brutish women creep me out, it's just not my thing.
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Postby Delik » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:38 am

he's a loser. :p

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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:38 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Ew, that oily hack?

Wesley Snipes is a MACHINE.

Wesley Snipes is also a sovereign citizen nutcase. Ew.

And oily hack? Clearly you didn't watch The Mask of Zorro. I may be straight and loves da ladies in many forms and ways but even I had to admit sitting there, "Goddamn that man's got machismo, that's hot."
Farnhamia wrote:Hey, I'm a gay lesbian woman and I like Antonio Banderas, too. I like saying his name out loud, "An-ton-io Ban-derrrrrras." :blush:

I'm convinced he and Salma Hayek were cut from the same block of "I don't care what your sexuality or gender is you WILL want me within 5 seconds of my first appearance on screen."


One of the reasons why I can admit I am bisexual is because I am not pre-occupied with the idea that I have to be either gay or straight like many people seem to be.
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 am

Alaje wrote:
Volnotova wrote:
And what about Bisexuals? Do you find them annoying too?


For me Bisexuals are pretty much the same as Gays, but I think some Bis are only so because they're desperate. Most are genuinely Bi think, I have a few friends are are undeniablely Bi.

Naughtania wrote:Well, that reflects not on them but on your tolerance.


True, I agree. Girly men and brutish women creep me out, it's just not my thing.


But why are Bi's and Gays the same to you? In what manner?
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:40 am

Volnotova wrote:
Alaje wrote:
For me Bisexuals are pretty much the same as Gays, but I think some Bis are only so because they're desperate. Most are genuinely Bi think, I have a few friends are are undeniablely Bi.



True, I agree. Girly men and brutish women creep me out, it's just not my thing.


But why are Bi's and Gays the same to you? In what manner?

Both think i'm hot.
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