NATION

PASSWORD

Lynch your boss

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Hairless Kitten II
Senator
 
Posts: 4198
Founded: Jun 30, 2009
Ex-Nation

Lynch your boss

Postby Hairless Kitten II » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:44 am

Roy George, vice president (human resource) in the Coimbatore-based Pricol Ltd, died Tuesday, a day after being attacked by company workers. Nine workers have been arrested for his death.

The Rs.633 crore turnover Pricol is a leading auto component manufacturer.

Pricol was afflicted by labour problems for some time. The issue came to a boil Monday when the company dismissed around 35 workers in one of its factories near Coimbatore.

Enraged by the news, a group of workers went on the rampage at the company's Plant I at Perianaickenpalayam, damaging computers, glass panels and other furniture.

Officials who tried to intervene were attacked, and George was hit on the head. George, 46, was admitted to a Coimbatore hospital with serious injuries. He succumbed to his injuries Tuesday.

According to the Coimbatore police, four employees - three male and one female - were injured in the attack, including George.

While three were admitted to hospital, one was treated as an outpatient Monday.

According to officials, the company does not have any immediate plans to close down the plant.

Meanwhile, shocked over the death, industry lobby Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), Southern Region, strongly condemned the attack on George.

In a statement here, C.R. Swaminathan, chairman CII Southern Region, said any labour issue would need to be resolved through consensus only and not through violence.

Concerned with the increasing incidents of labour unrest, Swaminathan urged the Tamil Nadu government to take firm action against those who had taken law in their hands.

In his message, C.K. Ranganathan, chairman, CII-Tamil Nadu, appealed to the state government for its intervention in protecting the interests of labour and management.

When contacted by IANS, state Labour Minister T.M. Anbarasan was not available for comment on the increasing labour unrest in the state.

http://www.indiaenews.com/business/20090922/222522.htm

It seems that the CEO's & other top executives in the West doesn't have to complain. :)

• Vote for The NationStates Razzies 2009
• Any similarities with reality is a mere coincidence
• No mods were harmed during the making of this posting
• Protégez les enfants: ne leur faites pas respirer votre commentaires`
• Quand tous les dégoûtés seront partis, il ne restera plus que les dégoûtants
• Please report me at the Moderation Section because I'm spoiling your day

User avatar
Post-Unity Terra
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Oct 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Post-Unity Terra » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:45 am

After this, I don't want to hear another American conservative complain about class warfare ever again.

User avatar
Meoton
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: Mar 10, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Meoton » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:36 am

I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(
Ignorance is curable. Stupidity is for life.
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
"Have some Kool-aid" - Jim Jones
An obsession with guns is often a sign of a small penis. - S. Fraud

User avatar
Blouman Empire
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16184
Founded: Sep 05, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:53 am

Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(

Because that is the mature response.
You know you've made it on NSG when you have a whole thread created around what you said.
On the American/United Statesian matter "I'd suggest Americans go to their nation settings and change their nation prefix to something cooler." - The Kangaroo Republic
http://nswiki.net/index.php?title=Blouman_Empire

DBC26-Winner

User avatar
New Chalcedon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12226
Founded: Sep 20, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby New Chalcedon » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:01 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(

Because that is the mature response.


Indeed. I agree - not very mature, Meoton.

Seriously, the USA is riven by class warfare. Thirty years of neoliberalism has thinned the middle class, expanded the poor and made the rich richer. I'm not advocating socialism, but it's clear where the USA is heading after going down the neolib path.
Fuck it all. Let the world burn - there's no way roaches could do a worse job of being decent than we have.

User avatar
Pope Joan
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19500
Founded: Mar 11, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Pope Joan » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:31 am

I despise the idle rich.

I wish them ill.

Lord of justice, rain down upon them all the ills they have caused others. Disease, for hogging the best health care. Poverty, for impoverishing others. Ugliness in place of lipo and botox. Humiliation in place of smugness. Let them taste the bottom rung of our justice system. Let them live in squalor and the threat of violence.

Lord you have been far too merciful far too long. Enough!
"Life is difficult".

-M. Scott Peck

User avatar
Sibirsky
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44940
Founded: Mar 22, 2009
Anarchy

Postby Sibirsky » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:37 am

Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(


I hope somebody hits your clunker and runs.
Free market capitalism, path to prosperity
Свободный рынок капитализма, путь к процветанию
IBC 7 Finalists
8 Gold, 9 Silver, 2 Bronze medals IV Summer Olympics
2 Silver, 4 Bronze medals V Winter Olympics
Golfinator Classic Champion
Scott Cup I Champions
World Bowl 11 4th Place

User avatar
Sibirsky
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44940
Founded: Mar 22, 2009
Anarchy

Postby Sibirsky » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:41 am

Pope Joan wrote:I despise the idle rich.

I wish them ill.

Lord of justice, rain down upon them all the ills they have caused others. Disease, for hogging the best health care. Poverty, for impoverishing others. Ugliness in place of lipo and botox. Humiliation in place of smugness. Let them taste the bottom rung of our justice system. Let them live in squalor and the threat of violence.

Lord you have been far too merciful far too long. Enough!


You are confused. Probably intentionally brainwashed. In any case, these rich, whom you despise, are not impoverishing others. They provide jobs. Usually with health care. They pay more than their fair share of taxes, for little in return. They pay for valuable services that you use. You should really look into this hatred of a group of people that you have. It is not healthy.
Free market capitalism, path to prosperity
Свободный рынок капитализма, путь к процветанию
IBC 7 Finalists
8 Gold, 9 Silver, 2 Bronze medals IV Summer Olympics
2 Silver, 4 Bronze medals V Winter Olympics
Golfinator Classic Champion
Scott Cup I Champions
World Bowl 11 4th Place

User avatar
Non Aligned States
Minister
 
Posts: 3156
Founded: Nov 14, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Non Aligned States » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:59 am

Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.


Which is why Union Carbide continues to deny any sort of responsibility for the Bhopal disaster, a disaster that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't run by penny pinching money grubbers who would rather toss away thousands of lives working for them in deliberately unsafe chemical plants with nonexistent safety measures and emergency protocols, letting them and their families die in the ensuing chemical cloud, than pay one red cent for better standards you mean?

Why would a company engaging in that sort of practice bother providing health care when they're quite willing to kill their workers through negligence hmmm?
Last edited by Non Aligned States on Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:12 am, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Risottia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 54744
Founded: Sep 05, 2006
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:28 am

Pope Joan wrote:I despise the idle rich.


I despise those who are voluntarily idle. Including idle rich people, or idle poor people who refuse to work (those who try but cannot find it's another story). I also despise needless violence, like this one.

By the way, a vice-chairman or whatever is not an "idle rich". He's a worker. Better paid and with more responsibilities. But still a worker. Who, in this case, has been paying with his own life for the social tensions stemming from the global crisis - which, in turn, is the fault of the real "idle rich" (non-productive would be a better term, anyway) : that is a totally virtualised financial system.
Last edited by Risottia on Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:30 am, edited 2 times in total.
Statanist through and through.
Evilutionist Atheist Crusadjihadist. "Darwinu Akhbar! Dawkins vult!"
Founder of the NSG Peace Prize Committee.
I'm back.
SUMMER, BLOODY SUMMER!

User avatar
Pedoka
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 181
Founded: Jul 23, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Pedoka » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:38 am

Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(

You do realize you would be looking at a felony for that? Not some petty misdemeanor bullshit...

Vandalism to an 80k car would generally result in damages beyond the low misdemeanor caps in most states and the crime would most certainly be elevated and enhanced based on hate crime rationale, a motive to attack those in the upper echelons of society.

That being said, I expect you to retract your comments.

User avatar
Marlencom
Envoy
 
Posts: 310
Founded: Mar 23, 2009
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Marlencom » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:26 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.


Which is why Union Carbide continues to deny any sort of responsibility for the Bhopal disaster, a disaster that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't run by penny pinching money grubbers who would rather toss away thousands of lives working for them in deliberately unsafe chemical plants with nonexistent safety measures and emergency protocols, letting them and their families die in the ensuing chemical cloud, than pay one red cent for better standards you mean?

Why would a company engaging in that sort of practice bother providing health care when they're quite willing to kill their workers through negligence hmmm?


An industrial accident? So what's your answer, more government? Because governments do not ever make mistakes.
Shofercia wrote:And considering your past claims about Russia, such as "Soviet technology was shit", and "There was 7 fucking decades of Soviet rule that destroyed the economy", I have trouble taking anything you say about Russia seriously.

User avatar
Marlencom
Envoy
 
Posts: 310
Founded: Mar 23, 2009
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Marlencom » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:27 am

Pedoka wrote:
Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(

You do realize you would be looking at a felony for that? Not some petty misdemeanor bullshit...

Vandalism to an 80k car would generally result in damages beyond the low misdemeanor caps in most states and the crime would most certainly be elevated and enhanced based on hate crime rationale, a motive to attack those in the upper echelons of society.

That being said, I expect you to retract your comments.


I praise a felony for a dumb ass. Take his vote away.
Shofercia wrote:And considering your past claims about Russia, such as "Soviet technology was shit", and "There was 7 fucking decades of Soviet rule that destroyed the economy", I have trouble taking anything you say about Russia seriously.

User avatar
Marlencom
Envoy
 
Posts: 310
Founded: Mar 23, 2009
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Marlencom » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:28 am

Risottia wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:I despise the idle rich.


I despise those who are voluntarily idle. Including idle rich people, or idle poor people who refuse to work (those who try but cannot find it's another story). I also despise needless violence, like this one.

By the way, a vice-chairman or whatever is not an "idle rich". He's a worker. Better paid and with more responsibilities. But still a worker. Who, in this case, has been paying with his own life for the social tensions stemming from the global crisis - which, in turn, is the fault of the real "idle rich" (non-productive would be a better term, anyway) : that is a totally virtualised financial system.


What about the money and capital those "idle rich" invested in the business? Does the fact that he is risking his own capital does not mean anything?
Shofercia wrote:And considering your past claims about Russia, such as "Soviet technology was shit", and "There was 7 fucking decades of Soviet rule that destroyed the economy", I have trouble taking anything you say about Russia seriously.

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 am

Marlencom wrote:An industrial accident? So what's your answer, more government? Because governments do not ever make mistakes.

What's that? Companies are cutting corners? Well, government regulations certainly won't help. Let's face it, the government can never ever do anything right and always screws things up. Let's just leave these things to the private sector.

What's that? Crime is occurring in the world? Well, government services certainly won't help, so let's get rid of those useless police departments. We can probably get rid of all the emergency services, actually. Let's face it, the government can never ever do anything right and always screws things up. Let's just leave these things to the private sector.
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
Greed and Death
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 53383
Founded: Mar 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 am

A shocking incident.
those involved should be executed by firing squad to send a message to other workers.
Any lesser of a response by the government is class warfare by the government and merits open take over of government by business interest.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
Barack Obama

User avatar
Greed and Death
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 53383
Founded: Mar 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:37 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.


Which is why Union Carbide continues to deny any sort of responsibility for the Bhopal disaster, a disaster that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't run by penny pinching money grubbers who would rather toss away thousands of lives working for them in deliberately unsafe chemical plants with nonexistent safety measures and emergency protocols, letting them and their families die in the ensuing chemical cloud, than pay one red cent for better standards you mean?

Why would a company engaging in that sort of practice bother providing health care when they're quite willing to kill their workers through negligence hmmm?

How is an industrial accident caused by a disgruntled employee the company's fault?
You can produce safety measures all you want a clever former employee can get around them.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
Barack Obama

User avatar
Post-Unity Terra
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Oct 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Post-Unity Terra » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:38 am

Pedoka wrote:
Meoton wrote:I'm a liberal. Can I complain? The very rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and the social safety net is falling apart. I'm keying the next $80k car I see. >:(

You do realize you would be looking at a felony for that? Not some petty misdemeanor bullshit...

Vandalism to an 80k car would generally result in damages beyond the low misdemeanor caps in most states and the crime would most certainly be elevated and enhanced based on hate crime rationale, a motive to attack those in the upper echelons of society.

That being said, I expect you to retract your comments.


I'm sure the rich appreciate you leaping to their defence like a good peasant should.

User avatar
Shinkadomayaka
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1450
Founded: Jul 23, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Shinkadomayaka » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:46 am

I declare that this thread has been jacked.
Military service compulsary.
Benevelont Dictatorship.
DEFCON 1: Relative Peace
Quotes of Awesomeness
Tsaraine wrote:Somewhere in Philadelphia, one school administrator has just smacked another school administrator upside the head. "Damnit, Jenkins! I told you we should just have gone with chastity belts!"


Huntertopia wrote:95% of all teens would cry if Justin Bieber was jumped and killed. 4% would laugh at his dead corpse. If you are the 1% that jumped him, copy and paste this in your sig.


Protectorates:
Percussionistsers

User avatar
The_pantless_hero
Senator
 
Posts: 4302
Founded: Mar 19, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:50 am

Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.

Except when they are giving people just under 40 hours of work a week so they don't have a right to healthcare. Or when they earn big pay checks for saving the company money by firing people.

You should really look into this hatred of a group of people that you have. It is not healthy.

Neither is delusion.
Last edited by The_pantless_hero on Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Bottle wrote:Equality is a slippery slope, people, and if you give it to the gays you have to give it to the polygamists and if you give it to the polygamists you have to give it to the serial dog molesters and if you give it to the serial dog molesters you have to give it to the machine fetishists and the next thing you know you're being tied up by a trio of polygamist lesbian powerbooks and you can't get out because the safety word is case sensistive!

Doing what we must because we can

User avatar
The_pantless_hero
Senator
 
Posts: 4302
Founded: Mar 19, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:53 am

greed and death wrote:
Non Aligned States wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.


Which is why Union Carbide continues to deny any sort of responsibility for the Bhopal disaster, a disaster that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't run by penny pinching money grubbers who would rather toss away thousands of lives working for them in deliberately unsafe chemical plants with nonexistent safety measures and emergency protocols, letting them and their families die in the ensuing chemical cloud, than pay one red cent for better standards you mean?

Why would a company engaging in that sort of practice bother providing health care when they're quite willing to kill their workers through negligence hmmm?

How is an industrial accident caused by a disgruntled employee the company's fault?
You can produce safety measures all you want a clever former employee can get around them.

Lolwhat? Pray tell why you know more about the disaster than anyone else? Like what exactly was the catalyst for it? And how do you know that but do not know about the dozens of safety failures or the plant?
Bottle wrote:Equality is a slippery slope, people, and if you give it to the gays you have to give it to the polygamists and if you give it to the polygamists you have to give it to the serial dog molesters and if you give it to the serial dog molesters you have to give it to the machine fetishists and the next thing you know you're being tied up by a trio of polygamist lesbian powerbooks and you can't get out because the safety word is case sensistive!

Doing what we must because we can

User avatar
Sibirsky
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44940
Founded: Mar 22, 2009
Anarchy

Postby Sibirsky » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:02 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:Except when they are giving people just under 40 hours of work a week so they don't have a right to healthcare. Or when they earn big pay checks for saving the company money by firing people.

And what's stopping them from buying their own health insurance? Sure, they don't get the tax break their employer would get, but I am not the one that wrote the tax code. Had I written it, it would be simple, individuals use before tax money to pay for medical expenses just like corporations do.
Free market capitalism, path to prosperity
Свободный рынок капитализма, путь к процветанию
IBC 7 Finalists
8 Gold, 9 Silver, 2 Bronze medals IV Summer Olympics
2 Silver, 4 Bronze medals V Winter Olympics
Golfinator Classic Champion
Scott Cup I Champions
World Bowl 11 4th Place

User avatar
Sibirsky
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44940
Founded: Mar 22, 2009
Anarchy

Postby Sibirsky » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:03 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
You should really look into this hatred of a group of people that you have. It is not healthy.

Neither is delusion.


I will not give in to flame baiting.
Free market capitalism, path to prosperity
Свободный рынок капитализма, путь к процветанию
IBC 7 Finalists
8 Gold, 9 Silver, 2 Bronze medals IV Summer Olympics
2 Silver, 4 Bronze medals V Winter Olympics
Golfinator Classic Champion
Scott Cup I Champions
World Bowl 11 4th Place

User avatar
The_pantless_hero
Senator
 
Posts: 4302
Founded: Mar 19, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:04 am

Sibirsky wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:Except when they are giving people just under 40 hours of work a week so they don't have a right to healthcare. Or when they earn big pay checks for saving the company money by firing people.

And what's stopping them from buying their own health insurance? Sure, they don't get the tax break their employer would get, but I am not the one that wrote the tax code. Had I written it, it would be simple, individuals use before tax money to pay for medical expenses just like corporations do.

So your argument is they should buy healthcare on their own, at a far higher price I might add, because it would be affordable in your personal bizarro world? Great.

PS. That has nothing to do with my or your original point - that "rich" people running companies "provide healthcare."
Last edited by The_pantless_hero on Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:05 am, edited 2 times in total.
Bottle wrote:Equality is a slippery slope, people, and if you give it to the gays you have to give it to the polygamists and if you give it to the polygamists you have to give it to the serial dog molesters and if you give it to the serial dog molesters you have to give it to the machine fetishists and the next thing you know you're being tied up by a trio of polygamist lesbian powerbooks and you can't get out because the safety word is case sensistive!

Doing what we must because we can

User avatar
Post-Unity Terra
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Oct 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Post-Unity Terra » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:06 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Non Aligned States wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:They provide jobs. Usually with health care.


Which is why Union Carbide continues to deny any sort of responsibility for the Bhopal disaster, a disaster that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't run by penny pinching money grubbers who would rather toss away thousands of lives working for them in deliberately unsafe chemical plants with nonexistent safety measures and emergency protocols, letting them and their families die in the ensuing chemical cloud, than pay one red cent for better standards you mean?

Why would a company engaging in that sort of practice bother providing health care when they're quite willing to kill their workers through negligence hmmm?

How is an industrial accident caused by a disgruntled employee the company's fault?
You can produce safety measures all you want a clever former employee can get around them.

Lolwhat? Pray tell why you know more about the disaster than anyone else? Like what exactly was the catalyst for it? And how do you know that but do not know about the dozens of safety failures or the plant?


That's Union Carbide's story. It wasn't the nonexistent safety precautions or massively overfilled toxic chemical tanks, it was James Bond.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Angeloid Astraea, Grinning Dragon, Ngelmish, Reich of the New World Order, Roighelm, Vassenor, World Anarchic Union

Advertisement

Remove ads