A 'national day' for the UK?

[Psuedopolis]

If something has happened before it can be done again.

Not in this universe.

Considering space and time are curved I shall just say "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet Act 1, Scn 5.

Back on subject. Who doesn't like a party? Most parties end up about something vaguely remembered by party-goers.

[Yootwopia]

Back on subject. Who doesn't like a party? Most parties end up about something vaguely remembered by party-goers.

Historians can't party without class Bs and above. What is this even relevant to, anyway?

[Tagmatium]

Historians can't party without class Bs and above.

Known fact.

The government's even considering legislation in their favour, in order to stimulate the number of people taking history at university.

[Ifreann]

that because the americans are hypernationalist nutters and this is a good thing

Okay, the Americans might not have been the best example. But what about the Australians, the New Zealanders, the Irish, the Manx and the Scots? All fiercely proud and all great nations.

Fiercely proud? Bollocks are we, moaning about the state of affairs is the primary Irish past time, slightly ahead of drinking and eating potatoes. Oh sure, we'll put on our silly hats and get out the plastic hammers if the football team wins more than twice in any given competition, or if we're playing England, but once the foreigners stop looking we get back to complaining about how everything in the country is shit.

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The 5th of November, when William III invaded England and deposed James II.

There already is a day celebrating the ultimate conclusion of that:


Do you really want to go down that road?

Won't lie, I laughed to myself. Gold star.

[Horsefish]

Historians can't party without class Bs and above.

Known fact.

The government's even considering legislation in their favour, in order to stimulate the number of people taking history at university.

I definatly picked the wrong course now.

[Forsher]

Not even, ow.

Hate that phrase, so, thanks mate.

It's just wannabe Cotswolds plus an undercurrent of racial tension.

I notice the sheep in the wiki picture. I wish there were more buildings like that, the landscape is close enough.

[The UK in Exile]

Not as a useful area of study, no. I study history, but not because I think it has a purpose beyond being a distracting thing that others are interested in.

Let's put it this way - is the Battle of Trafalgar or similar a thing that:

a) Matters in any real socioeconomic sense today (no)
b) Anyone alive today has a right to be proud of (absolutely not)
c) Was a Good Thing (not really, people died for basically no reason)

Having a Trafalgar Day type celebration is basically an excuse for Britons to wank over some dead sailors and 'remember better days'. That's not healthy.

If 'a good education of British history' consisted of waving union jacks over English victories without learning about their wider significance other than "we killed those Johnny Foreigners", then I may agree with you.

that seems to be what you are suggesting.

Do French children not learn why their Paris train station is called Austerlitz? And as modern trade partners, why should we be offended if they do? It's not as if such an education is calling for a new invasion of Germany and Russia.

Yes, they are likely know why.

but do russian children learn why train stations are called vauxhalls?

Unless I'm mistaken, Bastille Day isn't so much about them kicking other countries in a battle, but more about overthrowing the monarchy.

And slaughtering anyone with a job that didn't involve physical labour, or said something against the revolutionaries, or fell foul of others. It was bloodbath.

I do physical labour. If I have to pick a side, I know which one.

how about water-lgar trafa mindelooheim day?