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Do you support a 'national day' for the UK?

Yes (say which date)
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No
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Hydesland
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:39 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
Why not? Everything else just seems trivial.

Because we're not a shit country, so why would we celebrate a military victory?


Because we're the best, around, nothings gonna ever keep us down.

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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:40 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:A true celebration for the UK of our times.

"English stuff basically counts for everyone, yeah?"


true, however our shared history with the rest of the union consists of waging war on each other. Indeed the most offensive aspect of britains shared history to the other nations is that they share it with england.

so its pretty much impossible to pick something non-contreversial.

So why do it?
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:43 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
true, however our shared history with the rest of the union consists of waging war on each other. Indeed the most offensive aspect of britains shared history to the other nations is that they share it with england.

so its pretty much impossible to pick something non-contreversial.

So why do it?


to troll the rest of the union. :p
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:44 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:Because we're not a shit country, so why would we celebrate a military victory?


Because we're the best, around, nothings gonna ever keep us down.

"Huzzah, Trafalgar Day, when we smashed one of our larger trading partners in the EU, with whom we have been allied several times since"
"Up D-Day-Day, when we showed those Jerries upon whom we rely for much of our high-tech engineering what for"
"Hurray Kicking The Piss Out Of Some African Country That Doesn't Even Work Properly Day, we are better than that, probably, although actually celebrating miltary victories implies that our fat, smug society is here entirely by fortune and probably has no actual qualities over anyone when examined closely"

Whatevs.
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:45 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:So why do it?


to troll the rest of the union. :p

You ever met someone English who celebrated English things that you didn't wish to die?

I don't think I have.
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
Because we're the best, around, nothings gonna ever keep us down.

"Huzzah, Trafalgar Day, when we smashed one of our larger trading partners in the EU, with whom we have been allied several times since"
"Up D-Day-Day, when we showed those Jerries upon whom we rely for much of our high-tech engineering what for"
"Hurray Kicking The Piss Out Of Some African Country That Doesn't Even Work Properly Day, we are better than that, probably, although actually celebrating miltary victories implies that our fat, smug society is here entirely by fortune and probably has no actual qualities over anyone when examined closely"

Whatevs.


I think your standards are too high.

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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Is the Queen's Birthday not suitable enough?
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:So why do it?


to troll the rest of the union. :p

maybe we could take your earlier idea of reformation and combine it with military victory

we could have a march, perhaps a walk of some sort

it will be great

everyone will get so butthurt!!!
Last edited by Alyakia on Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Hydesland wrote:I think your standards are too high.

I think they're just right.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
to troll the rest of the union. :p

You ever met someone English who celebrated English things that you didn't wish to die?

I don't think I have.


there was actually some kind of parade through london today, flying the St George flag.

With the FUCKING. CARLSBERG. LOGO. :evil:
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:You ever met someone English who celebrated English things that you didn't wish to die?

I don't think I have.


there was actually some kind of parade through london today, flying the St George flag.

With the FUCKING. CARLSBERG. LOGO. :evil:

Sounds about right for English nationalists.
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:"Huzzah, Trafalgar Day, when we smashed one of our larger trading partners in the EU, with whom we have been allied several times since"
"Up D-Day-Day, when we showed those Jerries upon whom we rely for much of our high-tech engineering what for"
"Hurray Kicking The Piss Out Of Some African Country That Doesn't Even Work Properly Day, we are better than that, probably, although actually celebrating miltary victories implies that our fat, smug society is here entirely by fortune and probably has no actual qualities over anyone when examined closely"

Whatevs.


I think your standards are too high.

can you not think of something to celebrate that doesn't involve killing people and an "enemy"?
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:48 pm

Alyakia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
to troll the rest of the union. :p

maybe we could take your earlier idea of reformation and combine it with military victory

we could have a march, perhaps a walk of some sort

it will be great

everyone will get so butthurt!!!


we could call it the red-yellow day parade.

the people who take part would be yellowy-red men.

reddy, yellowish.....

it'll come to me.
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
DEFCON 0 - not at war
DEFCON 1 - at war "go to red alert!" "are you absolutely sure sir? it does mean changing the lightbulb."

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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:49 pm

Alyakia wrote:can you not think of something to celebrate that doesn't involve killing people and an "enemy"?

United Dependencies wrote:Is the Queen's Birthday not suitable enough?
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:49 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Alyakia wrote:can you not think of something to celebrate that doesn't involve killing people and an "enemy"?

United Dependencies wrote:Is the Queen's Birthday not suitable enough?


no.
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
DEFCON 0 - not at war
DEFCON 1 - at war "go to red alert!" "are you absolutely sure sir? it does mean changing the lightbulb."

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Alyakia
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:49 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Alyakia wrote:maybe we could take your earlier idea of reformation and combine it with military victory

we could have a march, perhaps a walk of some sort

it will be great

everyone will get so butthurt!!!


we could call it the red-yellow day parade.

the people who take part would be yellowy-red men.

reddy, yellowish.....

it'll come to me.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:50 pm

1st of May, the Act of Union which symbolised the coming together of England and Scotland as a fully official Union.

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:51 pm

Alyakia wrote:no

p.s. don't make it a celebration of a military victory

Battle of Hastings Day, October 14, was a significant military defeat for the English; you've never gotten rid of the descendants of those usurpers ever since.
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:51 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:no.

Magna Carta day?

I dunno, it's not my fault y'all didn't have to fight for your independence from someone.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:51 pm

United Dependencies wrote:Is the Queen's Birthday not suitable enough?

This is for everyone, not just civil servants.

And no, that's a lame holiday.

"Gilded Cunt Escape Day". It's just rubbish.
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:51 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:I think your standards are too high.

I think they're just right.


You're a perfectionist living in an imperfect world.

Alyakia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
I think your standards are too high.

can you not think of something to celebrate that doesn't involve killing people and an "enemy"?


Not that can be pinpointed to a single day, off the top of my head.

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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:53 pm

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Alyakia wrote:no

p.s. don't make it a celebration of a military victory

Battle of Hastings Day, October 14, was a significant military defeat for the English; you've never gotten rid of the descendants of those usurpers ever since.

I really do feel remorse at the loss of our Anglo-Saxon/Viking overlords who were always in power before, especially in the Celtic regions of the UK.
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:54 pm

Hydesland wrote:You're a perfectionist living in an imperfect world.

Couldn't we at least strive to not be terrible people?
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Postby Kirav » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:01 pm

The day that Britain defeated the rebellious American colonists and their smelly French allies.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:02 pm

Kirav wrote:The day that the UK defeated the rebellious American colonists and their smelly French allies.


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"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
DEFCON 0 - not at war
DEFCON 1 - at war "go to red alert!" "are you absolutely sure sir? it does mean changing the lightbulb."

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