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Do you support a 'national day' for the UK?

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Postby Serrland » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:41 am

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My point is, right now the May Day is just a cesspool of commies, idiotic leftist ideologies and whiny protesters waving red flags. Turning May Day into a National Day of the UK would erase the previous, leftist reputation of May 1st.

It probably wouldn't, but many people do/are celebrate it for more than the leftist slant of the modern one.


Don't be silly. Crowning a May Queen is really just code for Crowning the Female Head of the Vanguard of the United Proletariots of the World.

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Postby Horsefish » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:52 am

Ifreann wrote:People could nickname it Class-A Day.


Sign me up.

Serrland wrote:Don't be silly. Crowning a May Queen is really just code for Crowning the Female Head of the Vanguard of the United Proletariots of the World.


It all makes sense now.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:59 am

Tagmatium wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:On the tenuous grounds that, in keeping with saints Patrick, Andrew, David, and George, it would help to find a 'national' saint, I propose St. Alban or St. Aidan's Day, who are conveniently commemorated in June and August.

St. Alban (June 22); 'first martyr of Britain'; Romano-British [therefore Celtic] but shrine in England. In Anglican and Catholic traditions, the patron saint of refugees and torture victims, and therefore potentially deeply embarrassing to governments.

St. Aidan (August 31); Irish monk first based in Iona [Scotland] then Lindisfarne [England] - from where he converted Northumbria - so keeps almost everyone happy except the Welsh.

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Tagmatium wrote:Even though I'm not a Christian, St Alban would be a much better choice for a patron saint. He's at least from our neck of the woods.

Admittedly, he's not English.

It would be the 22nd of June.

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That's what I get for posting while jetlagged and only searching for 'Aidan', and not 'Alban'.

My excuse is that it was a long flight from London to Buenos Aires...

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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:00 am

Horsefish wrote:
Serrland wrote:Don't be silly. Crowning a May Queen is really just code for Crowning the Female Head of the Vanguard of the United Proletariots of the World.

It all makes sense now.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:02 am

7th of June.
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:07 am

It could be a good idea. We'll call it Britanniafest and have God Save the Queen blasted out in guitar while the Queen flies a refitted Concorde over Wembley, which of course will be full of fireworks that will go off afterwards.

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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:07 am

Chinese Regions wrote:7th of June.


I suggest 7th of July, because it's my birthday!

*Looks at 7th of July in a British context*

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:28 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I thought those were for republics.


heh.

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Postby Goram » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:38 am

Yootwopia wrote:
GOram wrote:September 15th.

Battle of Britain day.

A victory so amazing that after September 15th, 1940, there were no bomber strikes on any British city. Yes.


Not the point. We all know full well that the Germans continued bombing, however September 15th is Battle of Britain day, regardless of whether or not the Germans kept on bombing.

September 15th represents a battle the British ultimately won, so if you're going to talk about a British national day why not throw that one into the mix?

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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:42 am

GOram wrote:September 15th represents a battle the British ultimately won, so if you're going to talk about a British national day why not throw that one into the mix?

The main issue, in my eyes at least, with that is that it could be construed to taking a negative attitude towards the Germans.

Plus the fact that the Second World War is now over seventy years gone and we're still unhealthily fixated on it. People bleat about it all the time.
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Postby Yootwopia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:53 am

GOram wrote:Not the point. We all know full well that the Germans continued bombing, however September 15th is Battle of Britain day, regardless of whether or not the Germans kept on bombing.

So you're thinking of celebrating a victory that didn't mean anything. Ace.
September 15th represents a battle the British ultimately won, so if you're going to talk about a British national day why not throw that one into the mix?

Because battles are just for twats, really?
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Postby Celephais » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:03 am

Tagmatium wrote:Plus the fact that the Second World War is now over seventy years gone and we're still unhealthily fixated on it. People bleat about it all the time.


This. If we must celebrate a battle at least let's make it Agincourt or something (and then send all our lobster-skinned package holiday orcs to Calais as an advance beachhead!)
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Postby Angleter » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 am

1st May would do fine. A long-standing day of celebration across the UK, the anniversary of the day the British state came into existence (not the UK, so not really applicable to NI- but then, the Unionists will probably celebrate it anyway because it's British, and the Nationalists won't celebreate it anyway because it's British). Also, it absolves the need for another bank holiday, keeping in mind how the Royal Wedding was meant to have screwed the economy, and the trade unionists get to keep their day as well (given the movement to shift it to October).
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Postby Britannic Realms » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 am

6th December. The day the Anglo-Irish treaty came into effect, so the day that the modern United Kingdom was created.
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 am

I've got it:

Cinco de mayo.
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Postby Goram » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:56 am

Yootwopia wrote:
GOram wrote:Not the point. We all know full well that the Germans continued bombing, however September 15th is Battle of Britain day, regardless of whether or not the Germans kept on bombing.

So you're thinking of celebrating a victory that didn't mean anything. Ace.
September 15th represents a battle the British ultimately won, so if you're going to talk about a British national day why not throw that one into the mix?

Because battles are just for twats, really?


Strategically it meant nothing. For national pride, it meant and still can mean everything. Isn't national pride what a national day is supposedly about anyway?

And yes, as someone said below me, it might have an anti-German feel to it. That point I concede to you. Anyway, I'm not looking for an argument, the OP posed the question, that's simply my opinion.

Britannic Realms wrote:6th December. The day the Anglo-Irish treaty came into effect, so the day that the modern United Kingdom was created.


This would work rather well as well, I think.

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Postby Yootwopia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:22 am

GOram wrote:Strategically it meant nothing. For national pride, it meant and still can mean everything. Isn't national pride what a national day is supposedly about anyway?

Could we not do without, as the saving grace of this stupid country?

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Postby Central Lothian » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:19 pm

Stormaen wrote:The Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly have both dedicated a 'national day' within their respective countries (St. Andrew's Day (30 November) in Scotland and St. David's Day (1 March) in Wales). Within England, however, St. George's day (today, 23 April) is not a 'national day', likewise St. Patrick's day (17 March) is not a national day in Northern Ireland. In both cases, however, there are informal celebrations on these days.


Since Rebecca's in a pedantic mood, she'll bring up all the inaccuracies here:

-> March 1st isn't a Bank Holiday in Wales.
-> March 17th is a Bank Holiday in Northern Ireland.
-> It's not correct to say that November 30th is a Bank Holiday in Scotland: it's at the discretion of the company and, to have the day off, you have to give up one of the other Bank Holidays.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:23 pm

Yootwopia wrote:I'm not sure there's anything that everyone in the UK would celebrate. Also, are we not a bit old for all that? Seems like the kind of thing shit countries do.


I've always viewed the 5th of Nov as something of a national day...
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:34 pm

Black Pack wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
I've always viewed the 5th of Nov as something of a national day...


The anti-catholic history along with it being a celebration of a pre-Union event kind of makes it difficult to view as a national day.


the fight of the little man against overwhelming odds to make a point makes it an ideal national day ;)
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Postby Yootwopia » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:38 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Black Pack wrote:
The anti-catholic history along with it being a celebration of a pre-Union event kind of makes it difficult to view as a national day.


the fight of the little man against overwhelming odds to make a point makes it an ideal national day ;)

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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:42 pm

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:the fight of the little man against overwhelming odds to make a point makes it an ideal national day ;)

So we're going with the post-V for Vendetta interpretation then?

Only the ignorant really go for that one.

Basically, he was a Catholic shite who wanted to blow up a load of Protestant shites to bring in a load of Catholic shites to be shite to the Protestant shites.

Hurrah!
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:43 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
the fight of the little man against overwhelming odds to make a point makes it an ideal national day ;)

"Up Brittania, hurray for Guy Fawkes, a man who was tortured at length before his execution because he wanted to overthrow the monarchy and recreate a Catholic state, his story really says a lot about anything"


Ahhh you see...yer using history...not so useless right? :)

and his story as post by you...that'd be the overwhelming odds innit...

edit - and we love eccentrics right?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:44 pm

Black Pack wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
the fight of the little man against overwhelming odds to make a point makes it an ideal national day ;)


So we're going with the post-V for Vendetta interpretation then?


film or Alan Moore's masterpiece?
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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:51 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Black Pack wrote:
So we're going with the post-V for Vendetta interpretation then?

film or Alan Moore's masterpiece?

Presumably the film.

Because V was no hero.
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