The Slavic Thread!

[Scholencia]

The Hungarians wished to kind of "pin the Slavs down while they could". They knew industrial projects in different areas of the Empire would one day create a push for autonomy and independence, and didn't want to risk being surrounded by ambitious nations. Austria wanted to further development, whereas Hungary was more or less scared of the future.

Well, that is what I wanted to say. That is why the hungarian part of the monarchy was primarly agrucultural while the Austrian was industrial.

If EU membership was offered to Russia right now, it most likely would be shot down. It would lack the public support needed (most polls I've seen show support for the idea of joining at around 40%), nor politicians support it, especially those of the opposition groups. It's not a good idea anyway to go behind something that doesn't how major support, you tend to lose elections that way. Besides, Russia is already in the Customs Union and with the goal of having the Eurasian Union up and running in a few years.

Well, I agree with you about Russia. The country is large enough to be an economic superpower and therefore they dont need the EU at all. I was refering to countries like Belarus or the Ukraine where the people might have a good opinion about the EU.

Poland, slovakia, Czech Republic, Malta etc. have had all referendums in which they could decide if they want to merge with the EU or not. The majority of the Slavs decided to join the EU and to live in harmony with their other european nations. There also clues that even more Slavs will join the EU in future. You cannot do against the peoples will.

My problem is with how you worded it. Its nice to hear your opinion though.

So, you dont agree that the East europeans love the EU?

[Disserbia]

So, you dont agree that the East europeans love the EU?

Not all...

[Scholencia]

I dont wanna be boring but do you actually know why so many governments want to go to the EU and why the people support it?

[Disserbia]

I dont wanna be boring but do you actually know why so many governments want to go to the EU and why the people support it?

Yes I do, I used to be pro-EU. My issue with your comment was how it was phrased.

[Soviet Eurasian Union]

Well, I agree with you about Russia. The country is large enough to be an economic superpower and therefore they dont need the EU at all. I was refering to countries like Belarus or the Ukraine where the people might have a good opinion about the EU.

I have doubts that Belarus would have better polling results in the idea to join right now. Actually it may be worse, due to Belarus and the EU butting heads more so than Russia Federation and the EU. Belarus is also already a Customs Union member and working to help create the Eurasian Union. It also is much, much, more economically tied to Russia. Not just in regular trade, but Belarus enjoys great discounts and loans from Russia. Ukraine, I think you would see good results to the idea, in parts of it. As with other issues with Ukraine, it is tends to be divided deeply.

Edit- This is SRR. I forgot I was logged on this account.

[Al-Harakut al-Islami]

I think he is very sincere about it. I'm sure it will be one of his main goals during his third term, it would be a huge success for him to help make the Eurasian Union a reality. I'm hoping the goal of having it by 2015 is met, but worry it may be a couple more years after.

China, North Korea, Iran and Syria, as well as Southeast Asian countries should be included. It would be much bigger and stronger. I hope my country joins it as well, once we get rid of the current government and replace it with a Kemalist one...

Hey hey, a fellow Turk! A secular one, but a Turk just the same!
Merhaba ve Selam, dostum!

[Soviet Russia Republic]

China, North Korea, Iran and Syria, as well as Southeast Asian countries should be included. It would be much bigger and stronger. I hope my country joins it as well, once we get rid of the current government and replace it with a Kemalist one...

The PRC and Turkey would be be great members for sure! Iran, North Korea, and Syria with its internal conflict, I'm not too sure about. I know Vietnam has expressed interest in the Customs Union, so they may join the Eurasian Union as well.

[Velerik]

China, North Korea, Iran and Syria, as well as Southeast Asian countries should be included. It would be much bigger and stronger. I hope my country joins it as well, once we get rid of the current government and replace it with a Kemalist one...

Hey hey, a fellow Turk! A secular one, but a Turk just the same!
Merhaba ve Selam, dostum!

As for Chechens, Turkic =!= Turk

[Al-Harakut al-Islami]

Hey hey, a fellow Turk! A secular one, but a Turk just the same!
Merhaba ve Selam, dostum!

As for Chechens, Turkic =!= Turk

Indeed. We, as Turks on a Slavic thread, should be as one! Together, we can rule this thread, as the Turks once did! All shall fear us! Muhuahahahahaha~!!

[Velerik]

As for Chechens, Turkic =!= Turk

Indeed. We, as Turks on a Slavic thread, should be as one! Together, we can rule this thread, as the Turks once did! All shall fear us! Muhuahahahahaha~!!

Chechens don;t exactly have a history of massive conquering

[Shofercia]

Indeed. We, as Turks on a Slavic thread, should be as one! Together, we can rule this thread, as the Turks once did! All shall fear us! Muhuahahahahaha~!!

Chechens don;t exactly have a history of massive conquering

Nor do the Turks when it comes to Russia

[Al-Harakut al-Islami]

Indeed. We, as Turks on a Slavic thread, should be as one! Together, we can rule this thread, as the Turks once did! All shall fear us! Muhuahahahahaha~!!

Chechens don;t exactly have a history of massive conquering

Well, it's never too late to start

Chechens don;t exactly have a history of massive conquering

Nor do the Turks when it comes to Russia

Hey, we didn't fair too badly against you. Turks fought Russians, Russians fought Turks, and that's the way it's been.
A worthy opponent, I suppose we could consider each-other. Now, if you'll excuse me...

...I have a Russia to invade and a war to prepare for.

[Velerik]

Chechens don;t exactly have a history of massive conquering

Nor do the Turks when it comes to Russia

Chechen-on-Russian however? Hell yes

[Utopia FTW]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

[Sudenbergreich]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

Save yourself the trouble in surrounding yourself with Polish people.

Come to Austria!

See the culture! Spend money! PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!

[Al-Harakut al-Islami]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

Save yourself the trouble in surrounding yourself with Polish people.

Come to Austria!

See the culture! Spend money! PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!

TURKEY!!
Come on over to bright-and-shiny Istanbul! Experience an interesting clash of East and West, an interplay of civilizations like nowhere else in the world! Experience Istanbul's unique Islamic-on-Christian-on-pagan art and architecture, and the radiant sunsets on the gleaming, shimmering waters of the Bosphorus with the minarets silhouetted on the horizon must be seen to be believed! The ancient capital of culture in the Ottoman, Byzantine, and ancient Roman Empires!
And meet the fascinating people of Istanbul! In Istanbul, it doesn't matter if you're a Westerner or an Easterner, because we all want to take tourists' money~!

Anyone else want to advertise their hometown~?

[Soviet Russia Republic]

TURKEY!!
Come on over to bright-and-shiny Istanbul! Experience an interesting clash of East and West, an interplay of civilizations like nowhere else in the world! Experience Istanbul's unique Islamic-on-Christian-on-pagan art and architecture, and the radiant sunsets on the gleaming, shimmering waters of the Bosphorus with the minarets silhouetted on the horizon must be seen to be believed! The ancient capital of culture in the Ottoman, Byzantine, and ancient Roman Empires!
And meet the fascinating people of Istanbul! In Istanbul, it doesn't matter if you're a Westerner or an Easterner, because we all want to take tourists' money~!

Anyone else want to advertise their hometown~?

Take my money now!

Seriously, I've always wanted to visit Turkey. Hopefully one day I'll be able to.

[Ivan Norvi Kotowlzki]

Hey guys anyone like Jurassic Park? = viewtopic.php?f=31&t=202139

[Shofercia]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

Gwori

[Mehden]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

I liked Okocim's beers on average, but they do get about an average score according to critics. Zubrowka in those dandy little glasses paired with a decent cigar was always a worthy digestif, especially if you can get the drink homemade. In all, though, our neighbors to the west beat our asses (always with the Germans and the beatings) when it comes to brewing. Belvedere vodka of course is great, but you can get it most places anyway.


And my dear Turkish friends, let us not forget the Battle of Vienna, hm?

[Yanitza]

Nation Name: Yanitza
Nation Link:
Nationality: Australian (but not an anglo aussie, of Greek, French/Italian, Scottish heritage)
Your views on Pan-Slavism: i think it can be good as a way of a friendly cultural unifying force to bring people together, but i'm somewhat weary of some racist or supremacist ideas that may come of it. I'm more of a Pan Balkanist (not sure thats the word )
Your views on Slavic Countries: interested in a majority of them, especially Balkan ones
Your views on Slavic Governments:eh, i can't really comment as you can't make a generalisation like that
Which country/state do you live in: Australia
Where were you born: Australia
Your favorite thing about Slavic Culture: History, food, music (i loved Russian and Serbian rap, even though i can't understand it lol) languages (Balkan Sprachbund)
Favorite book/author/movie/music/etc: I love Dmitry Glukhovsky's book, Metro 2033 as well as artists like Beogradski sindikat, and AK 47

[Shofercia]

I am a Russian slav and proud of my roots!

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the slavs have already choosen their pan-union and that is the eu. it gives them stability, protection, economic growth and what so ever.

Not a whole lot of economic growth going on at the moment. And protection from whom?

Greetings Comrades! Руддщ сщькфвуы, рщц фку нщг. Ша фтнщту цфтеы ещ иу шт кзпы ин еру цфн фыл Ш рфму дшлу шму кзпы.

Hey, welcome

What language is that?

Greetings Comrades! Руддщ сщькфвуы, рщц фку нщг. Ша фтнщту цфтеы ещ иу шт кзпы ин еру цфн фыл Ш рфму дшлу шму кзпы.

Ruddshch sshch'kfvuy rshchts fku nshchg sha ftnshchtu tsftey eshch iu sht kzpy in ery tsfn fyl sh rfmu dshlu shmu kzpy to you too.

Translation: enough with politics, let's talk about girls!

As you wish Carmadin, here are girls and Ukrainian humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esnRWHuRv2c

Also: It wasn't just Slavs who were in the Empire, as this map stolen off wikipedia explains.

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The thing is - you guys exploited Slavs more brutally than you exploited other groups. And then you guys, (well Austria,) sided with Nazis in WWII. So not cool. Do we have to kick your ass, (military,) from time to time, to remind you who the real Untermensch are?

Nah, I'm just kidding, we don't think anyone's an Untermensch

There are still some Slavs that haven't joined the EU yet. Russia and Belarus have joined the Eurasian Union.

Because thoose Slavs are not democratic and they cannot join the EU. it would be interesting to see the reactions if they were offered to join.

Russia would instantly deny. After the turbulent 1990s, we don't trust enormous banks, which can influence policy. Also the whole Germany telling Serbia to settle on the Kosovo Issue as a requirement for membership is a bit of a dick move.

We never saw them as "subjects", just a non-autonomous part of the Empire. In the same sense how the British saw India or Australia at the time. Our treatment of the Slavs wasn't the best, sure; but we were still better than the Ottomans.

Actually, the Hungarians were tho one who threaten them bad. Sure, Austria had also some failures to but that was in the 18th and early 19th century. By the end of the 19th century they were quite good and gave the Poles autonomy, in Bohemia they established industry (to thanks to Czechoslovakia became the most industrial developed country in Europe during the 20ies and 30ies). There was even plans to reform the monarchy into some kind "united states"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... er_Austria

Archduke Ferdinand wanted to do that but unfortunately he was killed by serbian nationalists.

He wouldn't have been smart enough to pull it off. "Sir, there are assassination attempts on you along this rout, and some have failed!"
"Oh well, keep going!"

I mean that's just asking for a Darwin

[Shofercia]

SRR v Ris on making Italian-Slavic themed Pizzas? This is going to be good. Whoever loses, I still win!

*pats stomach*

Too easy. The Italian-flag-style pizza has already been made, and it's the Pizza Margherita - named after Queen Margherita di Savoia: basil for green, mozzarella for white and tomato for red.

Considering that the Slavic flags often sport white-red-blue, the problem would be finding something blue for a Panslavic pizza... caviar is either reddish or black. Maybe some Czech cheese with a bluish mould? I have to think about that.

Why not Blue Cheese?

China, North Korea, Iran and Syria, as well as Southeast Asian countries should be included. It would be much bigger and stronger. I hope my country joins it as well, once we get rid of the current government and replace it with a Kemalist one...

Hey hey, a fellow Turk! A secular one, but a Turk just the same!
Merhaba ve Selam, dostum!

And that's one of the many reasons why I love Slavic Culture - we accept all languages

Nor do the Turks when it comes to Russia

Hey, we didn't fair too badly against you. Turks fought Russians, Russians fought Turks, and that's the way it's been.
A worthy opponent, I suppose we could consider each-other. Now, if you'll excuse me...

...I have a Russia to invade and a war to prepare for.

Hmmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _conflicts

Russia 8 - Ottoman Empire 4. I supposed that's not too bad against Russia

Nor do the Turks when it comes to Russia

Chechen-on-Russian however? Hell yes

Same odds as the Ottomans have

Nation Name: Yanitza
Nation Link:
Nationality: Australian (but not an anglo aussie, of Greek, French/Italian, Scottish heritage)
Your views on Pan-Slavism: i think it can be good as a way of a friendly cultural unifying force to bring people together, but i'm somewhat weary of some racist or supremacist ideas that may come of it. I'm more of a Pan Balkanist (not sure thats the word )
Your views on Slavic Countries: interested in a majority of them, especially Balkan ones
Your views on Slavic Governments:eh, i can't really comment as you can't make a generalisation like that
Which country/state do you live in: Australia
Where were you born: Australia
Your favorite thing about Slavic Culture: History, food, music (i loved Russian and Serbian rap, even though i can't understand it lol) languages (Balkan Sprachbund)
Favorite book/author/movie/music/etc: I love Dmitry Glukhovsky's book, Metro 2033 as well as artists like Beogradski sindikat, and AK 47

About generalizations - sure you can, everyone else did.

Welcome to the thread Yanitza, about damn time you made it!

Speaking of Russo-Serbian Rap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnus5yr03Lc

That Polish Girl, Martina, has a really nice voice!

[Miasto Lodz]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

As for the beer, I would suggest any unpasteurized wheat beer made by small breweries, like Ciechan, Konstancin or Amber.

[Shofercia]

Hey Poles and ppl that have been to Poland; Which are the best local beers to try, and spirits/liquers to look for? I will be visting in early december.

As for the beer, I would suggest any unpasteurized wheat beer made by small breweries, like Ciechan, Konstancin or Amber.

That's a cool name - Browar Amber

It's like "bro, gimme Amber, it'll beat war fo sho'!"