The Slavic Thread!

[Exi1and]

I wanted someone to arrest her. She is the one who should be on trial, not the heroes of the war, such as Mladic and Karadzic.

Mladić and Karadzić heroes? If executing people makes you a hero, sure...

If it were not for people like them, the Serbian cities like Srebrenica by Bosniaks will be controlled now.

[Scholencia]

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/oct20 ... -o05.shtml

Following weeks of talks with the troika, Athens presented an initial draft budget in parliament on Monday. The budget involves social spending cuts of more than €7 billion for the next year. The largest sums are to be slashed from public employees’ wages (€1.1 billion) and pensions (€3.8 billion). Additional cuts are to be made in social welfare, health care, education and public services.

I dont see what is here contentious. The Greeks are having a debt that they have made by their own and now they must pay it or whole Europe goes down with them. That all would not happened if their governmet was responsible. And if the ECB dont warn them who would? In my opinion, The greeks should leave the Union and spare the others of disaster, furthermore they could join the Russian federation so they could pay their debts.

Rakija, gotta remember that! And yep, I'm watching hockey, my KHL Club is Torpedo, and I think, (although I know I'm totally biased here,) that we have the coolest logo

(Image)

What's your team called?

This year we had two games in this place:



i already see, the bear will eat the deer for lunch.

I guess it makes sense if you grew up in one of the more benign Austrian places, but in most of A-H, it wasn't good. I think that the only way A-H could've survived is that if they allowed regional autonomy, and adherence to a national army. But they were too scared to allow regional autonomy in some places, so...

Well, that is exactly what Ive tried to say in previous posts. That is what FF tried to do, to federalise the monarhy

The main reason is that most of the Serbs living in North Kosovo view Thaci as a butcher, and don't want to be forcibly transferred under his control. I don't want Russians under the control of foreigners, (unless Russians voluntarily move there,) why would I force the Serbs, or other human beings, to do the same? North Kosovo is better off under Serbia, let it stay that way.

So, why do you than give the same right for Georgia since Russia has troops in this teo artifical states? What is the name again of this "states" again? Oshiti...Osssiria???

I believe that some Serbs fought for the Red Army as well, just as some Croats fought for the White Army. Tito fought in WWI, bravely, but foolishly. In the Russian Civil War - that's where he learned how to fight, and the knowledge would serve him well in liberating Yugoslavia from Nazi scum!

For Croats I am sure that there was no in the Whites since croatia was not pro-Entente. Serbia indeed send volunteers for the Whites and also the White immigration went to Kingdom SHS after the war (Wrangel for example). Serbs also didnt have the motive for fighting for the reds although I see you really wish that it had.

i think he first learned to fight against Russian imperialist. Even later he wasnt pro-Russian later, I suppose you heard for the Nacked Island....

[Shofercia]

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/oct20 ... -o05.shtml

I dont see what is here contentious. The Greeks are having a debt that they have made by their own and now they must pay it or whole Europe goes down with them. That all would not happened if their governmet was responsible. And if the ECB dont warn them who would? In my opinion, The greeks should leave the Union and spare the others of disaster, furthermore they could join the Russian federation so they could pay their debts.

I won't mind Greece joining the Russian Federation

However, that's a bit unrealistic. Thing is, when California was in financial trouble, we invested in education, and it helped. We didn't cut education. Wall Street advisers advised us to invest in education via bonds. And it worked. Why aren't they giving the same, effective, advice to Greece? I think it's because Greece isn't as important as California to the World's Economy, so they feel they can hit Greece with massive austerity, and as for the Greeks, screw em. Thing is though, austerity fails. Doesn't work. So with austerity, Greeks won't be able to repay their debt. If I'm uneducated, I can only earn so much, and if my debt is vastly higher than my earnings, I can't pay it all back.

Rakija, gotta remember that! And yep, I'm watching hockey, my KHL Club is Torpedo, and I think, (although I know I'm totally biased here,) that we have the coolest logo

(Image)

What's your team called?

This year we had two games in this place:



i already see, the bear will eat the deer for lunch.

I'm very excited to have Zagreb join the KHL, about damn time! As for Russians not being able to beat Bears, yeah, riiiiight. We'll see how it goes, but I think we'll pwn you guys!

I guess it makes sense if you grew up in one of the more benign Austrian places, but in most of A-H, it wasn't good. I think that the only way A-H could've survived is that if they allowed regional autonomy, and adherence to a national army. But they were too scared to allow regional autonomy in some places, so...

Well, that is exactly what Ive tried to say in previous posts. That is what FF tried to do, to federalise the monarhy

And my point is that he'd end up like Woodrow Wilson. Great on paper, complete failure in reality.

The main reason is that most of the Serbs living in North Kosovo view Thaci as a butcher, and don't want to be forcibly transferred under his control. I don't want Russians under the control of foreigners, (unless Russians voluntarily move there,) why would I force the Serbs, or other human beings, to do the same? North Kosovo is better off under Serbia, let it stay that way.

So, why do you than give the same right for Georgia since Russia has troops in this teo artifical states? What is the name again of this "states" again? Oshiti...Osssiria???

Oshitia? Seriously? Dude, I thought we're passed kindergarten puns. You can look it up, it's Ossetia. Why don't I give Georgia the same right? Because their madman dictator, I'm sorry, democratically elected leader, launched a war against Russia, and lost. You start a war against Russia and lose, you lose. And he totally started it, because on August 5th, Russia clearly stated that Russia will defend South Ossetia and Abkhazia, if those places are attacked. On August 7th - Saakashvili launched the attack. During the initial stages, he deliberately hit the JPKF Peacekeeping Base, which was a de facto declaration of war against Russia, causing the EU to remark: "Georgia Stated Unjustified War".

That whole thing aside, South Ossetia and Abkhazia were never De Facto part of Georgia. According to Raisanovsky's maps, Georgia joined the Russian Empire in 1801, Abkhazia in 1822. So Abkhazia wasn't part of Georgia before that. While they were both part of the Russian Empire, it didn't really matter, since Georgia and Abkhazia didn't have any borders between them. When it was a part of the Russian Empire, the capital of Ossetia was Vladikavkaz, founded in 1784. Not 1801. Ossetia, both North and South, was united within the Russian Empire.

Then you had the Russian Civil War, and the cry of "hurr durr independence". Except Georgia failed to win independence, and remained a part of the USSR. Interestingly enough, until Stalin came to power, the Caucasus Region wasn't quite that bad. Indeed, one can blame three key figures for the Caucasian Wars of the early 1990s: Stalin, who created the conflict, Gorbachev, who revived Stalin's conflict with Operation Ring, and Yetlsin, under whose watch the conflict occurred, a conflict which he failed to resolve.

First Stalin proceeded to forcibly unite Abkhazia with Georgia, and then repudiate South Ossetia's ASSR status, then deport the Chechens, but not before giving Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan. Geez, let's check out the wars that happened in the 1990s: Nagorno-Karabakh War, Ossetian War, Abkhaz War, First Chechen War, it's, as if they match Stalin's failure with an 100% match ratio. Oh wait, they do! Then came Gorbachev, and Operation Ring: the plan was to forcibly remove people from villages, and leave a shitload of guns and ammunition lying around - that, much like anything else Gorbachev did, failed miserably. It started the N-K War, which led to the Ossetian & Abkhaz Wars, which led to the First Chechen War.

So, I ask, for what time period was Abkhazia ever, a De Facto part of Georgia? Ever? Yeah, that's right, never. When were South Ossetia and North Ossetia divided by a national border? Be a bit tough to find that time period. And suddenly, because Dolts United said so, the people are supposed to accept that?

On the other hand, Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for centuries. De Facto. As in, Serbs ruled it. So yeah, Kosovo ain't the same thing as Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Moreover, from a strictly humanitarian perspective, in the case of South Ossetia and Abkhazia - the situation isn't too volatile. Georgian constitute a fifth of the population of Abkhazia, and they've grown in number. In Ossetia, prior to the 2008 Ossetian War, Georgians constituted a quarter of the population. When Saakashvili started the war, some fled, some didn't, and those who didn't flee were allowed to stay, even though they lost the war. Obviously if you fought on Saakashvili's side, you weren't wanted.

Compare this with Kosovo, where Albanians constitute over 90% of the population, and Serbs are at 1.5%, according to official Albanian census. In Abkhazia the main group barely holds a majority, and in Ossetia, it was two-thirds before the 2008 Ossetian War. Can someone say "hello discrimination, how are ya?"

Additionally, Vladikavkaz had a say in governing Ossetia, all of Ossetia. Sukhumi had a say in governing Abkhazia, all of Abkhazia. Pristina has never governed North Kosovo. Never. And the people there don't want said government.

I believe that some Serbs fought for the Red Army as well, just as some Croats fought for the White Army. Tito fought in WWI, bravely, but foolishly. In the Russian Civil War - that's where he learned how to fight, and the knowledge would serve him well in liberating Yugoslavia from Nazi scum!

For Croats I am sure that there was no in the Whites since croatia was not pro-Entente. Serbia indeed send volunteers for the Whites and also the White immigration went to Kingdom SHS after the war (Wrangel for example). Serbs also didnt have the motive for fighting for the reds although I see you really wish that it had.

i think he first learned to fight against Russian imperialist. Even later he wasnt pro-Russian later, I suppose you heard for the Nacked Island....

Nacked Island, nope. My point is that Serbia might have fought for the Whites, and Croatia might have fought for the Reds, but there were some individual Serbs who fought in the Red Army, just as there were some individual Croats who fought in the White Army. People aren't countries. And Tito kinda sucked at fighting the Csarist Army - he got reckless and he was captured. With that skill set, he wouldn't be successful at leading the Partisan Movement. The skill set he needed was the one that he picked up when serving with the Red Army.

[Lissiona]

I just laughed so hard reading the anti Serb speech on page one lol. When ww1 came around they killed Serb civilians (Croats), when the kingdom of Yugoslavia came to be they were the only ethnic group with their own state, they repay Serbs for that when ww2 rolls in killing 750 thousand Serbs and help Germans destroy the kingdom. Then Tito the Croat rises to power and suppresses the Serbs. Don't believe Tito propaganda saying he was fair, just google what he did to Serbs. He did everything to take our land from us and split our homeland up. For example after world war 2, 220 thousand Serbs left Kosovo and wished to return. He refused them in, opened the borders and settled thousands of Albanians on land that belonged to refugees who could not come back and claim it. More so his favourism for Croatia is proven with the fate of Moshe piadaj a Jewish communist. He proposed Croatia is spilt up similar to how Serbia was. Tito managed to take Serbia and carve Vojvodina, Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, and montengro. Moshe's idea was to have Croatia split between Dalmatia, istra, and krajina. Well he was sent to goli otok work camp and executed. Then when Croatia did finally split from Yugoslavia and the Serbs living there recalled the actions of the Ustashi that slaughtered their people only 50 year earlier and wished to form their own state they were called evil and terrorists. Tudjman gave speeches and was quoted that Ustashi actions were justified. Regardless I don't know why Croatia can split but their ethnic Serb majority region krajina which was given to Serbs by Austria in the 1600s had no right. In the end Serbs signed a peace treaty in krajina and put down their arms only for the Croats to break it and drive 300,000 Serbs and killing some 5 thousand. To all you who think the Yugoslav war was Serbs vs Croats vs Bosnians it wasn't. For the most part it was communist money lovers vs Croats vs Bosnians. The Jna could of smashed both states in the first 2 years but they didn't. The pro longed it and tried to have talks and stupid political garbage.

[Lissiona]

Hey guys go type in google the republic of western Bosnia. Go look what Alijas Bosnian army did to his own people. Sebrenica explained. Nasser Oric operated in the city for majority of the war using the safe heaven status to attack Serb villages and commit atrocities. Serbs began to plan the taking of the sebrenica after the Christmas Day massacre were Nasser slaughtered an entire village of Serbs on Christmas Day then retired back to sebrenica. When Serbs came into the city which the Dutch welcomed them because they knew of what was going on, Serbs rounded up milita men Bosnians and killed them to exact revenge which would be what any human does. But look up attacks on Serbs from sebrenica leading up to the massacre. We're are the bodies of Serbs? They exhume the bodies and say another Muslim mass grave? Is there a DNA Muslim strand that shows the difference between Serbs and Muslims? Easily half of the supposed 8000 Bosnians are bosnian Serb bodies. Go look up general Lewis Mackenzie on his views of being un general there.

[Central European Commonwealth]

Mladić and Karadzić heroes? If executing people makes you a hero, sure...

If it were not for people like them, the Serbian cities like Srebrenica by Bosniaks will be controlled now.

I think we should go for regime change in Mińsk.

[Bordurian]

If it were not for people like them, the Serbian cities like Srebrenica by Bosniaks will be controlled now.

I think we should go for regime change in Mińsk.

I second the motion.

[Shofercia]

I think we should go for regime change in Mińsk.

I second the motion.

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

[Risottia]

I second the motion.

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

We could promise Putin a whole trainload of bunga-bunga girls if he allows the Belarusians to get rid of Lukas'enko.

[Shofercia]

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

We could promise Putin a whole trainload of bunga-bunga girls if he allows the Belarusians to get rid of Lukas'enko.

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia for his amazing handling of the economy, and the wars: http://themoscownews.com/people/20120319/189546510.html

There is plenty of stuff in this world to be perpetually heartbroken about – wars, massacres and repression among them – but today I’d like to take some time to lament the fact that far too many people in Russia consider Philipp Kirkorov sexy.

The Bulgarian-born pop star was rated Russia’s sexiest man by a poll conducted this month by the Levada Center, Russia’s biggest independent polling agency.

The top five were rounded out by stripper Tarzan, most famous for being married to singer Natasha Korolyova, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (who, I’m sure, was delighted to find himself in such exalted company), billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov (possibly the only predictable member of this list and he isn’t even half bad to look at), and cheesy tenor Nikolai Baskov.

[Bering]

We could promise Putin a whole trainload of bunga-bunga girls if he allows the Belarusians to get rid of Lukas'enko.

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia for his amazing handling of the economy, and the wars: http://themoscownews.com/people/20120319/189546510.html

There is plenty of stuff in this world to be perpetually heartbroken about – wars, massacres and repression among them – but today I’d like to take some time to lament the fact that far too many people in Russia consider Philipp Kirkorov sexy.

The Bulgarian-born pop star was rated Russia’s sexiest man by a poll conducted this month by the Levada Center, Russia’s biggest independent polling agency.

The top five were rounded out by stripper Tarzan, most famous for being married to singer Natasha Korolyova, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (who, I’m sure, was delighted to find himself in such exalted company), billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov (possibly the only predictable member of this list and he isn’t even half bad to look at), and cheesy tenor Nikolai Baskov.

He might do it if the new guy would support the Union State

[Bordurian]

I second the motion.

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

[Shofercia]

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia for his amazing handling of the economy, and the wars: http://themoscownews.com/people/20120319/189546510.html

He might do it if the new guy would support the Union State

It's up to the Belorussian people. If they want to merge with us, say no more, we'll do it. If they don't, it's cool, and we'll still remain strong allies

It doesn't matter who the leader is, it's up to the Belorussian people.

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

Or, we could admit Belarus to the CoE, and threaten Lukashenko with expulsion unless he enforces all of the human rights laws that aren't related to the presidential elections, and see a massive improvement in human rights in Belarus

[Exi1and]

Hey guys go type in google the republic of western Bosnia. Go look what Alijas Bosnian army did to his own people. Sebrenica explained. Nasser Oric operated in the city for majority of the war using the safe heaven status to attack Serb villages and commit atrocities. Serbs began to plan the taking of the sebrenica after the Christmas Day massacre were Nasser slaughtered an entire village of Serbs on Christmas Day then retired back to sebrenica. When Serbs came into the city which the Dutch welcomed them because they knew of what was going on, Serbs rounded up milita men Bosnians and killed them to exact revenge which would be what any human does. But look up attacks on Serbs from sebrenica leading up to the massacre. We're are the bodies of Serbs? They exhume the bodies and say another Muslim mass grave? Is there a DNA Muslim strand that shows the difference between Serbs and Muslims? Easily half of the supposed 8000 Bosnians are bosnian Serb bodies. Go look up general Lewis Mackenzie on his views of being un general there.

It is good to see that there are people who recognize the truth of what happened.

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

Or, we could admit Belarus to the CoE, and threaten Lukashenko with expulsion unless he enforces all of the human rights laws that aren't related to the presidential elections, and see a massive improvement in human rights in Belarus

Human rights in Belarus is fine, they should not be "improved" from the West.

[Kvatchdom]

I'm in as well.

Nation Name: National Republic of Kvatchdom
Nation Link: Kvatchdom
Nationality: Finnish-Ukrainian
Your views on Pan-Slavism: A rather awesome thought, but would be hard to actually bring it up before pro-Russianism.
Your views on Slavic Countries: Amazing culture, language, plus the people are much nicer than here in Finland.
Your views on Slavic Governments: Not all that good.
Languages that you speak: Finnish, English, Swedish, Spanish, bit of Russian.
Which country/state do you live in: Finland.
Where were you born: Ukraine.
Your favorite thing about Slavic Culture: Their buildings, and the way they drink. Finnish people just drink, get drunk, and pass out while yelling slurs. Slavic people make it an art.
Favorite book/author/movie/music/etc: Vladimir Lenin's writings are a good reading, yeah.

Whoah, nice language list! Also, I really love your fave thing about the Slavic Culture: the way they drink. Finnish people just drink, get drunk, and pass out while yelling slurs. Slavic people make it an art.

That is just... awesome

Ok, so, I have to ask: what's your fave thing about the Slavic Drinking Culture?

Well,it's true

The Slavic way of drinking, on my experience has been this: Group up, drink, dance, drink, eat, dance,drink, drink, walk around the streets drunk, drink more, and go to sleep. The Finnish way is this: Group up, drink, pass out.

[Risottia]

We could promise Putin a whole trainload of bunga-bunga girls if he allows the Belarusians to get rid of Lukas'enko.

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia

Damn. How about some 6 villas in Sardinia? Putin hasn't got them afaik.

[Miasto Lodz]

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia

Damn. How about some 6 villas in Sardinia? Putin hasn't got them afaik.

Russian Black Sea coast is not bad either.

[Bordurian]

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

Or, we could admit Belarus to the CoE, and threaten Lukashenko with expulsion unless he enforces all of the human rights laws that aren't related to the presidential elections, and see a massive improvement in human rights in Belarus [/quote]
That would work too.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

I don't think that declaring war on Russia is all that great an idea. Doesn't really work out, and Belarus is allied with Russia, so the whole military option thingy is out of the question.

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

And if the people of Belarus do not want that? What if someone comes to power that is worse for Belarus and its neighbors? We've seen this before with with other countries.

It's not like Belarus isn't under economic pressure by some anyway. There's no reason to add more economic problems to Belarus, which would hurt the people.

[Bordurian]

I'm merely saying that we should try to put pressure international on Lushenko to step down. Perhaps some under the table deals could be done with Putin to have him allow it to happen.

And if the people of Belarus do not want that? What if someone comes to power that is worse for Belarus and its neighbors? We've seen this before with with other countries.

It's not like Belarus isn't under economic pressure by some anyway. There's no reason to add more economic problems to Belarus, which would hurt the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Lushenko is very unpopular there.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

And if the people of Belarus do not want that? What if someone comes to power that is worse for Belarus and its neighbors? We've seen this before with with other countries.

It's not like Belarus isn't under economic pressure by some anyway. There's no reason to add more economic problems to Belarus, which would hurt the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Lushenko is very unpopular there.

Don't know. I haven't seen a recent poll myself. They tend to often range a bit from one poll to the other at similar times too, so its hard to say. I'd imagine it couldn't be real good to say the least due to the country's economy. I know that some reforms are being made by their government more recently though.

Even if he is not popular, that doesn't mean possible replacements in the country are popular or would be better for Belarus and region. It is also one thing to dislike a leader and than wanting foreign countries to interfere in shaping your country. What method of pressure do you suggest also. Negative economic isn't going to help anyone and general isolation of the country is likely going makes things worse if anything. Besides, Belarus main trading buddies are unlikely not going to follow suit unless Belarus acts against them. It's main trading partner Russia isn't even going have the support of it's own people on going against Belarus, especially given the special ties. Belarus could always try to go to China as well to replace Russian loans.

[Central European Commonwealth]

And if the people of Belarus do not want that? What if someone comes to power that is worse for Belarus and its neighbors? We've seen this before with with other countries.

It's not like Belarus isn't under economic pressure by some anyway. There's no reason to add more economic problems to Belarus, which would hurt the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Lushenko is very unpopular there.

Every Białorussian I've met here in Kraków is very unhappy about Łukaszenko... But those are the ones that can travel outside of their country and are exposed to different ideas than the garbage they're exposed through in the state media.

[Shofercia]

Whoah, nice language list! Also, I really love your fave thing about the Slavic Culture: the way they drink. Finnish people just drink, get drunk, and pass out while yelling slurs. Slavic people make it an art.

That is just... awesome

Ok, so, I have to ask: what's your fave thing about the Slavic Drinking Culture?

Well,it's true

The Slavic way of drinking, on my experience has been this: Group up, drink, dance, drink, eat, dance,drink, drink, walk around the streets drunk, drink more, and go to sleep. The Finnish way is this: Group up, drink, pass out.

You forgot horrible singing! How could you! "A nam vsyo ravno, a nam vsyo ravno..."

On a more serious note, thank you for mentioning that, it made my day. Speaking of that, there's a Russian Halloween Party I'm going to on Friday, dressed as none other than Putin

However, unlike Berlusconi, Putin won't take those Bunga-Bunga girls. He doesn't need them, he's got Rock Status in Russia

Damn. How about some 6 villas in Sardinia? Putin hasn't got them afaik.

Rumors are that he owns 5% of Gazprom. Is that enough to buy Sardinia?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Lushenko is very unpopular there.

Every Białorussian I've met here in Kraków is very unhappy about Łukaszenko... But those are the ones that can travel outside of their country and are exposed to different ideas than the garbage they're exposed through in the state media.

Well, he's been more and more unpopular since 2011, after his economic reforms failed. But he's still loved by quite a few people, because he didn't royally fuck up Belarus in the 1990's. One of my friends hates him, but says that his entire family loves him. Thing is though, people hate him for doing stupid things, not enough to really piss them off, cause one of the things my friend ranted, was Lukashenko's mandate that only Lukashenko approved songs can be played on the radio for at least 12 out of the 24 hours, and the other 12 are fair game. So yeah - that's classic Lukashenko, repressive, but only halfway there, and even then, only in terms of Civil Rights, as he respects the UNCHR on Social Rights

[Risottia]

Damn. How about some 6 villas in Sardinia? Putin hasn't got them afaik.

Rumors are that he owns 5% of Gazprom. Is that enough to buy Sardinia?

If you ask me, I'd PAY for someone to take Sardinia away... but I'm afraid Sardinians are of a different opinion.

[Shofercia]

Rumors are that he owns 5% of Gazprom. Is that enough to buy Sardinia?

If you ask me, I'd PAY for someone to take Sardinia away... but I'm afraid Sardinians are of a different opinion.

Is Sardinia kind of like the Texas of Italy?