Understanding Leftist Mentality

[San Monteriano]

Keep pushing the 'Liberal Agenda', my left-aligned friends! Soon, soon, we shall dominate the entire world with rationalism, idealism, human rights, democracy and a whole box-load of evil and antagonizing ideals and beliefs.

...

Oh, wait.

[Todlichebujoku]

Let's just say that conservatives will never fully understand liberals and liberals will never fully understand conservatives, okay?

[Nidaria]

Keep pushing the 'Liberal Agenda', my left-aligned friends! Soon, soon, we shall dominate the entire world with rationalism, idealism, human rights, democracy and a whole box-load of evil and antagonizing ideals and beliefs.

...

Oh, wait.

Human rights and democracy (which existed to a limited extent before then) are the only good things that came out of liberalism.

[Aorum]

My father taught me that people expect everyon to be like them. If someone tells you that people are bad and need to be regulated, you can bet your bottom pound sterling that they themself are a bad person. If someone advocates de-regulation, then that is near as damn it proof that they are a decent human being.

That just reminds me of all the religious folk who claim 'If I didn't have divine law to guide me, I'd be killing and raping all day long'. It's also the conservatives who want to regulate people, and the left that wants to regulate business.

In my opinion it is impossible to be moral and religious, largelly due to the fact that I share your opinion entirely.

[The Black Forrest]

So you find one person who abuses the system and we should cancel it?

Your ignorance and inattention astounds me. I never said we should cancel the welfare system, I said we should not give resources to that "one person who abuses the system". If he does not need it, he should not receive it.

Ok. So you have a question without any numbers in an effort to discredit a system you don't like?

Or are you simply seeking to apply some character flaw to the both of us?

So how do you measure "not wanting to work" and how would you keep track of it?

[Laerod]

Let's just say that conservatives will never fully understand liberals and liberals will never fully understand conservatives, okay?

They're both center right ideologies. The overlap between the two is staggering.

[Nidaria]

Your ignorance and inattention astounds me. I never said we should cancel the welfare system, I said we should not give resources to that "one person who abuses the system". If he does not need it, he should not receive it.

Ok. So you have a question without any numbers in an effort to discredit a system you don't like?

Or are you simply seeking to apply some character flaw to the both of us?

So how do you measure "not wanting to work" and how would you keep track of it?

If you do not directly answer my question the way I meant it, you will be proving that liberals cannot answer a question intelligently.

[The Black Forrest]

Ok. So you have a question without any numbers in an effort to discredit a system you don't like?

Or are you simply seeking to apply some character flaw to the both of us?

So how do you measure "not wanting to work" and how would you keep track of it?

If you do not directly answer my question the way I meant it, you will be proving that liberals cannot answer a question intelligently.

*shrugs*

You asked a question and we asked clarification.

Maybe you need a better question.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

Let's just say that conservatives will never fully understand liberals and liberals will never fully understand conservatives, okay?

A argument thread does not simply agree with the opposing side

[Todlichebujoku]

Let's just say that conservatives will never fully understand liberals and liberals will never fully understand conservatives, okay?

They're both center right ideologies. The overlap between the two is staggering.

If that's so then they just hate each other for the sake of hating.

[Nidaria]

If you do not directly answer my question the way I meant it, you will be proving that liberals cannot answer a question intelligently.

*shrugs*

You asked a question and we asked clarification.

Maybe you need a better question.

And that, my friends, is why it is impossible to engage liberals in intelligent debate. One asks them a valid question, and they evade it by going off into a completely different direction. If one keeps pressing it, eventually they will claim that the question is inadequate.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

Ok. So you have a question without any numbers in an effort to discredit a system you don't like?

Or are you simply seeking to apply some character flaw to the both of us?

So how do you measure "not wanting to work" and how would you keep track of it?

If you do not directly answer my question the way I meant it, you will be proving that liberals cannot answer a question intelligently.

So one person is the entire ideology.

You make much sense.

[Celephais]

Keep pushing the 'Liberal Agenda', my left-aligned friends! Soon, soon, we shall dominate the entire world with rationalism, idealism, human rights, democracy and a whole box-load of evil and antagonizing ideals and beliefs.

...

Oh, wait.

And this is why 'liberals' are as blindly partisan and sloganeering as the worst megachurch freak. Democracy? Would have resulted in the Muslim Brotherhood many times in Egypt. Human rights? Ahahahaha what does that have to do with rationalism or anything really except "because I say so" superstition. Idealism? Invented by Plato, who was hardly a liberal in any meaningful sense of the word.

I've noticed that those who trumpet their rationality and reason the most very rarely are the most reasonable or rational of people… half of leftist psychology seems to be an attachment to novelty-seeking for its own sake and a refusal to understand the purposes of conventions and traditions in lieu of belittling or sweeping them aside.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

They're both center right ideologies. The overlap between the two is staggering.

If that's so then they just hate each other for the sake of hating.

And that's how the human race works my friends.

[The Black Forrest]

*shrugs*

You asked a question and we asked clarification.

Maybe you need a better question.

And that, my friends, is why it is impossible to engage liberals in intelligent debate. One asks them a valid question, and they evade it by going off into a completely different direction. If one keeps pressing it, eventually they will claim that the question is inadequate.

Oh the irony.


-edit hmmm something happened to my post-

Alright for the fun of it; let's answer your question with a no.

Let's see where you are going with it.

[The Black Forrest]

If you do not directly answer my question the way I meant it, you will be proving that liberals cannot answer a question intelligently.

So one person is the entire ideology.

You make much sense.

Isn't it all one hive-mind?

[Indira]

The lion doesn't negotiate with the zebra.
The great white shark doesn't negotiate with the sea lion.
The zombies don't negotiate to eat your brains.

All you can do with liberals is postpone them by defeating them in elections and praying that their own choices bite them in the backside, waking them to the real world.

Is no-compromise macho crap really an intelligent ideology for leadership?

No. But the American right wing does seem to be made up of people like that it seems.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

legit question

Why do liberal hate macho-ism?

[Socialdemokraterne]

Tell me then whether we should give free food and money to those who are able to work but choose not to.

I understand what you're aiming at, but it's not as simple as just shaving off the people who are choosing not to work. What constitutes "choosing not to work"? If someone submits applications and has a resume posted on job-hunting websites, but hasn't found work in the last 6 months do they fall in this category? If not, how many applications need to be submitted each month in order for the person to be considered "trying" and thus avoid being classed as "choosing not to work"? One? Ten? A thousand? How long do they have before simply submitting applications no longer counts as "trying" and becomes "choosing not to work"? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? All eternity?

In principle, no we should not give money and food to people who are just leeching off of the system. In practice, such people are harder to parse out than all that.

[Khadgar]

legit question

Why do liberal hate macho-ism?

Because the size of your cock doesn't determine the correctness of your ideas?

[Celephais]

legit question

Why do liberal hate macho-ism?

Do you mean macho or masculinity? I thought macho meant stupid "look at me funny and I cut you with a switchblade" stuff.

If you mean the fear, hatred of, and misunderstanding of masculinity from various sections of the left (rags like the Guardian and various campus feminists sure are stepping up their "Let's have new forms of masculinity dictated by meeeeee!" thing), well I'd say the type of people who are into that are just genetic dead-ends who are projecting their feelings of inferiority. Tall poppy syndrome, basically. But it's important to remember that that's hardly the whole Left!

[The Andromeda Islands]

I glanced over the article in the link.

I suspect the author attended a Community College.

Education has never been a defense against ideology.

Republican wingnuts are more likely to have a four-year degree than the general population.

I should have been more nuanced in my comment.

1) If you read the actual article, the author chooses to make assumptions about all liberals based on what he saw from a few students in one class. This isn't a smart thing to do.

2) I agree with the author that the dismissive attitude he saw in those classes wasn't very smart either.

The reason I suspect that the author attended a Community College was because I actually read the article. If the account of the class is accurate, I can at least assume that this is an entry level class at college.

Stupidity isn't exclusive to liberals, or conservatives.

[Socialdemokraterne]

legit question

Why do liberal hate macho-ism?

Legit answer:

I don't give a rip about macho-ism when it doesn't evolve into chauvinism, assuming you mean machismo. People can express their masculinity as strongly as they like, they just ought to avoid breaking down women in the process.

[Khadgar]

legit question

Why do liberal hate macho-ism?

Legit answer:

I don't give a rip about macho-ism when it doesn't evolve into chauvinism, assuming you mean machismo. People can express their masculinity as strongly as they like, they just ought to avoid breaking down women in the process.

Plus the hooting and chest thumping can be quite funny to watch, from a safe distance.

[Socialdemokraterne]

And that, my friends, is why it is impossible to engage liberals in intelligent debate. One asks them a valid question, and they evade it by going off into a completely different direction. If one keeps pressing it, eventually they will claim that the question is inadequate.

Hopefully I've changed your mind about this bit.