Sex!

[JuNii]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

[Galloism]

Cannot negate the fact that somehow, Treznor is the only I know, (although not personally), to be able to mix the "dirty old man", the "dandy gentleman", and the "smooth operator" stereotypes perfectly, with coherency. And that's something.

Admirable, I know.
He's dirty and a gentleman, all wrapped up into one.

Wish I could do that, but I can never get the "smooth operator" down.

I'll have to stick with the poor innocent southern boy.

[Insertdecentnamehere]

And yet, you watch porn?

I thought he was strictly "hentai only"?

[Kobrania]

I don't think anyone can argue against the statement that humans are obsessed with sex. We're obsessed with having it, fantasizing about it or worrying about who is doing what to whom. It permeates our conversations, our politics, our literature and especially our advertising. So, as I'm sure has been done so many times before, let's get NSG's take on it: where do you stand on sex?

I am an unabashed hedonist. I see no point in repressing sex for religion or morality's sake, but I recognize the need for caution in sex regarding hygenic and emotional pitfalls. I don't see the point in telling two, three or fifty consenting adults who they can or can't have sex with, or how they can engage in it. I think it's a physical, emotional and mental union that can be as frivolous as a cheap thrill and as meaningful as a lasting relationship. I don't think sex can be restricted to any one thing, but can encompass whatever meaning we choose to assign to it.

******* NOTICE *******
I am male. I like fermales. So all you fags keep your buttplugs to yourself !!

Fag or faggot is an item which is burnt, please don't call me that.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And yet, you watch porn?

I thought he was strictly "hentai only"?

Tentacles...

Now now, let us not derail this thread with tantalizing and disturbing thoughts of tentacles and nubile, 15 year old anime babes.

[Jello Biafra]

******* NOTICE *******
I am male. I like fermales. So all you fags keep your buttplugs to yourself !!

That's fine. Women are capable of using buttplugs too.

[Aelosia]

I think Treznor is Lord Henry Wotton, and that thought is scary.

[Aelosia]

Cannot negate the fact that somehow, Treznor is the only I know, (although not personally), to be able to mix the "dirty old man", the "dandy gentleman", and the "smooth operator" stereotypes perfectly, with coherency. And that's something.

Admirable, I know.
He's dirty and a gentleman, all wrapped up into one.

Wish I could do that, but I can never get the "smooth operator" down.

I'll have to stick with the poor innocent southern boy.

Your charm has worked so far, right? Then don't blew it by changing it.

[Treznor]

I voted for Rigorous Boundaries.


Sex only after Marriage imo.

What's the practicality of that, in your opinion? If you can explain without referring to religious dogma more the better, since I don't view "god told me so" as a practical reason.

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

Bad gifts are the worst ones of all. You don't want them, but you feel obligated to accept them or risk making the other person feel bad.

I find it better to comparison shop beforehand and pick out the gift I want so I know I'll be happy with it.

What if you marry someone and find out you're completely dissatisfied or incompatible with them sexually?

Do you base your marriage only on Sex? So what happens when Impotence sets in? do you get a divorce? buy a lifetime supply of little blue pills?

A relationship (marriage or otherwise) can't be based entirely on sex. On the other hand, few marriages can survive harmoniously without good sex. Sex and money problems are the two biggest reasons cited for divorce in the modern western world.

What if you wish you'd had more experience before, to keep things smooth and interesting with the one you want to be with, concievably, forever?

if you are a virgin, then wouldn't sex be new, interesting, and an adventure with that person? imagine, experiencing new things with someone you love.

Whenever I'm with a new partner, sex is new, interesting and an adventure with that person. One of the things I enjoy about sex with new people is learning what turns them on. Sometimes I learn new things about myself as well.

the choice to with hold oneself until marriage doesn't have to be a religious one. and this is *MY* choice. if I find that significant other used to be a prostitute or porn star (hey... it's possible...) I certainly won't hold her to my standards or choices when it comes to sex. she made hers and if I love her, then I love her.

That is the best answer by far in this post. Waiting for marriage, religious reasons, etc and so forth are all fine and good, but it should always be a matter of choice and not something you're pressured to do one way or another. People who choose to have sex need to have good communication before, during and after, or it all falls apart no matter what your foundation. It helps reduce the risk for nasty surprises, both physical and emotional.

[Galloism]

Your charm has worked so far, right? Then don't blew it by changing it.

I have charm?

[Muravyets]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

[Galloism]

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

[Ashmoria]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

yeah i had that discussion with my (thankfully adult) son. he was bemused by the notion.

so masturbation is gay. who knew?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

yeah i had that discussion with my (thankfully adult) son. he was bemused by the notion.

so masturbation is gay. who knew?

So now everything is gay?
Then I'm a lesbian because I do like to touch myself.

Sheesh.

[Treznor]

I think Treznor is Lord Henry Wotton, and that thought is scary.

Okay, I'm blushing now. This thread wasn't intended to be all about me.

But I had to look up Lord Henry Wotton and I regret I don't get the reference. Plus, I'd be dead for over four hundred years which I find to be a distinct turn-off.

[JuNii]

I voted for Rigorous Boundaries.


Sex only after Marriage imo.

What's the practicality of that, in your opinion? If you can explain without referring to religious dogma more the better, since I don't view "god told me so" as a practical reason.

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

Bad gifts are the worst ones of all. You don't want them, but you feel obligated to accept them or risk making the other person feel bad.

I find it better to comparison shop beforehand and pick out the gift I want so I know I'll be happy with it.

ah, but for the "virgin" stand point. how can it be a bad gift when you have someone who you can 'teach' all the things that will satisfy you. without the other person drawing up on experience that could be all wrong for you?

What if you marry someone and find out you're completely dissatisfied or incompatible with them sexually?

Do you base your marriage only on Sex? So what happens when Impotence sets in? do you get a divorce? buy a lifetime supply of little blue pills?

A relationship (marriage or otherwise) can't be based entirely on sex. On the other hand, few marriages can survive harmoniously without good sex. Sex and money problems are the two biggest reasons cited for divorce in the modern western world.

you quoted two sources for divorce. yet the 'Sex' is it because of bad sex or is it because of one person cheating on the other, which, involves sex?

the choice to with hold oneself until marriage doesn't have to be a religious one. and this is *MY* choice. if I find that significant other used to be a prostitute or porn star (hey... it's possible...) I certainly won't hold her to my standards or choices when it comes to sex. she made hers and if I love her, then I love her.

That is the best answer by far in this post. Waiting for marriage, religious reasons, etc and so forth are all fine and good, but it should always be a matter of choice and not something you're pressured to do one way or another. People who choose to have sex need to have good communication before, during and after, or it all falls apart no matter what your foundation. It helps reduce the risk for nasty surprises, both physical and emotional.

The choice to wait has always been MY Choice. The problem is, that people assume that if one is Abstaining, they are doing so BECAUSE of Religious reasons. At the same time. others view promiscuity as being 'loose' and 'Slutty'.

[JuNii]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

And that is why... I don't talk about porn with my Parents.

[Aelosia]

I think Treznor is Lord Henry Wotton, and that thought is scary.

Okay, I'm blushing now. This thread wasn't intended to be all about me.

But I had to look up Lord Henry Wotton and I regret I don't get the reference. Plus, I'd be dead for over four hundred years which I find to be a distinct turn-off.

The fictional character, my dear. On "The picture of Dorian Gray".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray

I would say that finally for once my erudition beaten yours, but sadly it is not the case because I didn't know about the REAL character named Lord Henry Wotton.

And yes, what murayvets said made my head explode too, but left a tasty feeling of warm satisfaction after the explosion.

[JuNii]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

yeah i had that discussion with my (thankfully adult) son. he was bemused by the notion.

so masturbation is gay. who knew?

So now everything is gay?
Then I'm a lesbian because I do like to touch myself.

Sheesh.

So Nanatsu... Other than the fact that you have an SO... is there anything about you that I possibly could NOT like?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

for me, not answering for RLC, it's because I view sex as an intimate act. a giving of oneself to another. when I find that special someone, I certainly don't want to give a used gift.

And yet, you watch porn?

is porn sex?

Last night, I was talking with my mom about that amusing "all porn is gay porn" episode at the "values voters" Republican summit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/19/cob ... rnography/

And I couldn't quite figure out how he thought Playboy was gay porn. My mom, who understands everything, explained (and I quote), "Well, [Muravyets dear], when a guy jacks off, that's man on man sex. Obviously. Think about it."

So, yeah, according to Michael Schwartz, who I guess must know, porn is sex.

Gay, gay sex. Because only gay guys like vagina. Apparently.

yeah i had that discussion with my (thankfully adult) son. he was bemused by the notion.

so masturbation is gay. who knew?

So now everything is gay?
Then I'm a lesbian because I do like to touch myself.

Sheesh.

So Nanatsu... Other than the fact that you have an SO... is there anything about you that I possibly could NOT like?

There is. *nod*
I snore when I have a cold.

[Treznor]

Bad gifts are the worst ones of all. You don't want them, but you feel obligated to accept them or risk making the other person feel bad.

I find it better to comparison shop beforehand and pick out the gift I want so I know I'll be happy with it.

ah, but for the "virgin" stand point. how can it be a bad gift when you have someone who you can 'teach' all the things that will satisfy you. without the other person drawing up on experience that could be all wrong for you?

That implies that the person you've given the gift of your virginity to is not also a virgin, which is held as the ideal: two virgins fumbling with each other, not having a clue what to do with themselves or each other. If they're not properly repressed about sex as this ideal generally requires, then they won't know what questions to ask, let alone that they should be asking them.

A relationship (marriage or otherwise) can't be based entirely on sex. On the other hand, few marriages can survive harmoniously without good sex. Sex and money problems are the two biggest reasons cited for divorce in the modern western world.

you quoted two sources for divorce. yet the 'Sex' is it because of bad sex or is it because of one person cheating on the other, which, involves sex?

Isn't one of the biggest reasons for infidelity the fact that you either aren't getting any at home, or what you are getting isn't what you want? Either way: sex.

the choice to with hold oneself until marriage doesn't have to be a religious one. and this is *MY* choice. if I find that significant other used to be a prostitute or porn star (hey... it's possible...) I certainly won't hold her to my standards or choices when it comes to sex. she made hers and if I love her, then I love her.

That is the best answer by far in this post. Waiting for marriage, religious reasons, etc and so forth are all fine and good, but it should always be a matter of choice and not something you're pressured to do one way or another. People who choose to have sex need to have good communication before, during and after, or it all falls apart no matter what your foundation. It helps reduce the risk for nasty surprises, both physical and emotional.

The choice to wait has always been MY Choice. The problem is, that people assume that if one is Abstaining, they are doing so BECAUSE of Religious reasons. At the same time. others view promiscuity as being 'loose' and 'Slutty'.

Ah, stereotypes. Where would we be without them?

[Jello Biafra]

Isn't one of the biggest reasons for infidelity the fact that you either aren't getting any at home, or what you are getting isn't what you want? Either way: sex.

My understanding is that it usually is a reflection on the relationship itself and not especially the sexual aspect of the relationship.
For instance, if someone in a relationship becomes emotionally distant, their partner might seek that emotional connection in somebody else. Emotional connections for some people are enhanced by sex.

[JuNii]

Bad gifts are the worst ones of all. You don't want them, but you feel obligated to accept them or risk making the other person feel bad.

I find it better to comparison shop beforehand and pick out the gift I want so I know I'll be happy with it.

ah, but for the "virgin" stand point. how can it be a bad gift when you have someone who you can 'teach' all the things that will satisfy you. without the other person drawing up on experience that could be all wrong for you?

That implies that the person you've given the gift of your virginity to is not also a virgin, which is held as the ideal: two virgins fumbling with each other, not having a clue what to do with themselves or each other. If they're not properly repressed about sex as this ideal generally requires, then they won't know what questions to ask, let alone that they should be asking them.

actually it's not. after all, if one is 'experienced' then one would know what they like and can then 'mold' the other into their ideal lover.

If both are 'virgins' then how can either of them be 'dissatisfied with sex' to the point of ending the marriage... because they won't have anything to compare it with.

A relationship (marriage or otherwise) can't be based entirely on sex. On the other hand, few marriages can survive harmoniously without good sex. Sex and money problems are the two biggest reasons cited for divorce in the modern western world.

you quoted two sources for divorce. yet the 'Sex' is it because of bad sex or is it because of one person cheating on the other, which, involves sex?

Isn't one of the biggest reasons for infidelity the fact that you either aren't getting any at home, or what you are getting isn't what you want? Either way: sex.

which does not point to one being a 'virgin' as being the problem. it could very well be two 'sexually experienced' people who just 'grew tired' of each other.

Ah, stereotypes. Where would we be without them?

definately a better place? *nods*

[Sidebody]

******* NOTICE *******
I am male. I like fermales. So all you fags keep your buttplugs to yourself !!

That's fine. Women are capable of using buttplugs too.

The best ones do

[Treznor]

I think Treznor is Lord Henry Wotton, and that thought is scary.

Okay, I'm blushing now. This thread wasn't intended to be all about me.

But I had to look up Lord Henry Wotton and I regret I don't get the reference. Plus, I'd be dead for over four hundred years which I find to be a distinct turn-off.

The fictional character, my dear. On "The picture of Dorian Gray".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray

I would say that finally for once my erudition beaten yours, but sadly it is not the case because I didn't know about the REAL character named Lord Henry Wotton.

Oh, that Lord Henry Wotton. That's what I get for not re-reading the classics. I'd totally forgotten the names of the characters.

Hmm...I can deal with that comparison. Flattered, even. Yes, that will do very nicely.

And yes, what murayvets said made my head explode too, but left a tasty feeling of warm satisfaction after the explosion.

...I intended this thread to be a discussion about our attitudes toward sex, not temptation to engage in more of it.