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Do you think Obama is the Anti Christ?

Yes!!! THE SIGNS ARE CLEAR! THE END IS NEAR!!!
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12%
No your freakin' crazy wackado!
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45%
No, but that is CREEPY
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HAIL OUR DARK LORD OBAMA!! HAIL SATAN!!
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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:32 pm

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Also read as " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from the heights of heaven"
Additionally in Isaiah and elsewhere when referring to the Devil or Lucifer they note him falling from "the heights" or high place.

Of course Jesus being a Jew, spoke Hebrew.
Now the Hebrew word for Lightening? (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1300)
baraq

And the Hebrew word for heights or high place (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1116)
bamah or Bam-Maw'

Now in Hebrew poetry, the word 'Waw' is used as a conjunction to join concept together, which most scholars would use a "U" or "O"

So when translating as such, the phase "lightning fall from heaven"
Heavens being a high place, you get;

Baraq "O" Bam-Maw
Baraq "U" Bam-Maw

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as Baraq "O" Bam-Maw

Just a little creepy right? ;)


Strong's Hebrew Dictionary can be found here -
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/d ... Hebrew.pdf
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Postby AETEN II » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:37 pm

Cool. Satan has better interior decorating anyway.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:40 pm

"Barack" is a Hebrew name, by the way. It means, "Blessed".
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:40 pm

1000 Cats wrote:"Barack" is a Hebrew name, by the way. It means, "Blessed".


Blessed funny topic. :o
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Postby Arbites » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:42 pm

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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:42 pm

True Barack means "blessed" but Baraq means lightening;

1300 baraq baw-rawk'
from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a
flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
see SH1299

SO STOP SPLITTING HAIRS
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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:44 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Also read as " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from the heights of heaven"
Additionally in Isaiah and elsewhere when referring to the Devil or Lucifer they note him falling from "the heights" or high place.

Of course Jesus being a Jew, spoke Hebrew.
Now the Hebrew word for Lightening? (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1300)
baraq

And the Hebrew word for heights or high place (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1116)
bamah or Bam-Maw'


Now in Hebrew poetry, the word 'Waw' is used as a conjunction to join concept together, which most scholars would use a "U" or "O"

So when translating as such, the phase "lightning fall from heaven"
Heavens being a high place, you get;

Baraq "O" Bam-Maw
Baraq "U" Bam-Maw

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as Baraq "O" Bam-Maw

Just a little creepy right? ;)


Strong's Hebrew Dictionary can be found here -
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/d ... Hebrew.pdf

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A Bahmah is an altar that sacrifices are brought upon outside of the temple.

I mean good god man! Pick up an artscroll!

Abraham made sacrifices upon Bahmas (or Bahmim) because there was no temple.

When the Tabernacle was in Gilgal sacrifices upon a Bahmah were permitted.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:True Barack means "blessed" but Baraq means lightening;

1300 baraq baw-rawk'
from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a
flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
see SH1299

SO STOP SPLITTING HAIRS

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Postby Cameroi » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:47 pm

have we (u.s.) ever had a president SOMEone hasn't accused of being this? (or leader of any country for that matter?)
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:47 pm

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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:52 pm

So in totality the verse makes no sense..... except of course talking about Satan excepting a sacrifice from a Bamhah (Illegal Altar).
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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:52 pm

Menassa wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Also read as " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from the heights of heaven"
Additionally in Isaiah and elsewhere when referring to the Devil or Lucifer they note him falling from "the heights" or high place.

Of course Jesus being a Jew, spoke Hebrew.
Now the Hebrew word for Lightening? (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1300)
baraq

And the Hebrew word for heights or high place (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1116)
bamah or Bam-Maw'


Now in Hebrew poetry, the word 'Waw' is used as a conjunction to join concept together, which most scholars would use a "U" or "O"

So when translating as such, the phase "lightning fall from heaven"
Heavens being a high place, you get;

Baraq "O" Bam-Maw
Baraq "U" Bam-Maw

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as Baraq "O" Bam-Maw

Just a little creepy right? ;)


Strong's Hebrew Dictionary can be found here -
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/d ... Hebrew.pdf

FALSE
A Bahmah is an altar that sacrifices are brought upon outside of the temple.

I mean good god man! Pick up an artscroll!

Abraham made sacrifices upon Bahmas (or Bahmim) because there was no temple.

When the Tabernacle was in Gilgal sacrifices upon a Bahmah were permitted.


Not false, it's Bamah or bam-maw NOT BAHMAS or Bahmah

You got the wrong word SILLY GOOSE, not talking about the alter YO

1116 bamah bam-maw'
from an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation:--height, high place, wave.
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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:54 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:
Menassa wrote:FALSE
A Bahmah is an altar that sacrifices are brought upon outside of the temple.

I mean good god man! Pick up an artscroll!

Abraham made sacrifices upon Bahmas (or Bahmim) because there was no temple.

When the Tabernacle was in Gilgal sacrifices upon a Bahmah were permitted.


Not false, it's Bamah or bam-maw NOT BAHMAS or Bahmah

1116 bamah bam-maw'
from an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation:--height, high place, wave.

False..... Strong is wrong.....

The Torah Is written in Ancient Hebrew (Lashon HaKodesh) The holy Language,
Being a Talmudic Scholar I believe I can read my own book thank yo very much.

In the Bible the word Bahmah (or Bahmim) is mistranslated as "A high place" or "Their high places"
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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm

Menassa wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:
Not false, it's Bamah or bam-maw NOT BAHMAS or Bahmah

1116 bamah bam-maw'
from an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation:--height, high place, wave.

False..... Strong is wrong.....

The Torah Is written in Ancient Hebrew (Lashon HaKodesh) The holy Language,
Being a Talmudic Scholar I believe I can read my own book thank yo very much.


Your so WRONG

Go google it you'll see look here -

EVEN wikipedia SAYS SO!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_place
High Place, in the English version of the Old Testament, the literal translation of the Hebrew במה (bamah, plural במות bamot).

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/High_place (A High Place, (Hebrew bamot or bamah))

http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm (bamah: a high place)





http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm
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Postby Norstal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:59 pm

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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:00 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:
Menassa wrote:False..... Strong is wrong.....

The Torah Is written in Ancient Hebrew (Lashon HaKodesh) The holy Language,
Being a Talmudic Scholar I believe I can read my own book thank yo very much.


Your so WRONG

Go google it you'll see look here -

EVEN wikipedia SAYS SO!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_place
High Place, in the English version of the Old Testament, the literal translation of the Hebrew במה (bamah, plural במות bamot).

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/High_place (A High Place, (Hebrew bamot or bamah))

http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm (bamah: a high place)





http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm

Right, That's Hebrew

The Torah.... was written in Lashon HaKodesh..... A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

In Lashon HaKodsh Bamah means Altar.......
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Postby Norstal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:02 pm

Cameroi wrote:have we (u.s.) ever had a president SOMEone hasn't accused of being this? (or leader of any country for that matter?)

You mean a leader that haven't been accused as anti-christ? The Pope of Vatican City, I guess.
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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:03 pm

Menassa wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:
Your so WRONG

Go google it you'll see look here -

EVEN wikipedia SAYS SO!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_place
High Place, in the English version of the Old Testament, the literal translation of the Hebrew במה (bamah, plural במות bamot).

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/High_place (A High Place, (Hebrew bamot or bamah))

http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm (bamah: a high place)





http://concordances.org/hebrew/1116.htm

Right, That's Hebrew

The Torah.... was written in Lashon HaKodesh..... A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

In Lashon HaKodsh Bamah means Altar.......



Right well when did I say ANYTHING about Lashon Hakodah or the Torah??? NEVER so stop getting off topic.

Talkin' about HEBREW here...

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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:06 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:
Menassa wrote:Right, That's Hebrew

The Torah.... was written in Lashon HaKodesh..... A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

In Lashon HaKodsh Bamah means Altar.......



Right well when did I say ANYTHING about Lashon Hakodah or the Torah??? NEVER so stop getting off topic.

Talkin' about HEBREW here...

I accept your apology.

HEBREW.'

Was invented by the state of Israel (a lot of it taken from Lashon HaKodesh)

Both the new and old Testament were written in Lashon HaKodesh Because that's all the intended audience back then spoke.

Bamah means Altar (ussually a false or inappropriate one)

It can be Mistranslated as "High Place" because they were usually built upon hills.

I will be checking my mailbox for your Written Letter of Apology.
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Postby Holy Trek » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:06 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:True Barack means "blessed" but Baraq means lightening;

1300 baraq baw-rawk'
from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a
flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
see SH1299

SO STOP SPLITTING HAIRS


Here's another idea...REMEMBER THAT OBAMA'S FIRST NAME IS NOT SPELT 'BARAQ' BUT 'BARACK'
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Postby Risottia » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:07 pm

STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Also read as " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from the heights of heaven"
Additionally in Isaiah and elsewhere when referring to the Devil or Lucifer they note him falling from "the heights" or high place.

Of course Jesus being a Jew, spoke Hebrew.
Now the Hebrew word for Lightening? (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1300)
baraq

And the Hebrew word for heights or high place (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1116)
bamah or Bam-Maw'


I wonder what Hebrew has to do with the Gospel of Luke - which was written in Koinè Greek.
AND Jesus (if he existed) spoke Aramaic.


Just a little creepy right? ;)

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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:07 pm

Holy Trek wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:True Barack means "blessed" but Baraq means lightening;

1300 baraq baw-rawk'
from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a
flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
see SH1299

SO STOP SPLITTING HAIRS


Here's another idea...REMEMBER THAT OBAMA'S FIRST NAME IS NOT SPELT 'BARAQ' BUT 'BARACK'

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Postby Menassa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:11 pm

Risottia wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Also read as " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from the heights of heaven"
Additionally in Isaiah and elsewhere when referring to the Devil or Lucifer they note him falling from "the heights" or high place.

Of course Jesus being a Jew, spoke Hebrew.
Now the Hebrew word for Lightening? (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1300)
baraq

And the Hebrew word for heights or high place (In Strong's Dictionary it's listed as word 1116)
bamah or Bam-Maw'


I wonder what Hebrew has to do with the Gospel of Luke - which was written in Koinè Greek.
AND Jesus (if he existed) spoke Aramaic.


Just a little creepy right? ;)

Why?

It may not have been solely Aramaic.... writings are found retelling of him speaking in Aramaic but that does not mean it was all he spoke.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Risottia » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:13 pm

Menassa wrote:It may not have been solely Aramaic.... writings are found retelling of him speaking in Aramaic but that does not mean it was all he spoke.

Very likely he also knew Hebrew (for praying) and Koinè Greek at least. Maybe even some Latin, enough to write "Romanos eunt domum".
But if he wanted to preach to the general public of Iudaea, he had to speak Aramaic.
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Postby STALKER of B E E K E R » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:13 pm

Holy Trek wrote:
STALKER of B E E K E R wrote:True Barack means "blessed" but Baraq means lightening;

1300 baraq baw-rawk'
from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a
flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
see SH1299

SO STOP SPLITTING HAIRS


Here's another idea...REMEMBER THAT OBAMA'S FIRST NAME IS NOT SPELT 'BARAQ' BUT 'BARACK'


YOUR just SPLITTING hairs mang, it's PRONOUNCED basically the same, which is the point, don't derail me will your jibber jabber.

Menassa, I don't care that in some other language it means something else, BIG WHOOP. So what if it means Alter or Hill top in Lashon HaKodesh, it still means High Place in Hebrew!! SO go TROLL someone else's thread.
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