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Postby Foguk » Thu May 17, 2012 11:14 pm

Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 pm

Foguk wrote:Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?

Christians based off of Christ. Why dont Atheists call themselves Darwinists?
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Postby Ende » Thu May 17, 2012 11:19 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Indeed. So what does everyone think of the Bible? I think it is an ok book, has a bit of less than savory stuff in it though.


Shitty and boring mythology.

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Postby Scholencia » Thu May 17, 2012 11:19 pm

Foguk wrote:Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?

Yahwe is the Jewish name, Jesuites was a christian order.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu May 17, 2012 11:20 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Foguk wrote:Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?

Yahwe is the Jewish name, Jesuites was a christian order.

Yahweh actually.
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Thu May 17, 2012 11:21 pm

Foguk wrote:Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?

While we believe in Yahweh, another religion that has different views also claims to follow Him and thus all would be grouped together despite great differences. Jesuits are Catholic priest in/a part of(don't know the proper descriptions of how they are a part of) the Society of Jesus (others being Franciscans or Benedictines). We are Christians because we follow the Messiah, the Savior, and that is the defining nature of Jesus that we look at, that he came to save us.
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Postby Erinkita » Thu May 17, 2012 11:21 pm

Ende wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Shitty and boring mythology.

Meet Mavorpen.

If you can't guess, he doesn't like anything that has anything to do with any sort of religion.

I've gotta tentatively agree with him, though. As mythologies go, the Judeo-Christian mythology pretty dull and unimaginative.
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Postby IshCong » Thu May 17, 2012 11:23 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Foguk wrote:Hey christians, Why don't you call yourselves "Yahwehians" or "Jesusites"? I means, christisans has name in it, why nothe others?

Christians based off of Christ. Why dont Atheists call themselves Darwinists?


Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

EDIT: Also because one can be an Darwinist without being atheist, and an atheist without being a Darwinist.
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Postby Scholencia » Thu May 17, 2012 11:24 pm

IshCong wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Christians based off of Christ. Why dont Atheists call themselves Darwinists?


Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

Why dnt the atheists make their own thread?

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu May 17, 2012 11:24 pm

Erinkita wrote:
Ende wrote:Meet Mavorpen.

If you can't guess, he doesn't like anything that has anything to do with any sort of religion.

I've gotta tentatively agree with him, though. As mythologies go, the Judeo-Christian mythology pretty dull and unimaginative.


I wouldn't call it Judeo-Christian mythology. That implies Judaism and Christianity are joined together in some relationship.

The two are not related to each other. One is what it is, and the other leeches on to it.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu May 17, 2012 11:25 pm

IshCong wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Christians based off of Christ. Why dont Atheists call themselves Darwinists?


Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

Well Yahweh didnt found or create Christianity. The disciples of Jesus Christ did.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Thu May 17, 2012 11:25 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Erinkita wrote:I've gotta tentatively agree with him, though. As mythologies go, the Judeo-Christian mythology pretty dull and unimaginative.


I wouldn't call it Judeo-Christian mythology. That implies Judaism and Christianity are joined together in some relationship.

The two are not related to each other. One is what it is, and the other leeches on to it.

The two ARE related.
Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism.
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An Slanaitheoir
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Thu May 17, 2012 11:26 pm

Scholencia wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

Why dnt the atheists make their own thread?

I assume it is fun to antagonize and to argue with us.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu May 17, 2012 11:26 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Interesting how?

Interesting to read, and if you read the Bible its fun to point out easter eggs and grammer/spelling mistakes.


I don't have enough time to do that. :lol:
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu May 17, 2012 11:26 pm

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Ok they might be mythology but the Quran is an interesting book, so is the Bible, and the Torah to, their all interesting.

Not if you have a general hatred for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

Also Mavorpen, correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you Buddhist?


Yep.
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Postby Foguk » Thu May 17, 2012 11:26 pm

Scholencia wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

Why dnt the atheists make their own thread?


Hey, I was just asking. Christ is a name, jesus is a name, Yahweh is name. Therye all names.
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
I wouldn't call it Judeo-Christian mythology. That implies Judaism and Christianity are joined together in some relationship.

The two are not related to each other. One is what it is, and the other leeches on to it.

The two ARE related.
Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism.


Christianity is not an offshoot of Judaism. That implies it is a branch of Judaism, which it is not. It disregards everything in part about being Jewish, and Judaism altogether.

Christianity and Judaism are not related religious or philosophically, or even culturally. They are only related historically, and that is because they need justification for their false messiah.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 pm

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Interesting how?

At the very least, if it turns out to be false, how people could believe that it doesn't conflict and other "wild" claims.


That's not really so much as interesting because of it's religious claims, it's interesting from a philosophical and scientific standpoint.
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Postby IshCong » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Because Darwin didn't create atheism. Or found it. Or really form atheist ideology, since there is no unified atheist ideology other than the rejection of belief in a deity.

Well Yahweh didnt found or create Christianity. The disciples of Jesus Christ did.


*shrugs*
Yahweh was pulling Jesus' strings though, so to speak. Anyway, I think he just missed the point that Jesus was called the Christ, as he threw in "Jesusites".
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Postby Foguk » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Interesting how?

Interesting to read, and if you read the Bible its fun to point out easter eggs and grammer/spelling mistakes.


Wait, there are easter eggs? Where! Tell me one!
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Thu May 17, 2012 11:28 pm

Foguk wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Why dnt the atheists make their own thread?


Hey, I was just asking. Christ is a name, jesus is a name, Yahweh is name. Therye all names.

Christ is a description, Jesus is a name, Yahweh is THE name above all names (and probably on of the simplest)
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu May 17, 2012 11:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Not if you have a general hatred for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

Also Mavorpen, correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you Buddhist?


Yep.


I assume the kind of Buddhist that doesn't believe in G-d?
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu May 17, 2012 11:28 pm

Ende wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Shitty and boring mythology.

Meet Mavorpen.

If you can't guess, he doesn't like anything that has anything to do with any sort of religion.


Meet Ende, who feels the need to whine about things I've never said.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Ende » Thu May 17, 2012 11:29 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ende wrote:Meet Mavorpen.

If you can't guess, he doesn't like anything that has anything to do with any sort of religion.


Meet Ende, who feels the need to whine about things I've never said.

Sheesh.

Jokes never work on the internet.

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu May 17, 2012 11:29 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Yep.


I assume the kind of Buddhist that doesn't believe in G-d?


What's with the dash? :blink:

But I guess? Although that's not really a "kind" of Buddhist.
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