Christian disscussion thread

[Distruzio]

Well, if we are going by Catholic theology, he may be in heaven, If he had all mortal sins forgiven and did reparations for the forgiven mortal and venial sins (I don't have any examples). Although as he was a politician, I doubt he did make reparations.

You know, I've always been curious - where does Catholicism get the basis for penance? Where in the Bible does it say that we need to make reparations for our sins?

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[Distruzio]

Zen Buddhist here, and with a question nonetheless.
My Christian friend and I were debating the other day, and I pointed out some of the socially backwards laws in the Old Testament, and she said "The Covenant changed when Jesus came, so we don't have to follow those laws anymore." And went on about different kinds of laws in the Bible. My other Christian friends, however, believe we should follow all of the Bible to the letter.
Can you elaborate on all this? What does she mean we don't have to follow those laws anymore? I thought you couldn't just pick and choose what to follow. I'm just curious.

Another quick question: Why don't many Christians accept the "lost books of the Bible", like the Gospel of Judas? Do they have any more or less relevance just because the Church deemed that they shouldn't be in the Bible?

Read this. It isn't long.

[Coppingham]

God loves you all!

[Stovokor]

Can you draw a parallel today?

I think we're talking about the same thing. lol

[Athartha]

Born a Catholic, I was always attracted to the Clergy. In my teen years, those pesky hormones got to me and I realized I kind of like girls, a lot... And that I wanted to, maybe some day, have a child and a wife. I asked out this girl I had a crush on for a while, and we dated for 4 years. We'd even talked about getting married. However, in my senior year of high school I got in a car accident. This crash shook me up badly, and while I was in the hospital all I could think about was "am I making the right choices in my life." Long story short, I decided to go ahead and go to seminary school, where I have been for 3 years now (nearly 4)

I know this probably won't help you any, but reading stuff like that always make me feel so bad for catholic clergy, I can't imagine a dedicated priest wouldn't make anything but a great father and husband.

My desire for children has all but ended. I have realized, that as a priest I will be a spiritual father to many, not just a few of my physical children. I will be married to my church, which I love as much as I have ever loved a person.

You know, Protestant denominations allow you to marry

Yes, I do know this. However, I do not agree with the Protestant Churches, I do not think they are God's one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

Good for you! I considered the priesthood for a year or so but my Priest reminded me of my vanity. I couldn't deny that he had a point there. One doesn't choose the priesthood. One is chosen for it.

I'm far to much of a prick to be a priest. If civilian life doesn't work out for me, a monastery would be the perfect place to recuse myself.

If i'm not mistaken you are an Orthodox Christian? My close friend recently started attending St. Sergius Orthodox Theological Institute in Paris. I considered Monasticism once (for an odd reason) but decided the priesthood was better suited to myself, as I wanted to help people through my position.

[Menassa]

While I was on my cruise I bought a sterling sliver cross. Im wearing it right now.

I bought a miniature rack and I'm wearing that now........ we're one in the same!

[Serrland]

Yes, I do know this. However, I do not agree with the Protestant Churches, I do not think they are God's one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

Various different Catholic Churches allow for priests to be married with children, too. Just not you Latinate folks (usually).

[An Slanaitheoir]

Relative in terms of believing in a set of ideals determined by our environment. I live in a "Christian" environment therefore I will be a Christian. And without truly understanding the ideals of other religions my religion is right. I think and its only my personal opinion that this is the reason behind the Mongol approach to religion. At the risk of displaying a Mongol bias, they believed in the spiritual self to attain a better understanding of a God being so to speak. Religions of Abraham to me seem preoccupied with worrying about everyone else rather than achieving a state of mind and body that compliments their beliefs. Let me add at this point that when the Mongols massacred men women and children they viewed it as a release from the constraints of the physical self. The Templars or Jihadists for example on the other hand view it as sending a heathen to eternal damnation.

So now I have talked myself into another angle of my question "Is religion relative?" I think religion is relative to our environment but according to the laws of relativity can religion survive without paganism or a different doctrine, a set of beliefs from the other side of world perhaps?
Or is it simply that my version of good is better than you're version of good?

Religion is not relative. Religion is man seeking God, and at the end of time only one Religion/Philosophy about God can be true. That is why Christianity and Norse paganism clashed, why Judaism and Canaanite Paganism clashed, why Islam and Zoroastrianism clash, Only one can be true in the end of time. The thought of Relative Truth, the claim that there is no absolute truth, contradicts itself. Either Atheist are right, Catholics are, Muslims are, but in the end one one will stand the test of Truth.

Then Religion is simply a tool used for manipulating masses to achieve non-religious goals. The Devil is truly Gods best Angel. I suspect the he truly understands the nature of man better than Jesus does

And I suspect you are wrong. I don't know how the created could know more about the other created creatures better than the creator.

While I was on my cruise I bought a sterling sliver cross. Im wearing it right now.

On my last cruise this one guy that I hung out with bought a Rasta-colored rosary, but he was not religious. I tried to get a rosary (especially since we were in Mexico), but everything was closed.

[Birkinghamia]

You know, Protestant denominations allow you to marry

Yes, I do know this. However, I do not agree with the Protestant Churches, I do not think they are God's one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

They're based solely on the Bible, though, which I believe is the sole source of Christian truth.

Doesn't the Catholic Church have rituals/ceremonies that aren't noted in the Bible (ex. Confirmation)?

[An Slanaitheoir]

Yes, I do know this. However, I do not agree with the Protestant Churches, I do not think they are God's one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

They're based solely on the Bible, though, which I believe is the sole source of Christian truth.

Doesn't the Catholic Church have rituals/ceremonies that aren't noted in the Bible (ex. Confirmation)?

Are all of Jesus' miracles in the Bible?

[Menassa]

They're based solely on the Bible, though, which I believe is the sole source of Christian truth.

Doesn't the Catholic Church have rituals/ceremonies that aren't noted in the Bible (ex. Confirmation)?

Are all of Jesus' miracles in the Bible?

Wait... which bible?

[An Slanaitheoir]

Are all of Jesus' miracles in the Bible?

Wait... which bible?

The one that he says is the source of Christian truth.

[Menassa]

Wait... which bible?

The one that he says is the source of Christian truth.

Sooooo that's teh new Testament right?

[The Realm of God]

The one that he says is the source of Christian truth.

Sooooo that's teh new Testament right?

Yes.

[An Slanaitheoir]

The one that he says is the source of Christian truth.

Sooooo that's teh new Testament right?

The New testament is a bible? I thought it was the latter half.

[The Realm of God]

Sooooo that's teh new Testament right?

The New testament is a bible? I thought it was the latter half.

The Old Testement is not really important to the Christian as Jesus abolished the law.

[Liriena]

The New testament is a bible? I thought it was the latter half.

The Old Testement is not really important to the Christian as Jesus abolished the law.

Then...If a guy quotes Leviticus, I should tell him to GTFO?

[Birkinghamia]

They're based solely on the Bible, though, which I believe is the sole source of Christian truth.

Doesn't the Catholic Church have rituals/ceremonies that aren't noted in the Bible (ex. Confirmation)?

Are all of Jesus' miracles in the Bible?

Maybe. I don't think anyone living knows the answer to that question, besides God.

[Liriena]

So, I'm a member of:


(...and Catholic, but that's besides the point)

Your thoughts, my friends?

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

So, I'm a member of:
(Image)

(...and Catholic, but that's besides the point)

Your thoughts, my friends?

See you in heaven

--Member of the Christian Right.

[Birkinghamia]

So, I'm a member of:
(Image)

(...and Catholic, but that's besides the point)

Your thoughts, my friends?

What are your beliefs, specifically (regarding liberalism)?

[The Merchant Republics]

I'm a member of the Christian Libertarians.

Wish we had a cool sign.

[Distruzio]

The Old Testement is not really important to the Christian as Jesus abolished the law.

Then...If a guy quotes Leviticus, I should tell him to GTFO?

Yes.

[The Merchant Republics]

Then...If a guy quotes Leviticus, I should tell him to GTFO?

Yes.

I agree that you should.

But in what sense do you mean abolished the laws of the Old Testament? Where is that in scripture?

[Distruzio]

Yes.

I agree that you should.

But in what sense do you mean abolished the laws of the Old Testament? Where is that in scripture?

I'd have used the word fulfilled.