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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:26 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:well then it was the diciples then i guess or the catholics because thats where protestantism comes from right? idk somewhere at sometime with someone :)

...

Do you know anything about Church history?

Depends, I am sure that the Church history that I think is right is different from he Church history that you think is right.
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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:27 am

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Apparently not, if he doesn't know about the Reformation.

*points at IshCong, looking at Catholic guy*

"See, even the atheist knows that!"

*looks back at Isn while keeping finger raised*

"You are an atheist, right?"

ya i just mentioned that just a second ago

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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:27 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Apparently not, if he doesn't know about the Reformation.

*points at IshCong, looking at Catholic guy*

"See, even the atheist knows that!"

*looks back at Isn while keeping finger raised*

"You are an atheist, right?"


Agnostic atheist, yes. Raised Catholic, however, so... hehehehe.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:28 am

BoudreauxLand wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

Do you know anything about Church history?

protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect

Erm...

Pretty sure Luther started the Protestant Reformation....

And he was Catholic...


*waits for logic to come into play*


















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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:28 am

BoudreauxLand wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

Do you know anything about Church history?

protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect

Started with luther's 95 theses and went from there.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:29 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

Do you know anything about Church history?

Depends, I am sure that the Church history that I think is right is different from he Church history that you think is right.

I was referring to the guy that can't capitalize words or punctuate sentences.

I'm pretty sure you're a good Catholic. :)
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:30 am

BoudreauxLand wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

Do you know anything about Church history?

protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect


They came from the Catholic Church only insofar as a bunch of Christians got so upset at the Catholic Church, they turned against it and wound up fighting with the Catholics.
That's rather...disingenuous phrasing there.
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Postby Arborlawn » Fri May 18, 2012 12:30 am

Glad I'm a Jew.

None of this nonsense.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:30 am

IshCong wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:*points at IshCong, looking at Catholic guy*

"See, even the atheist knows that!"

*looks back at Isn while keeping finger raised*

"You are an atheist, right?"


Agnostic atheist, yes. Raised Catholic, however, so... hehehehe.

Don't agnostic and atheist contradict each other?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:31 am

IshCong wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect


They came from the Catholic Church only insofar as a bunch of Christians got so upset at the Catholic Church, they turned against it and wound up fighting with the Catholics.
That's rather...disingenuous phrasing there.

Hey, rough, but maybe he understands it like that.
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:31 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Agnostic atheist, yes. Raised Catholic, however, so... hehehehe.

Don't agnostic and atheist contradict each other?


Nope. What makes you think that they would?
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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:31 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect

Erm...

Pretty sure Luther started the Protestant Reformation....

And he was Catholic...


*waits for logic to come into play*
ya thtas practically what i said -_-

















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Yes, Protestantism came from Catholicism. But indulgences was not the only heresy Luther was concerned with.

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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 am

Arborlawn wrote:Glad I'm a Jew.

None of this nonsense.


Which nonsense do you refer to? The Reformation?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 am

IshCong wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Don't agnostic and atheist contradict each other?


Nope. What makes you think that they would?

I had always though agnostic meant "we can never know if there is a God" and atheist meant "there is no God."
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:33 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Depends, I am sure that the Church history that I think is right is different from he Church history that you think is right.

I was referring to the guy that can't capitalize words or punctuate sentences.

I'm pretty sure you're a good Catholic. :)

Thank for that, but I consider myself to be a bad Catholic.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:34 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I was referring to the guy that can't capitalize words or punctuate sentences.

I'm pretty sure you're a good Catholic. :)

Thank for that, but I consider myself to be a bad Catholic.

I keep being unorthodox... :palm:

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Postby Arborlawn » Fri May 18, 2012 12:34 am

IshCong wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:Glad I'm a Jew.

None of this nonsense.


Which nonsense do you refer to? The Reformation?


The Christian Nonsense
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:34 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Nope. What makes you think that they would?

I had always though agnostic meant "we can never know if there is a God" and atheist meant "there is no God."


Agnostic means you cannot know if there is a god, whereas atheism rejects belief in a god.
I do not know whether god exists or not, for a certainty, though I do find it unlikely, and do not believe god exists. Thus, agnostic atheism.
Gnostic atheism would be stating that there is no god, and you can know and show it.

There are also agnostic theists, and, of course, gnostic theists.

EDIT: Now with a linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:35 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Nope. What makes you think that they would?

I had always though agnostic meant "we can never know if there is a God" and atheist meant "there is no God."

I think its he believes there is no God, but doesn't know for sure.
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I had always though agnostic meant "we can never know if there is a God" and atheist meant "there is no God."

I think its he believes there is no God, but doesn't know for sure.


Rather, I feel the concept of god's existence or non-existence is unknowable.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

IshCong wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I had always though agnostic meant "we can never know if there is a God" and atheist meant "there is no God."


Agnostic means you cannot know if there is a god, whereas atheism rejects belief in a god.
I do not know whether god exists or not, for a certainty, though I do find it unlikely, and do not believe god exists. Thus, agnostic atheism.
Gnostic atheism would be stating that there is no god, and you can know and show it.

There are also agnostic theists, and, of course, gnostic theists.

EDIT: Now with a linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

I suppose that makes sense...

In a way...

So, you're like Dawkins?
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Thank for that, but I consider myself to be a bad Catholic.

I keep being unorthodox... :palm:

I know, there are no good people.

:) There are good people, but the good Catholics are in Heaven. If you consider yourself holy, then you probably are not because of being humble and all.
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

Arborlawn wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Which nonsense do you refer to? The Reformation?


The Christian Nonsense


You like being vague, don't you?
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:38 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Agnostic means you cannot know if there is a god, whereas atheism rejects belief in a god.
I do not know whether god exists or not, for a certainty, though I do find it unlikely, and do not believe god exists. Thus, agnostic atheism.
Gnostic atheism would be stating that there is no god, and you can know and show it.

There are also agnostic theists, and, of course, gnostic theists.

EDIT: Now with a linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

I suppose that makes sense...

In a way...

So, you're like Dawkins?


Dawkins is a bit more...gnostic, last I checked. Least, that was always my take on the man.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:38 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I keep being unorthodox... :palm:

I know, there are no good people.

:) There are good people, but the good Catholics are in Heaven. If you consider yourself holy, then you probably are not because of being humble and all.

Wait...

You're not one of those that believe only Catholics can go to heaven, are you?
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