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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:12 am

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An Slanaitheoir wrote:Ok, you just contradicted yourself. You say that Jesus didn't found Christianity, but that Martin Luther founded Lutheranism. Explain this please.

in a way i guess he founded christanity(jesus) but i guess he figured we would still be considered jews. Catholism was one of the first christian group if you dont count the jews who stayed jewish yet believed in christ. well im confusinf myself so....

Christ didn't "figure" anything, he was God, and knew what they would be called.

Catholicism was, essentially, the first denomination, even though it's doctrine has changed a bit over the years, and that the early Church was not "Catholic."
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:13 am

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An Slanaitheoir wrote:I assume it is fun to antagonize and to argue with us.

Ok, why have you stolen the name from chrstians?

Who has stolen the name?
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Postby Foguk » Fri May 18, 2012 12:14 am

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I assume the kind of Buddhist that doesn't believe in G-d?


What's with the dash? :blink:

But I guess? Although that's not really a "kind" of Buddhist.


Lol, thats what I was wondering. Just call it/he/she God, that what it is.
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Postby Scholencia » Fri May 18, 2012 12:15 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Ok, why have you stolen the name from chrstians?

Who has stolen the name?

"Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and persecuted as atheists. Thus, charges of atheism, meaning the subversion of religion, were often used similarly to charges of heresy and impiety – as a political tool to eliminate enemies."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism#Classical_Greece_and_Rome

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:15 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

I'm not sure that is possible, when you do not believe that Christ was God.

What? I said I belive Christianity was founded by the disciples, Hell did you get that idea?

You said Yahweh was "the Jewish God."

Believing Jesus was the Jewish God (Yahweh/God) is one of the key tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you believe that there are multiple Gods, that God only started saving people with Jesus, or what...?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:16 am

Foguk wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
What's with the dash? :blink:

But I guess? Although that's not really a "kind" of Buddhist.


Lol, thats what I was wondering. Just call it/he/she God, that what it is.

Jews cannot spell out His entire name.

You really didn't know that? :palm:
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:16 am

Scholencia wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Who has stolen the name?

"Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and persecuted as atheists. Thus, charges of atheism, meaning the subversion of religion, were often used similarly to charges of heresy and impiety – as a political tool to eliminate enemies."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism#Classical_Greece_and_Rome

Are you assuming I am atheist? Well at least it is better than what I thought you were claiming. No I am a Catholic.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 18, 2012 12:17 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:What? I said I belive Christianity was founded by the disciples, Hell did you get that idea?

You said Yahweh was "the Jewish God."

Believing Jesus was the Jewish God (Yahweh/God) is one of the key tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you believe that there are multiple Gods, that God only started saving people with Jesus, or what...?

I belive in one God. I belive Jesus was real, although I do have some doubt as to whether the stories of the miracles are true or not, and I belive Jesus was the son of God, with some doubt.
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Postby Scholencia » Fri May 18, 2012 12:17 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Scholencia wrote:"Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and persecuted as atheists. Thus, charges of atheism, meaning the subversion of religion, were often used similarly to charges of heresy and impiety – as a political tool to eliminate enemies."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism#Classical_Greece_and_Rome

Are you assuming I am atheist? Well at least it is better than what I thought you were claiming. No I am a Catholic.

Are you religious?

I though you were atheis...

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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:17 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:in a way i guess he founded christanity(jesus) but i guess he figured we would still be considered jews. Catholism was one of the first christian group if you dont count the jews who stayed jewish yet believed in christ. well im confusinf myself so....

Jesus was not the first Christian, for you cannot follow yourself.

well then it was the diciples then i guess or the catholics because thats where protestantism comes from right? idk somewhere at sometime with someone :)

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:18 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

I'm not sure that is possible, when you do not believe that Christ was God.

Maybe he is new, and has not been corrected on that before. Apparently 70% of one Catholic diocese thought that Jesus had sinned, not everyone knows all the revealed knowledge of God.

Wow. That is amazing.

I must say, the Catholic Church has gone more downhill than the Protestant one. And that's saying something.

I do not believe it is possible to be a Christian and believe Jesus sinned.
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:19 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:What? I said I belive Christianity was founded by the disciples, Hell did you get that idea?

You said Yahweh was "the Jewish God."

Believing Jesus was the Jewish God (Yahweh/God) is one of the key tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you believe that there are multiple Gods, that God only started saving people with Jesus, or what...?

Correction, Jesus is the Jewish god. If he was the Jewish God, then right now he is now.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:19 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You said Yahweh was "the Jewish God."

Believing Jesus was the Jewish God (Yahweh/God) is one of the key tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you believe that there are multiple Gods, that God only started saving people with Jesus, or what...?

I belive in one God. I belive Jesus was real, although I do have some doubt as to whether the stories of the miracles are true or not, and I belive Jesus was the son of God, with some doubt.

The Son of Yahweh, correct? You also believe in the Trinity? One God in three persons?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:20 am

An Slanaitheoir wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You said Yahweh was "the Jewish God."

Believing Jesus was the Jewish God (Yahweh/God) is one of the key tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you believe that there are multiple Gods, that God only started saving people with Jesus, or what...?

Correction, Jesus is the Jewish god. If he was the Jewish God, then right now he is now.

Sorry. Did not mean to use the passive tense.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:21 am

BoudreauxLand wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Jesus was not the first Christian, for you cannot follow yourself.

well then it was the diciples then i guess or the catholics because thats where protestantism comes from right? idk somewhere at sometime with someone :)

...

Do you know anything about Church history?
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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:22 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Maybe he is new, and has not been corrected on that before. Apparently 70% of one Catholic diocese thought that Jesus had sinned, not everyone knows all the revealed knowledge of God.

Wow. That is amazing.

I must say, the Catholic Church has gone more downhill than the Protestant one. And that's saying something.

I do not believe it is possible to be a Christian and believe Jesus sinned.

im catholic i dont belived he sinned and my church doesnt teach such things. its blasphemous to think that

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 18, 2012 12:23 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I belive in one God. I belive Jesus was real, although I do have some doubt as to whether the stories of the miracles are true or not, and I belive Jesus was the son of God, with some doubt.

The Son of Yahweh, correct? You also believe in the Trinity? One God in three persons?

Whatever you want to call God. Yes.
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Postby IshCong » Fri May 18, 2012 12:23 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:well then it was the diciples then i guess or the catholics because thats where protestantism comes from right? idk somewhere at sometime with someone :)

...

Do you know anything about Church history?


Apparently not, if he doesn't know about the Reformation.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:23 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The Son of Yahweh, correct? You also believe in the Trinity? One God in three persons?

Whatever you want to call God. Yes.

You and Mitt Romney need to get together and contradict yourselves sometime.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:24 am

BoudreauxLand wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Wow. That is amazing.

I must say, the Catholic Church has gone more downhill than the Protestant one. And that's saying something.

I do not believe it is possible to be a Christian and believe Jesus sinned.

im catholic i dont belived he sinned and my church doesnt teach such things. its blasphemous to think that

Glad to hear that.
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Postby An Slanaitheoir » Fri May 18, 2012 12:24 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
An Slanaitheoir wrote:Maybe he is new, and has not been corrected on that before. Apparently 70% of one Catholic diocese thought that Jesus had sinned, not everyone knows all the revealed knowledge of God.

Wow. That is amazing.

I must say, the Catholic Church has gone more downhill than the Protestant one. And that's saying something.

I do not believe it is possible to be a Christian and believe Jesus sinned.

The Church is not teaching that, just hasn't been very good at teaching much lately. Most of that percentage probably don't really practice their faith.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 18, 2012 12:24 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Whatever you want to call God. Yes.

You and Mitt Romney need to get together and contradict yourselves sometime.

Oh yeah yeah, cause Jesus was an American yeah, and the golden plates.
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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:24 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:well then it was the diciples then i guess or the catholics because thats where protestantism comes from right? idk somewhere at sometime with someone :)

...

Do you know anything about Church history?

protestants do come from the catholic church kinda they broke away the lutheran who didnt take indulgences the king of england forming a new church ect ect

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 18, 2012 12:25 am

IshCong wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...

Do you know anything about Church history?


Apparently not, if he doesn't know about the Reformation.

*points at IshCong, looking at Catholic guy*

"See, even the atheist knows that!"

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Postby BoudreauxLand » Fri May 18, 2012 12:26 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
BoudreauxLand wrote:im catholic i dont belived he sinned and my church doesnt teach such things. its blasphemous to think that

Glad to hear that.

well im trying not to give us a bad name something that isnt true yet you believe about us from one persons mouth really?

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