Christian disscussion thread

[Menassa]

To which I address the saifuh the end of the post.

I don't know what saifuh is.

The end of the post..... I translated it.

[Neo-Megatopia]

Google is your friend.

Fixed that for you

[Abatael]

I don't know what saifuh is.

Bing is your friend.

It's funny you say that. I looked it up on Bing, and got no results.

[Abatael]

I don't know what saifuh is.

The end of the post..... I translated it.

You didn't make it clear that "the end of the post" is the translation.

[Vazdania]

yes, but when that certain denomination goes through Apostacy, then it would be right and just for true believers to continue the CORRECT belief of the teachings of Christ.

Roman Catholicism is not apostasy.

well, if your saying Lutheranism is heresy, then I as a Bapitist, may say that Roman Catholicism has gone through apostacy. Proof for this includes praying to Mary, having to say sins to a "priest" when in actuality anyone can come to Christ. and many other things. So my dear friend, I do respect and I do love the Catholic Church, but it pains me to see some people say that other religous groups in the same religious family are heresy. We should be loving Christ, because it is him who judges us.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Bing is your friend.

It's funny you say that. I looked it up on Bing, and got no results.

Hmm...Maybe Google would work then.

[Menassa]

The end of the post..... I translated it.

You didn't make it clear that "the end of the post" is the translation.

Hmmm I was able to understand it...... and I think you're just trying to avoid the question.

[Abatael]

Jesus didn't write the Holy Bible.

Right his followers wrote the New Testament.

Which is why it can't be used as a source to prove he is what he says he is.

If you're having a theological debate (one that is not about whether, or not God is real, et caetera) about Christianity, you have to assume the Holy Bible is correct.

[Abatael]

You didn't make it clear that "the end of the post" is the translation.

Hmmm I was able to understand it...... and I think you're just trying to avoid the question.

Yes, you were able to understand, because you wrote the post, so, naturally, you would understand it.

What was your question?

[Menassa]

Right his followers wrote the New Testament.

Which is why it can't be used as a source to prove he is what he says he is.

If you're having a theological debate (one that is not about whether, or not God is real, et caetera) about Christianity, you have to assume the Holy Bible is correct.

You have to assume the Old Testament is correct...... when arguing that that the New Testament is false... if it was from one theist to another.

The New Testament cannot be true if the old Testament is false.... but the old Testament can be true if the New Testament is false.

[Vazdania]

If you're having a theological debate (one that is not about whether, or not God is real, et caetera) about Christianity, you have to assume the Holy Bible is correct.

You have to assume the Old Testament is correct...... when arguing that that the New Testament is false... if it was from one theist to another.

The New Testament cannot be true if the old Testament is false.... but the old Testament can be true if the New Testament is false.

The Old Testament has lost "authority" to Gentiles, it is not false. New Testament Law applies to Gentiles. Jews may continue to follow Old Testament if they so choose.

[LochNessMontropolis]

I think the important thing to remember is that God loves us and forgives us. Shouldn't we learn to love & forgive each other?

[Menassa]

You have to assume the Old Testament is correct...... when arguing that that the New Testament is false... if it was from one theist to another.

The New Testament cannot be true if the old Testament is false.... but the old Testament can be true if the New Testament is false.

The Old Testament has lost "authority" to Gentiles, it is not false. New Testament Law applies to Gentiles. Jews may continue to follow Old Testament if they so choose.

I know.

I was saying you cannot say it is false and then say the New Testament is true. Because the New Testament leans heavily on the old.

[Reggae Magmia]

I think the important thing to remember is that God loves us and forgives us. Shouldn't we learn to love & forgive each other?

So simple, yet so easily forgotten.

[Vazdania]

The Old Testament has lost "authority" to Gentiles, it is not false. New Testament Law applies to Gentiles. Jews may continue to follow Old Testament if they so choose.

I know.

I was saying you cannot say it is false and then say the New Testament is true. Because the New Testament leans heavily on the old.

One can't say the Old Testament is false...Indeed!!! How could it be false? it was the authority of God until around 2000 years ago. It was the law for all to follow if they were of God.

[Menassa]

I know.

I was saying you cannot say it is false and then say the New Testament is true. Because the New Testament leans heavily on the old.

One can't say the Old Testament is false...Indeed!!! How could it be false? it was the authority of God until around 2000 years ago. It was the law for all to follow if they were of God.

A little bit out of context there.... but sure we'll switch the topic..

Until 2000 years ago?

Why does it not continue for the Jews till today.... it was never for the gentiles.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

By the way Menessa you forgot my question, in Judaism do non Jews go to Heaven?

[Vazdania]

One can't say the Old Testament is false...Indeed!!! How could it be false? it was the authority of God until around 2000 years ago. It was the law for all to follow if they were of God.

A little bit out of context there.... but sure we'll switch the topic..

Until 2000 years ago?

Why does it not continue for the Jews till today.... it was never for the gentiles.

Yes, with the fufillment of the Christ, Son of God, we have a new law for Gentiles, I was saying that the Old Testament teachings still applies to Jews, as per Genesis 12:1-3,7.

[Menassa]

By the way Menessa you forgot my question, in Judaism do non Jews go to Heaven?

Yes, of course they do.

If they are good people they shall go to heaven.

Though, every Jew.... just for being a Jew is entered into heaven (some argue the Jew must be circumcised, others say just for being born)

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

By the way Menessa you forgot my question, in Judaism do non Jews go to Heaven?

Yes, of course they do.

If they are good people they shall go to heaven.

Though, every Jew.... just for being a Jew is entered into heaven (some argue the Jew must be circumcised, others say just for being born)

The non circumcised dont go to heaven?

[Vazdania]

Yes, of course they do.

If they are good people they shall go to heaven.

Though, every Jew.... just for being a Jew is entered into heaven (some argue the Jew must be circumcised, others say just for being born)

The non circumcised dont go to heaven?

its a Symbol of faith

[Menassa]

Yes, of course they do.

If they are good people they shall go to heaven.

Though, every Jew.... just for being a Jew is entered into heaven (some argue the Jew must be circumcised, others say just for being born)

The non circumcised dont go to heaven?

There is a large argument about whether the non-circumcised Jew goes to heaven.... some say he goes to heaven but dies before 60 others say he goes to heaven but dies childless or all three of those or doesn't go to heaven and maybe just one of those?

It's an intense argument.

[Menassa]

The non circumcised dont go to heaven?

its a Symbol of faith

It is more than a symbol it shows you have been entered into the covenant of Abraham and that you have been given the yoke of god's law.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

The non circumcised dont go to heaven?

There is a large argument about whether the non-circumcised Jew goes to heaven.... some say he goes to heaven but dies before 60 others say he goes to heaven but dies childless or all three of those or doesn't go to heaven and maybe just one of those?

It's an intense argument.

Apparently so.

[Tratvia]

Baptists have been around sinse Jesus' time you know ._. There is evidence to support the fact that there has been an endless line of succesion sinse that time. Furthermore, one will not be condemned if they worship differently. JOHN 3:16. READ IT LOVE IT KNOW IT.

I don't understand what you're trying to say about Baptism.

And, yes, God did love the world so, but not you betray his sacrifice, and don't listen to the Vicar of Christ.

So you're saying that the Bishop of Rome was right to cover up and deny all that child abuse? That the institutional sins of the Church of Rome don't matter because the Bishop of Rome is in direct succession from St. Peter? The faith of Jesus Christ is the best and most dangerous political philosophy ever invented. I just wish the Church of Rome would remember who the boss is supposed to be, and what he said.