Christian disscussion thread

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

The Hebrew Bible is the first five books of the OT, the rest are just Biblical prophets.

Not true. The Hebrew Bible are the 24-books.... the 'Torah' the rest are the Niviem (prophets) and Ketuvim (scriptures/writings) known as the Tanach...... though some may call this whole Tanach the Torah..... I tend too..... don't take it lightly the other books that are not the first five are very.... very important.

Oh. I had read that the five books of Moses, the first five of the OT, were the Hebrew Bible. I did not know this.

[Menassa]

Not true. The Hebrew Bible are the 24-books.... the 'Torah' the rest are the Niviem (prophets) and Ketuvim (scriptures/writings) known as the Tanach...... though some may call this whole Tanach the Torah..... I tend too..... don't take it lightly the other books that are not the first five are very.... very important.

Oh. I had read that the five books of Moses, the first five of the OT, were the Hebrew Bible. I did not know this.

Hmm it could be it was someone with a different interpretation the first five are the Torah (the law) and the rest again are prophets and writings but together they combine the 24 Book of the Hebrew Bible. Whereas a Christian bible would also have the new Testament and depending on denomination..... apocrypha.

[Vazdania]

Oh. I had read that the five books of Moses, the first five of the OT, were the Hebrew Bible. I did not know this.

Hmm it could be it was someone with a different interpretation the first five are the Torah (the law) and the rest again are prophets and writings but together they combine the 24 Book of the Hebrew Bible. Whereas a Christian bible would also have the new Testament and depending on denomination..... apocrypha.

you've left out the Psudopigrapha.....

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Oh. I had read that the five books of Moses, the first five of the OT, were the Hebrew Bible. I did not know this.

Hmm it could be it was someone with a different interpretation the first five are the Torah (the law) and the rest again are prophets and writings but together they combine the 24 Book of the Hebrew Bible. Whereas a Christian bible would also have the new Testament and depending on denomination..... apocrypha.

Yeah.

[Menassa]

Hmm it could be it was someone with a different interpretation the first five are the Torah (the law) and the rest again are prophets and writings but together they combine the 24 Book of the Hebrew Bible. Whereas a Christian bible would also have the new Testament and depending on denomination..... apocrypha.

you've left out the Psudopigrapha.....

Wasn't aware there was a difference but then again...... I don't really know much about other religions cannon.

[Vazdania]

My dear brothers and sisters in Christ. I am a spiritualist/Baptist....I would like to know your opinion on the other 2 main Abrahamic religions (Islam, and Judaism) Do you think they will saved? why or why not?

It's my opinion that Jews are saved through the Abrahamic Covanant of the the Old Testament (Genesis 12:1-3,7). This is God's covanant with Israel, and Abraham and his heirs. By this reading i've come to conclusion that Jews will be saved.

It is also my opinion that Muslims, can be possibly saved as well, because they DO have the same God as us. Yes they call God "Allah" but in Arabic that means "God." They believe Jesus was one of the Prophets and The Qu'ran is very very similar to the Bible.

[Vazdania]

you've left out the Psudopigrapha.....

Wasn't aware there was a difference but then again...... I don't really know much about other religions cannon.

The Psudopigrapha is a common "addition" in gnostic beliefs, as well as others. Personally I don't believe it's inspired text, BUT it gives GREAT insight into other aspects of the Bible.

[Abatael]

Thats right a thread just for christians! Or other religions that want to comment. Yep a place to discuss the holy bible, the lord, churches, etc. I figured that since there are a lot of christians on NSG it would be a good time to start a christian thread, i am not christian myself but have been thinking about converting to lutheranism. On another note please no insults to christianity or christians, if you dont like christianity thats fine but please dont flame and troll in this thread.

Don't convert to Lutheranism. You should convert to Roman Catholicism.

[Vazdania]

Thats right a thread just for christians! Or other religions that want to comment. Yep a place to discuss the holy bible, the lord, churches, etc. I figured that since there are a lot of christians on NSG it would be a good time to start a christian thread, i am not christian myself but have been thinking about converting to lutheranism. On another note please no insults to christianity or christians, if you dont like christianity thats fine but please dont flame and troll in this thread.

Don't convert to Lutheranism. You should convert to Roman Catholicism.

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Thats right a thread just for christians! Or other religions that want to comment. Yep a place to discuss the holy bible, the lord, churches, etc. I figured that since there are a lot of christians on NSG it would be a good time to start a christian thread, i am not christian myself but have been thinking about converting to lutheranism. On another note please no insults to christianity or christians, if you dont like christianity thats fine but please dont flame and troll in this thread.

Don't convert to Lutheranism. You should convert to Roman Catholicism.

I've been Lutheran for a year...But Catholicism is an interesting denomination to.

[Abatael]

Don't convert to Lutheranism. You should convert to Roman Catholicism.

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

Yes, Roman Catholicism, and Lutheranism both worship God; however, Lutheranism is heresy.

[Menassa]

Don't convert to Lutheranism. You should convert to Roman Catholicism.

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

Which Bible?

[Abatael]

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

Which Bible?

The one and only Bible: the Holy Bible

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

Yes, Roman Catholicism, and Lutheranism both worship God; however, Lutheranism is heresy.

Heresy? Does it say anywhere in the Bible "Hey worship me this way or its heresy!"? Protestant demoninations are NOT heresy.

[Abatael]

Yes, Roman Catholicism, and Lutheranism both worship God; however, Lutheranism is heresy.

Heresy? Does it say anywhere in the Bible "Hey worship me this way or its heresy!"? Protestant demoninations are NOT heresy.

Protestant denominations ARE heresy.

Jesus Christ built his Church on Peter, the Vicar of Christ upon Earth. Peter was the Pope, which is the head of the Roman Catholic Church. With the definition of "heresy," by the events, according to the Holy Bible, and by the transitive property, Lutheranism is heresy.

[Menassa]

Which Bible?

The one and only Bible: the Holy Bible

Riiiiiiight. I'm just going to stick with my Hebrew Bible and leave your newfangled addition alone.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Heresy? Does it say anywhere in the Bible "Hey worship me this way or its heresy!"? Protestant demoninations are NOT heresy.

Protestant denominations ARE heresy.

Jesus Christ built his Church on Peter, the Vicar of Christ upon Earth. Peter was the Pope, which is the head of the Roman Catholic Church. With the definition of "heresy," by the events, according to the Holy Bible, and by the transitive property, Lutheranism is heresy.

Please, do explain how Lutheranism is heresy. If you can give a convincing argument, I will convert to Catholicism.

[Abatael]

The one and only Bible: the Holy Bible

Riiiiiiight. I'm just going to stick with my Hebrew Bible and leave your newfangled addition alone.

That's the Tanakh.

[Abatael]

Protestant denominations ARE heresy.

Jesus Christ built his Church on Peter, the Vicar of Christ upon Earth. Peter was the Pope, which is the head of the Roman Catholic Church. With the definition of "heresy," by the events, according to the Holy Bible, and by the transitive property, Lutheranism is heresy.

Please, do explain how Lutheranism is heresy. If you can give a convincing argument, I will convert to Catholicism.

I just explained it to you.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Please, do explain how Lutheranism is heresy. If you can give a convincing argument, I will convert to Catholicism.

I just explained it to you.

That is a sad argument.

[Menassa]

Riiiiiiight. I'm just going to stick with my Hebrew Bible and leave your newfangled addition alone.

That's the Tanakh.

Yah. I know what a Tanach is and I know the difference between the original translation and the 'New' translation...... and by New I mean incorrect.

[Abatael]

I just explained it to you.

That is a sad argument.

Or, rather, you have no argument, and, as a heretic, you futilely defend your heresy.

[Vazdania]

Why? Both follow the same God? One should read the Bible and see what Denomination they think best fits their interpritation of The Bible. If one wants to be Catholic, then let them. If one wants to be Lutheran, then let them as well.

Yes, Roman Catholicism, and Lutheranism both worship God; however, Lutheranism is heresy.

no, it isn't. They worship God, they love Jesus. How is that Heresy? Loving Jesus, Worshipping God, and being moved by the Holy Spirit are the Christian Fath. Lutherans keep all of these things Sacred to thier religion. Each following it. I don't see how you can judge them, for you will be judged in heaven THE SAME WAY.

[Abatael]

Yes, Roman Catholicism, and Lutheranism both worship God; however, Lutheranism is heresy.

no, it isn't. They worship God, they love Jesus. How is that Heresy? Loving Jesus, Worshipping God, and being moved by the Holy Spirit are the Christian Fath. Lutherans keep all of these things Sacred to thier religion. Each following it. I don't see how you can judge them, for you will be judged in heaven THE SAME WAY.

No, it is. You obviously do not know what heresy is.

[Vazdania]

Heresy? Does it say anywhere in the Bible "Hey worship me this way or its heresy!"? Protestant demoninations are NOT heresy.

Protestant denominations ARE heresy.

Jesus Christ built his Church on Peter, the Vicar of Christ upon Earth. Peter was the Pope, which is the head of the Roman Catholic Church. With the definition of "heresy," by the events, according to the Holy Bible, and by the transitive property, Lutheranism is heresy.

Yes, Jesus built his church around Peter. That doesn't mean Lutherism is heresy. Lutherism rejected some of the teachings that the Catholic church INTRODUCED as it aged.