your take on religion?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

It's fundamentally not rational. There's no reason to believe in any of the religions out there.

[Blouman Empire]

Well this should be good.

I know, right?

Sarcasm doesn't come across all that well on the internet.

Maybe I should have used the /sarcasm tag.

I replied sarcastacally.

See my previous post.

[Blouman Empire]

We have science to tell us how the world works, and laws to tell us how to behave. Religion is, therefore, unnecessary.

I mean, you can still believe in it if you want, but it's a bit like staying with Windows 95; it's obsolete, the world is slowly passing it by, and eventually none of your software will work on it anymore.

Where do those laws come from?

[Czardas]

We have science to tell us how the world works, and laws to tell us how to behave. Religion is, therefore, unnecessary.

I mean, you can still believe in it if you want, but it's a bit like staying with Windows 95; it's obsolete, the world is slowly passing it by, and eventually none of your software will work on it anymore.

Where do those laws come from?

Congress and/or the Supreme Court, except for the ones mentioned in the Constitution which come mainly from James Madison and the Constitutional Convention.

[Blouman Empire]

We have science to tell us how the world works, and laws to tell us how to behave. Religion is, therefore, unnecessary.

I mean, you can still believe in it if you want, but it's a bit like staying with Windows 95; it's obsolete, the world is slowly passing it by, and eventually none of your software will work on it anymore.

Where do those laws come from?

Congress and/or the Supreme Court, except for the ones mentioned in the Constitution which come mainly from James Madison and the Constitutional Convention.

And where do they get it from?

Their beliefs whether they be religious or otherwise.

[Graigon]

Well, religion bashing all out here Anyways, I say allow people to believe in what they want. I can be Jewish if I want to, and shouldn't have to care what someone else says about that.

[Tangenaia]

We have science to tell us how the world works, and laws to tell us how to behave. Religion is, therefore, unnecessary.

I mean, you can still believe in it if you want, but it's a bit like staying with Windows 95; it's obsolete, the world is slowly passing it by, and eventually none of your software will work on it anymore.

Where do those laws come from?

Congress and/or the Supreme Court, except for the ones mentioned in the Constitution which come mainly from James Madison and the Constitutional Convention.

And where do they get it from?

Their beliefs whether they be religious or otherwise.

Czardas = Pwnt

[Consaria]

I'm all for religion. But I think the government should stay out of it.

[Czardas]

We have science to tell us how the world works, and laws to tell us how to behave. Religion is, therefore, unnecessary.

I mean, you can still believe in it if you want, but it's a bit like staying with Windows 95; it's obsolete, the world is slowly passing it by, and eventually none of your software will work on it anymore.

Where do those laws come from?

Congress and/or the Supreme Court, except for the ones mentioned in the Constitution which come mainly from James Madison and the Constitutional Convention.

And where do they get it from?

Their beliefs whether they be religious or otherwise.

Where they get it from is irrelevant, since everyone has to follow those laws whether they share the lawmakers' beliefs or not. Same with religion, really.

[Drachmar]

I'm all for religion. But I think the government should stay out of it.

I'm all for religion, but I think it should stay out of the government.

[Jordaxia]

My opinion on religion is not exactly positive. All of its positive qualities can be replicated secularly, without requiring belief in a personally invasive sky-deity whose ethics are questionable at best, and downright monstrous at worst.

[Rhodmhire]

I keep my religion modest, and don't share it with those who don't care to hear it.

Therefore, I think those who don't blow it in other people's faces are tolerable and decent.

Those who go around shoving it in people's faces who don't care to hear it, they need to learn to respect others.

[Drachmar]

My opinion on religion is not exactly positive. All of its positive qualities can be replicated secularly, without requiring belief in a personally invasive sky-deity whose ethics are questionable at best, and downright monstrous at worst.

Blasphemer!!!

The Flying Spaghetti Monster will be coming for you!

[Jordaxia]

Hardly. My fully logical scientific knowledge of Her holiness the Invisble Pink Unicorn will protect me from your pastafarian nonsense. Go and cause a meatball explosion on a bus.

[Drachmar]

Hardly. My fully logical scientific knowledge of Her holiness the Invisble Pink Unicorn will protect me from your pastafarian nonsense. Go and cause a meatball explosion on a bus.

Invisible Pink Unicorn eh? How do you know she's there? Got any proof?

[Alancar]

My take on religion? Its awesome! Well, at least the one with all the prostitutes is...the others? Not so much

[Jordaxia]

Hardly. My fully logical scientific knowledge of Her holiness the Invisble Pink Unicorn will protect me from your pastafarian nonsense. Go and cause a meatball explosion on a bus.

Invisible Pink Unicorn eh? How do you know she's there? Got any proof?

Of course. She's invisible. I can prove this, because I can't see her. Were she to be fictional, I'd be unable to prove it, because fictional things are unfalsifiable.

[Grave_n_idle]

Well, religion bashing all out here Anyways, I say allow people to believe in what they want. I can be Jewish if I want to, and shouldn't have to care what someone else says about that.

Agreed.

Of course, the flipside of that coin is, no one else should have to care what you believe either - and that presents a more realistic problem... because a lot of people are dedicated to making the laws of the land fit their theology.

[Blouman Empire]

Where they get it from is irrelevant, since everyone has to follow those laws whether they share the lawmakers' beliefs or not. Same with religion, really.

Not no really at all.

We have laws because people have implemented them because it is their belief that it should be the law. Laws don't just appear out of thin air they come from peoples ideals they may use their religion, thy may use their experiences they may simply do it because the media has told them to.

[Cameroi]

every thousand years, give or take a few hundred, big, friendly and invisible, otherwise labeled "god", picks someone to be channeled by. in a very few centuries, sometimes only decades, people have screwed/spun around what it and they were trying to tell us, into all the more excuses for doing just almost the exact opposite anyway.

[Reblle]

I wish it never happened.

[Sitspot]

It has caused a lot of problems, but then so has atheism - Stalin and Pol Pot to name a few. As far as I know the agnostics have a pretty good track record, but then I don't think they've been in charge.
Is it just vaguely possible that a human propensity to abuse power is the actual problem rather than anything intrinsic to religion?

[Tunizcha]

It has caused a lot of problems, but then so has atheism - Stalin and Pol Pot to name a few. As far as I know the agnostics have a pretty good track record, but then I don't think they've been in charge.
Is it just vaguely possible that a human propensity to abuse power is the actual problem rather than anything intrinsic to religion?

I'm just nitpicking here, but the problems you highlighted were committed by atheists, not because of atheism.

Not really anything important, but I'm just nitpicking.

[Sitspot]

It has caused a lot of problems, but then so has atheism - Stalin and Pol Pot to name a few. As far as I know the agnostics have a pretty good track record, but then I don't think they've been in charge.
Is it just vaguely possible that a human propensity to abuse power is the actual problem rather than anything intrinsic to religion?

I'm just nitpicking here, but the problems you highlighted were committed by atheists, not because of atheism.

Not really anything important, but I'm just nitpicking.

I don't actually agree, in that both Stalin & Pol Pot saw atheism as central to their political doctrine and enforced it brutally as as part of their overall policy.

[New Xania]

my take on religion? well, one day, there was crazy leader who kept raping and pilleging(I spelt it wrong, so what?) so, one day, one random guy comes and says that if you don't rape and pillege, when you die,there is a big chocolate cake waiting for you. So, as this went on, people started wars on whether you get ice cream, cake, pie, or spray cheese if you don't rape and pillege. So, one day this guy named jesus comes and sais that you can have all of that if you don't rape, and pillege, so they nail him to a fucking cross. And that children, is religion.

Sounds like you saw Patton Oswalt.

My take on religion is that I've been religious all my life and don't regret a second. On September 11th of this year it helped me become a happier person when I saw Joel Osteen. That one night did more good for me then years of consuling.

So yeah, for some of us religion is the greatest thing in the world.