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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:15 pm

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Not my favorite, but definely a fringe Christian sect. Those crazy Christians!

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Postby Phillippanoa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:06 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a certain amount of respect for the Mormon.


except that "the Mormon" is not a sect

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Postby -Raysia- » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:19 am

Phillippanoa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a certain amount of respect for the Mormon.


except that "the Mormon" is not a sect

Well, actually, yeah... Mormons are. And then there are sub-sects of mormonism, but those ones are the real nutsy ones.

The 'normal' Mormons are the ones who believe in science and revelation and prophecy and that the Bible isn't the only words God ever wanted us to read or hear...

Just out of hilarity/awesomeness, Glen Beck is a devout mormon...

But, uhh, those amish-like guys in the remote areas of the country that marry off their kids real young into polygamous relationships? Uhh, yeah, different mormons :P

And I happen to know mennonites/amish... those guys are relatively normal compared to the weird mormon sects :P
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Postby Phillippanoa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:29 am

-Raysia- wrote:
Phillippanoa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a certain amount of respect for the Mormon.


except that "the Mormon" is not a sect

Well, actually, yeah... Mormons are. And then there are sub-sects of mormonism, but those ones are the real nutsy ones.

The 'normal' Mormons are the ones who believe in science and revelation and prophecy and that the Bible isn't the only words God ever wanted us to read or hear...

Just out of hilarity/awesomeness, Glen Beck is a devout mormon...

But, uhh, those amish-like guys in the remote areas of the country that marry off their kids real young into polygamous relationships? Uhh, yeah, different mormons :P

And I happen to know mennonites/amish... those guys are relatively normal compared to the weird mormon sects :P


Yeah, there are mormon based sects, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is technically and officially a denomination (like the Protestants, and Catholics)
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:21 am

Brogavia wrote:Whats your favorite Christian fringe sect of all time?

I'd say the Ranters, who worshipped by getting drunk, smoking and having sex.

If hey hadn't died out, and my town had a Ranter church, I'd be there several times a week.


I'd say the Waldenses. Because they don't go around asking for money and power, like Catholics, Protestants and Orthodoxes do.
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Postby Meoton » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:28 am

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:31 am

Buchanan-1 wrote:There is only one Truth.

Failure to accept the Truth makes it no less true.


while this itself may be true,
it is highly unlikely to be what any one system of belief exclusively claims it to be.

ONE truth, that certainly meets that spec, is that the unknown is unknown.

the does not preclude the possible existence of anything we might feel or imagine,
some of which, could very well correspond, or at least resemble, some things that might actually be,
but again, those things, the ultimate awareness included, are under no obligation to do so.
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Postby Allbeama » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:33 am

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Gordonisia wrote:gotta love those crazy mormons :p

They are Sexist, Rasist, Scientificly Illiterate Fools.


All that shows is a distinct fudging of linguistics.
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Postby Tall Tramps » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:33 am

My favourite christian sect.

The Branch Davidian Seventh Day Adventists

For those of you who dont know who the Branch Davidians were, They decided they were gonna fight the man.

The man came all the way to their house in downtown Waco Texas where the man failed to bring them out peacefully so sent the tanks in.

Nuff said really.

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Postby Allbeama » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:39 am

Buchanan-1 wrote:There is only one Truth.

Failure to accept the Truth makes it no less true.


:palm: Its not a Truth unless there is irrefutable proof and solid evidence. Until then it is only a truth. Learn something about relativism or skepticism. Saying something is so does not make it so.
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Postby Kobrania » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:43 am

Any sect that manages to obey all the rules, live in poverty and help those less fortunate and be generally good people.


Oh right, there isn't one. :eyebrow:
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Postby Jeuna » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:48 am

Scottish Covenanters.

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Postby Tall Tramps » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:59 am

I dunno David Koresh fought the man while saying he was the next coming of jesus. Gotta admit thats pretty epic.

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Postby Kobrania » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:01 am

Why fight for god? Is he a weak old man? Violence should have no part in religion.
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Postby Tall Tramps » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:03 am

Because the flying spagetti monster would be eaten if he fought himself..Duh...

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Postby Kobrania » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:05 am

Aren't gods by nature impervious to mortal means?
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:05 am

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:05 am

Kobrania wrote:Aren't gods by nature impervious to mortal means?


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Postby Kobrania » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:06 am

As long as I am allowed to put bacon in my spagetti balogna, we are cool.
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Postby Tall Tramps » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:11 am

PSSSSSST.

Your asking the wrong dude. I'm not someone who believes in convential spirutality.

In my honest beliefs, I choose to accept that the Doctrine laid out in Tao philosphy is a better spirtual guide then the more standard codex's of Judaism, Islam and Christianity (in all of it's forms) I dont profess to be a religious person. In case you didn't get my above point. I was being sarcastic :D

I just find the case of the Branch Davidians a fitting example of just excatly whats wrong with the world. I mean take america and take texas. It's a fairly religious environment I gather, compared with other states. Why it's a fitting example and why I personally brought it up is what happens when America can't control it's own methods of self controlling the public. Granted it happened in 90's and sure there's been alot of change so far. But nothings really changed. If there was another Waco scenerio which I hope there won't be because of the loss of life involved. I dont think anything will have changed and I thnk the ATF forces and the Army reserve that were present at the siege will resort to the same methods.

And dont touch my saucy god...He has feelins too
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Postby Kobrania » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:13 am

I am personally agnostic, though I get mst of my morality from the ne testament and the buddist religion.

Oh, I am against killing anyone without their express permission.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:53 am

Phillippanoa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a certain amount of respect for the Mormon.


except that "the Mormon" is not a sect


Yes, they are. I wonder if you know the meaning of the word ''sect''? Sect is referring to a group or movement with heretical beliefs or practices that deviate from those of groups considered orthodox. Mormonism deviates, totally, from the original Christian canon so, yes, they're a Christian sect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sect#Etymology
The word sect comes from the Latin secta (from sequor : to follow, or seco : to cut) and refers to a scission or cut, as sects were cut away from the mainstream religion.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism#Mormon_theology
The most authoritative sources of Mormon theology are its canon of scripture, which includes the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.[3] Of these books, Mormons hold that the Book of Mormon is "the most correct of any book on earth and the keystone of [their] religion".[4]


First difference, which makes Mormonism a sect: For Orthodox Christians, the Bible is the correct book. Not so for the Mormons.

The Bible is accepted as "the word of God as far as it is translated correctly".[5] Deeper and less-known Mormon doctrines may be found in the remaining two works, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price, as well as statements by Mormon leaders, and from the Mormon Endowment ceremony. Sometimes, parts of a version of the Bible by Joseph Smith, Jr. is considered authoritative, and some excerpts have been included in the Pearl of Great Price. Thus, the theology of Mormonism consists of a mixture of mainstream Christianity and added revelations, ostensible translations of other reputed ancient works, and commentary by Joseph Smith and other Mormon leaders.


Bolded to show another difference.

In addition to a general belief in the Bible and the Atonement of Jesus, other Mormon teachings are shared by factions of mainstream Christianity. For example, Mormon theology includes Restorationism (the belief in a Great Apostasy followed by a Restoration), Millenialism (belief in a thousand year reign of peace on the earth after the Second Coming), and baptism by immersion, a rejection of the original sin doctrine, Apostolic succession (via a vision of apostles to Joseph Smith), and Continuationism.


Another difference.

However, the foundations of Mormon theology are distinctive in many ways from most traditional Christianity. Historically, Mormonism is associated with the doctrine of plural marriage, which is still practiced within Mormon fundamentalism, though long been abandoned by the LDS Church. Mormon theology does not follow the Nicene Creed, in that it views the Trinity as three persons with distinct physical (or, in the case of the Holy Spirit, spirit) bodies. Mormonism includes a distinctive Mormon cosmology, a unique Plan of Salvation that includes three heavens, and a doctrine of Exaltation which includes the ability of humans to become gods and goddesses in the afterlife.


Bolded, again, to show key difference.
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Postby Douchebaggerry » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:55 am

Tall Tramps wrote:I dunno David Koresh fought the man while saying he was the next coming of jesus. Gotta admit thats pretty epic.


Who was that guy in America who claimed to be paving the way for Jesus and beat people to death with crosses?
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Postby Tall Tramps » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:12 am

Douchebaggerry wrote:
Tall Tramps wrote:I dunno David Koresh fought the man while saying he was the next coming of jesus. Gotta admit thats pretty epic.


Who was that guy in America who claimed to be paving the way for Jesus and beat people to death with crosses?


Not David Koresh :D

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