Obama or Romney?

[TaQud]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

What?

I don't think he/she doesn't know what they are talking about

[Ashmoria]

I used to have a small measure of faith in the American people. The results of the poll evaporated it instantly. Complete collapse, here we come.

not everyone here is a US citizen.

[Bernese Oberland]

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[Eviliatopia]

What?

I don't think he/she doesn't know what they are talking about

Bush passed the PATRIOT ACT. Obama extended it as to threaten the habeas corpus. Romney seems to be even more authoritarian than him.

See what I meant?

The president of the USA holds dictatorial powers. He can kidnapp or kill you without consequences. Romney and Obama are two horrible Neocons that I don't trust, it's only that I find Obama to be the lesser evil.

I miss Ron Paul.

[TaQud]

I don't think he/she doesn't know what they are talking about

Bush passed the PATRIOT ACT. Obama extended it as to threaten the habeas corpus. Romney seems to be even more authoritarian than him.

See what I meant?

The president of the USA holds dictatorial powers. He can kidnapp or kill you without consequences. Romney and Obama are two horrible Neocons that I don't trust, I find Obama to be the lesser evil.

I miss Ron Paul.

Sounds like Andrew Jackson when you say dictatorial powers

[Krownsinburg]

Obama? Why would I vote for some Muslim foreigner who can't run a country for shit?

And Romney? Don't even get me started on THAT guy.

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

I hate Romney, but I DESPISE Barry.

[Eviliatopia]

Sounds like Andrew Jackson when you say dictatorial powers

That must be hilarious but I'm not american and so I'm puzzled...

[TaQud]

Obama? Why would I vote for some Muslim foreigner who can't run a country for shit?

And Romney? Don't even get me started on THAT guy.

If you hate both just vote for for independent party

[Eviliatopia]

Obama? Why would I vote for some Muslim foreigner who can't run a country for shit?

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Bordurian]

Sounds like Andrew Jackson when you say dictatorial powers

That must be hilarious but I'm not american and so I'm puzzled...

I'm not American but I still get it…

[TaQud]

Sounds like Andrew Jackson when you say dictatorial powers

That must be hilarious but I'm not american and so I'm puzzled...

Jackson: Created the force bill and used it for states to obey laws and acts. Trail of Tears, Native American trail in which they were forced off their land

[Mainly Boring Passtimes]

If you went into a store and there were only two types of bread, they'd call that communism, but we get a choice of two (marginally) different types of president and they call that democracy. Strange.

Still, I will be voting against Romney. George Herbert Walker Bush is the modern president I admire most, but not a single Republican candidate since 1992 has demonstrated his pragmatism, or ability to deal with nuance. Dole came closest, and its S**t after that.

[Sailsia]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

[Eviliatopia]

Jackson: Created the force bill and used it for states to obey laws and acts. Trail of Tears, Native American trail in which they were forced off their land

Okay. Obviously the two candidates are of Jacksonian descent

[Archliva]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

Actually that's completely untrue. With Obama, he's more than likely to indirectly stop all that crap through nominating liberal judges to federal courts and the Supreme Court where as Romney will nominate fascist leaning judges that favor the government over the people.

[Sailsia]

I supported Gingrich from the start. Feh.

The lesser of two evils is obviously Romney, I just can't bring myself to vote for him.

ya pretty much this.

At this point, I think the best strategy is to give none of these guys 2 terms, that way you can minimize the damage they do.

[Eviliatopia]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

Yeah, that's right. Bush instigated the fascism, Obama took it further and... I think Romney would achieve the damned thing.

Oh man imagine if Santorum had won the nomination...

[TaQud]

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

Yeah, that's right. Bush instigated the fascism, Obama took it further and... I think Romney would achieve the damned thing.

Oh man imagine if Santorum had won the nomination...

Technically he would have bought catholicism with politics which is bad and terrifying

[Acroticus]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

Bush ended stem cell research, began two wars while lowering taxes, fought for a law to make gay marriage illegal, and spent billions of dollars on a "so strings attached" banking bailout. Obama restarted stem cell research, fights for raising taxes, ended a war, and has began the withdraw from Afghanistan, ended don't ask don't tell, which was honestly embarrassing for a modern nation, and saved GM with a bailout that was somewhat paid back. And Obama fought against things like SOPA. A Republican Congress will make every administration look like Bush.

Despite what many people say, Congress has more power than the President. Congress must be changed, both Democrats and Republicans, if you want real change. Until then, many Presidents will look similar because it is Congress running the show.

[Sailsia]

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

Yeah, that's right. Bush instigated the fascism, Obama took it further and... I think Romney would achieve the damned thing.

Oh man imagine if Santorum had won the nomination...

Romney will do the same thing as Obama. There isn't going to be a president who just "assumes" the fascist powers which have been rigged up. No, more than likely, some day (its bound to happen within the next few decades) there will be some form of civil unrest. That's when you'll see these powers used. But until then, no one will want to rock the boat and risk the American people actually realizing the executive branch has authoritarian powers which they were not intended to have.

[TaQud]

So for a sum up:What bush did obama did the opposite

[Archliva]

Yeah, that's right. Bush instigated the fascism, Obama took it further and... I think Romney would achieve the damned thing.

Oh man imagine if Santorum had won the nomination...

Romney will do the same thing as Obama. There isn't going to be a president who just "assumes" the fascist powers which have been rigged up. No, more than likely, some day (its bound to happen within the next few decades) there will be some form of civil unrest. That's when you'll see these powers used. But until then, no one will want to rock the boat and risk the American people actually realizing the executive branch has authoritarian powers which they were not intended to have.

No, he will be worse.

He's going to nominate young conservative judges and would have the chance to replace Gingsburg and Breyer on the Supreme Court which would effectivley overturn Roe v. Wade, Miranda v. Arizona, Mapp v. Ohio and countless others.

If you think Romney would be the same as Obama, you need to reevaluate your analysis of the two.

[Bordurian]

If you Americans want to avoid Nuclear Holocaust then vote Obama.

[Sailsia]

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

Bush ended stem cell research, began two wars while lowering taxes, fought for a law to make gay marriage illegal, and spent billions of dollars on a "so strings attached" banking bailout. Obama restarted stem cell research, fights for raising taxes, ended a war, and has began the withdraw from Afghanistan, ended don't ask don't tell, which was honestly embarrassing for a modern nation, and saved GM with a bailout that was somewhat paid back. And Obama fought against things like SOPA. A Republican Congress will make every administration look like Bush.

Despite what many people say, Congress has more power than the President. Congress must be changed, both Democrats and Republicans, if you want real change. Until then, many Presidents will look similar because it is Congress running the show.

I've heard all this before. Obama, if you didn't notice, had a super majority for a long time. He is not fighting to raise taxes on the top earners (he is saying he will fight for it, but he knows it wont ever happen) he never ended the war in iraq. the pull out date was something bush signed off on. in actuality, the Obama administration tried to get the iraqis to let us stay longer. and no, surging more troops, failing, and taking 3 or 4 years to pull out of a country is not an achievement i would brag about. as for sopa/pipa, when did he actually take action against it? never. and the auto bail outs would have happened under any president, do you know how huge their lobby is? Stem cell research is not a major social issue, so I don't know what is so great about him restoring it. Meanwhile, he defends the DOMA, and let's not forget the crowning jewel of Obama's hypocrasy:
>Says he won't prosecute Marijuana dispensaries in states where medical marijuana is legal
>Prosecutes dispensaries in states where medical marijuana is legal