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by Des Moines » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:26 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:28 pm
IshCong wrote:New England and The Maritimes wrote:
1. Detroit has been suffering since the early 80s. Coincidentally, this is when GM started moving its factories to Mexico(while retaining its same generous tax breaks,) thanks to Reagan's union busting and the administration just generally being in bed with corporations on a level completely unseen before.
Wait, you are saying that removing US unions caused GM to move to Mexico?
Elaborate please?
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Wamitoria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:29 pm
Inter de Milano wrote:Wamitoria wrote:Yes, but all three of those would overshadow him. People would be voting for the VP candidate.
Also, never get excited about one poll. It's about the trend, not the individual results.
Several other polls indicate the gap closing. Pew Research has it at 45-49 Obama, statistically the same, CBS has it as a tie, and Rasmussen and Gallup have Romney at +1 and +5 respectively. I am sensing a change in the wind.

by Vadia » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:44 pm

by Wamitoria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:46 pm
Vadia wrote:Woah Woah Woah........The world doesn't hate us. It's just that the people who hate us have megaphones. In fact the world as a whole doesn't hate us , but we do hate ourselves. You ask someone of the street and they think that the world hates us. They think that we did horrible things and need to stop them now. However were they all that horrrible and how much of the world truly hates us?
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/680.php
See for yourself and decide what they think.

by Warriors United » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:57 pm
Des Moines wrote:Obama all the way. Mitt Romney doesn't know what it's like to be a true middle class American. He's been rich his whole life so why should he decide what's best for the 99% of Americans that are middle or lower class income. Romney also brings to much religion into the government like every other republican president or canidate.

by WhoseyWhatzIt » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:07 pm

by Hittanryan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:59 pm
Warriors United wrote:Des Moines wrote:Obama all the way. Mitt Romney doesn't know what it's like to be a true middle class American. He's been rich his whole life so why should he decide what's best for the 99% of Americans that are middle or lower class income. Romney also brings to much religion into the government like every other republican president or canidate.
Politicians in general have no clue about economics. They do not know what it is like in the real world because they live in a different one. Romney has my vote though.

by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:07 pm

by Tmutarakhan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:19 pm
Divair wrote:The USA was funding Al-Qaeda and the Taliban since the 60's and 70's to fight the Soviets.

by New England and The Maritimes » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:51 pm
Tmutarakhan wrote:Divair wrote:The USA was funding Al-Qaeda and the Taliban since the 60's and 70's to fight the Soviets.
The Soviets had nothing to do with Afghanistan until they invaded in 1979. The USA began funding mujahideen (fighters from Afghanistan) in the mid-80's, but al-Qaeda (fighters from elsewhere in the Muslim world, who went to Afghanistan but did not get along well with many of the native Afghan groups) was funded by bin-Laden's personal fortune, and he always hated the US (the false claim that "US funded al-Qaeda" seems to be hard to kill). Some of the mujahideen eventually became part of the Taliban, although the "Taliban" as a group did not exist until after the Soviets had left and the US had lost interest (the Pakistani intelligence agencies are usually credited with organizing them); other mujahideen became part of the Northern Alliance, the Taliban's arch-enemies, or other groups.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Vetalia » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:45 pm
Des Moines wrote:Obama all the way. Mitt Romney doesn't know what it's like to be a true middle class American. He's been rich his whole life so why should he decide what's best for the 99% of Americans that are middle or lower class income. Romney also brings to much religion into the government like every other republican president or canidate.

by Democratic Koyro » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:47 pm

by Wamitoria » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:47 pm
Vetalia wrote:Des Moines wrote:Obama all the way. Mitt Romney doesn't know what it's like to be a true middle class American. He's been rich his whole life so why should he decide what's best for the 99% of Americans that are middle or lower class income. Romney also brings to much religion into the government like every other republican president or canidate.
And Obama does...

by Vetalia » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:49 pm
Wamitoria wrote:Yeah. His mom was on food stamps when he was a kid.

by Inky Noodles » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:52 pm

by New Libete » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:53 pm
Farnhamia wrote:New Libete wrote:I don't like any of them. They're all politics-as-usual scumbags. They say they'll do stuff and then don't, or later refute what they said. Romney is confusing. He was a completely different person 4 years ago. Obama has been seen not saluting the flag while the National Anthem was being played and the Pledge of Allegiance being said. (Before you attack my credibility, this was seen by one of my brother's friends while she was on tour in Iraq. Several people in her barracks got pictures of his idiocy.) I can forgive a lot, but blatant disregard for our National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance by our LEADER? Not gonna happen.
That's all you got? You'll have to provide a source for Obama disregarding the anthem and the pledge. And your brother's friends are not sources.

by Inky Noodles » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:56 pm
Des Moines wrote:Obama all the way. Mitt Romney doesn't know what it's like to be a true middle class American. He's been rich his whole life so why should he decide what's best for the 99% of Americans that are middle or lower class income. Romney also brings to much religion into the government like every other republican president or canidate.

by Nidaria » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
Farnhamia wrote:New Libete wrote:I don't like any of them. They're all politics-as-usual scumbags. They say they'll do stuff and then don't, or later refute what they said. Romney is confusing. He was a completely different person 4 years ago. Obama has been seen not saluting the flag while the National Anthem was being played and the Pledge of Allegiance being said. (Before you attack my credibility, this was seen by one of my brother's friends while she was on tour in Iraq. Several people in her barracks got pictures of his idiocy.) I can forgive a lot, but blatant disregard for our National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance by our LEADER? Not gonna happen.
That's all you got? You'll have to provide a source for Obama disregarding the anthem and the pledge. And your brother's friends are not sources.

by Condunum » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:05 pm
New Libete wrote:Farnhamia wrote:That's all you got? You'll have to provide a source for Obama disregarding the anthem and the pledge. And your brother's friends are not sources.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that while expressing an opinion I had to provide sources. You don't have to believe me. What makes a source anyway? The number of people who believe it? The number of people who see it? Sorry. I saw pictures, and that's enough for me. They don't have to come from a mainstream newspaper for me to believe them. And no I don't have access to these pictures, so don't ask.

by Farnhamia » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:24 pm
New Libete wrote:Farnhamia wrote:That's all you got? You'll have to provide a source for Obama disregarding the anthem and the pledge. And your brother's friends are not sources.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that while expressing an opinion I had to provide sources. You don't have to believe me. What makes a source anyway? The number of people who believe it? The number of people who see it? Sorry. I saw pictures, and that's enough for me. They don't have to come from a mainstream newspaper for me to believe them. And no I don't have access to these pictures, so don't ask.

by Land of the Golden Dawn » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:35 pm

by Wikkiwallana » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:38 pm
New Libete wrote:Farnhamia wrote:That's all you got? You'll have to provide a source for Obama disregarding the anthem and the pledge. And your brother's friends are not sources.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that while expressing an opinion I had to provide sources. You don't have to believe me. What makes a source anyway? The number of people who believe it? The number of people who see it? Sorry. I saw pictures, and that's enough for me. They don't have to come from a mainstream newspaper for me to believe them. And no I don't have access to these pictures, so don't ask.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
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