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Who do you support for president of the USA in 2012?

I support Mitt Romney
250
21%
I support neither
341
28%
I support Barrack Obama
624
51%
 
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Khadgar
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:13 am

Romney is a bit like a Kinder Surprise, you're not quite sure what's really inside, but it'll probably suck.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:47 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Inter de Milano wrote:
If you were an incumbent president, would you be comfortable only beating your opponent by 2-5 points in key swing states (even though he may not be your opponent come November) nearly 6 months before the election? I would be extremely nervous and hope that Romney either picks another Sarah Palin or the economy gets back on track.

Sure, why not? It's something to build on. There are six months of campaigning to go through, I wouldn't be worried. If I were Mitt Romney, I would be worrying that the economy is going to keep improving over the summer and fall. Then I'm really screwed. I'd also worry about how the hell I'm going to get back even near the center when the House leadership just announced that they're in charge. I'd be sweating bullets, in fact, because those are the guys who took Speaker Boehner out behind the Capitol and explained things to him last year.

I'd also be scared because my favorable rating were the lowest since 1984.

pffft

if i were mitt romney i would trust that god would tank the economy or provide another terrible problem at exactly the right time to win the election. romney is the white horse and its his turn to be in the white house.
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Postby Oliver the Mediocre » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:49 am

I cast my vote for Obama, but I'm not American, and I really just want Jack Layton back. Obama's the less repugnant of the two, in my eyes.
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Postby NewtGingrich » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:50 am

No PResident has ever done more harm to our nation than Obama. Mitt Romney I'm not a fan of, but if it gets that crook out of office than I'm all for him .

Go Romney in 2012!!!

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:53 am

420NATION420 wrote:R U FUCKING kidding me obama has wated sooo much tax payers money.and created soooo much debt.we need any body but obama hes has spent more money then all the presidents put 2 gether dont believe me research it.

ya but 42, if you dont look at the reasons behind that spending you arent doing anything but parroting republican talking points.


can you think of any reason why the deficit would have widened in the past 4 years?
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:53 am

dp

im gonna vote for obama twice too.
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Re: Obama or Romney?

Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:59 am

Arkinesia wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:More evidence that Romney has pretty much no appeal.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/record-s ... 4-zdO2W4qZ

Um, that ABC poll is a crock of shit.

It listed 34% Democrat voters, 23% Republicans, and 43% independent.

It is not even remotely representative of the US electorate, which is closer to 55-60% independent. It should surprise no-one that a poll with more Democrat voters favors the Democrat.

Do you understand how polling works?

Your sample doesn't have to match the population sample if you adjust the results for sub-sample variations.

For example, let's suppose you take a poll, and 63% of the poll respondents are men while 37% are women. In the poll, men favor option A by a 55-45 margin, while women favor B by a 60-40 margin.

In your raw polling results, because men outnumber women 63-37, B leads A in popularity by a 51-49 margin. That's not accurate, however, because your poll had more male respondents than female ones; to make the poll accurate, you need to adjust the polling size of each sub-sample to match the makeup of the general population. After doing this, your corrected poll now favors B by a 53-47 margin.

Actually poll results involve many, many more corrections; at the end of the day, however, they produce relatively accurate results.

And, if you think about it, why would a polling agency want to publish inaccurate results? Polling agencies like Gallup do more than produce election polls for news agencies; they generate consumer preference polls for private industry. It's a commercial product, for crying out loud: The more accurately your polling agency's results, the better contracts you get from businesses that are interested in consumer surveys on all sorts of things from customer satisfaction to new product acceptance.

Or don't you believe that competitive free markets produce good products?
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Re: Obama or Romney?

Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:03 am

CoolBoyGcp wrote:
...[Romney] didn't go to a good college..

Did you know that Romney and Obama both went to Harvard?



Just for the record, the stupid in this thread (from various people on both sides) makes my brain hurt.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:38 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh my freaking god how many times must i explain this! I am only socialist on economic issues, i am conservative on other issues, understand?


... Yuck.

What are you, a fat ex-KGB agent?

Alien Space Bats wrote:
CoolBoyGcp wrote:
...[Romney] didn't go to a good college..

Did you know that Romney and Obama both went to Harvard?



Just for the record, the stupid in this thread (from various people on both sides) makes my brain hurt.


It's OK. That's your brain loosing neurons.

Eventually, you will become one of them, and you won't even care that you're dumber than a picket fence... Or something that's REALLY dumb.
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Postby Pahlavistan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:39 am

GO Paul
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:41 am


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I feel so smart :D

Postby Leeeeroyyyy7 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:44 am

Someone I know told me that they believe that, since Obama spent his first term trying to appeal to the public, if he gets re-elected he'll actually do something. My response at first: :eyebrow: and then :shock: as I realized he's pro'lly right.

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obama obviously

Postby The United Britannian States » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:45 am

im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

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Postby Pahlavistan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:12 am

The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

I agree with every word
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:32 am

The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:33 am

Leeeeroyyyy7 wrote:Someone I know told me that they believe that, since Obama spent his first term trying to appeal to the public, if he gets re-elected he'll actually do something. My response at first: :eyebrow: and then :shock: as I realized he's pro'lly right.

Of course he is. Every president is concerned about getting re-elected. After they get re-elected, they actually focus on their job.

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Pahlavistan
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Postby Pahlavistan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:35 am

Nidaria wrote:
The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

sigh a Conservative.....
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:36 am

Nidaria wrote:
The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Poe's law.

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Nidaria
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:38 am

Pahlavistan wrote:
Nidaria wrote:And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

sigh a Conservative.....

Nope, I am a traditionalist!
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Postby Pahlavistan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:39 am

At first I thought that the Republicans were going back to the pre 1964 stance but when Romney said about gun laws I lost every support form him (well I support the Democrats 95% of the time)
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Postby Warriors United » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:40 am

Romney because he is not Obama. Almost anyone would be better. I don't care for Romney...he changes too much. Gingrich on the other hand is really smart and could tear Obama down on any topic. Too bad he likely won't be the canidate according to polls...
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Postby IshCong » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:40 am

Nidaria wrote:
The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates


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Postby IshCong » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:41 am

Pahlavistan wrote:
Nidaria wrote:And Obama is a socialist, homosexual, affirmative action, pro-abortionist pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

sigh a Conservative.....


Sigh, a stereotype.....
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Postby Post War America » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:42 am

They can both rot in hell.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:59 am

Nidaria wrote:
The United Britannian States wrote:im british but i want obama to win. romney is a facist, homophobic, racist, anti abortionist pig. along with all the other republican candidates

And Obama is a socialist[1], homosexual[2], affirmative action[3], pro-abortionist[4] pig. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


1) Not true, nice if it were though
2) Not true, irrelevant
3) Meh, it's an improvement over being a racist
4) Good
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