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Who do you support for president of the USA in 2012?

I support Mitt Romney
250
21%
I support neither
341
28%
I support Barrack Obama
624
51%
 
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Mahlen
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Postby Mahlen » Wed May 16, 2012 12:18 am

If I could, I'd just get an island and stay away from it all.
Honestly, I don't care for Obama, and it's entirely too difficult to tell what Romney actually believes.

To top it off, I'm mostly fiscally and educationally conservative (if mentally/physically able, you work and earn your education/paycheck, and everyone pays the same percentage of tax),
but somewhat socially laissez-faire (consenting adults, whatever race/gender/etc., can marry, and prayer/religious imagery - or lack thereof - is allowed by any person/business/etc. of any religion without being harassed or sued.)

I guess I just have to ask... can we just get an entirely new system going? No set parties - just each candidate prepares and posts a list of what he believes, you fill out a form of your beliefs, whoever ends up aligning the most with your beliefs gets your vote. Whoever gets the most votes can be president. And if he has obviously lied about his beliefs to get votes, we can get rid of him.
I say "he", but it applies to either gender. Just so you don't flip out.

I dunno. Just tired of stubborn, straight-ticket idgits who just decide to vote for someone because he's a "donkey" or an "elephant."
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Postby Progenitoria » Wed May 16, 2012 12:29 am

Obama. As if I have a choice.
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Postby Risottia » Wed May 16, 2012 12:31 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote: I support Mitt Romney, he is not the best candidate the republicans have ever sent out


Yeahh... why not vote for someone who raises taxes on drivers' licences and marriages, slashes down public education, all to end up in a deficit?
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Mike the Progressive
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 am

Eh, as if there really is a difference. Romney isn't as right as he is playing to be and Obama will continue on governing from the center. Glad those are the choices (rather than actual radically different candidates).

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Postby Lowell Leber » Wed May 16, 2012 12:40 am

As a conservative who voted for Obama in 2008 based on "Hope and Change" (Sorry, I mean Palin scared me as a possible VP. Same thing right?), I have to go Romney. Why? Cause nothing Obama has done in a "liberal" way domestically has worked to improve things for non-union Americans. Sorry Obama, your the better man but you had your chance.
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Re: Obama or Romney?

Postby Alien Space Bats » Wed May 16, 2012 12:49 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:Eh, as if there really is a difference. Romney isn't as right as he is playing to be and Obama will continue on governing from the center. Glad those are the choices (rather than actual radically different candidates).

Yeah, except that Romney's a limp dishrag who wouldn't dare sneeze without the permission of the far right. He's not another Richard Nixon, for God's sake; he's not capable of standing up for himself. He'll do whatever the Party's ultra-cons tell him to do because he'll be scared to death of drawing a primary challenge in 2016 if he doesn't.

That's the difference between Obama and Romney: Obama may want to go left, but he knows he has no political choice in the end but to run to the center. Romney may want to go to the center, but he knows he has no political choice but to run to the right.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed May 16, 2012 12:52 am

I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.
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Postby Vyvansia » Wed May 16, 2012 1:04 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.


Considering the fact that the NSG population is heavily weighted toward the liberal/leftist side of things, I don't find it surprising at all.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed May 16, 2012 1:29 am

Vyvansia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.


Considering the fact that the NSG population is heavily weighted toward the liberal/leftist side of things, I don't find it surprising at all.

Your right, NSG is the most liberal site on the internet. Why NS gotta be so liberal?
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Jafas United
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Postby Jafas United » Wed May 16, 2012 3:01 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.


Well this isn't a proper scientific poll. Plus, this poll would also be heavily influenced with the votes of under-aged respondents and non-Americans.

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Northern Dominus
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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed May 16, 2012 3:44 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.

Well there is the whole international and unerage aspect to NSG

But then again there's also the fact that Obama is in favor of fundamental civil rights applying to all, oh and making sure people don't have to chose between going into crushing debt to pay for a loved one's life-saving medical care or having to forgo it and watch them waste away. That has a way of convincing people to vote for the President.
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Postby Divair » Wed May 16, 2012 5:40 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Vyvansia wrote:
Considering the fact that the NSG population is heavily weighted toward the liberal/leftist side of things, I don't find it surprising at all.

Your right, NSG is the most liberal site on the internet. Why NS gotta be so liberal?

Because NSG is mature & intelligent, and mature & intelligent people lean liberal.

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Postby Condunum » Wed May 16, 2012 7:08 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Vyvansia wrote:
Considering the fact that the NSG population is heavily weighted toward the liberal/leftist side of things, I don't find it surprising at all.

Your right, NSG is the most liberal site on the internet. Why NS gotta be so liberal?

Actually, it's not. The more vocal posters are liberal, but it's prety centrist (possibly leaning centre-left), when you average it out.

Divair wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Your right, NSG is the most liberal site on the internet. Why NS gotta be so liberal?

Because NSG is mature & intelligent, and mature & intelligent people lean liberal.

Or Centrist. *nod*

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Well after Obama endorsed gay marrige that may have cost him the election, Ohio, Florida, and other socially conservative swing states will now most likely be won by Romney.

You mean Romney didn't already have the conservative swing states?

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I had no idea Obama would be so popular, I sure hope Romney can swing the independant voters to his side.

He's not likely to swing the majority of independents.
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Postby Snoopin Around » Wed May 16, 2012 7:50 am

Obama.

If people actually realised who would be best for the job, Ron Paul would be going against Obama and I'd support him. But either way, Mitt Romney is an idiot.
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Postby Condunum » Wed May 16, 2012 7:50 am

Snoopin Around wrote:Obama.

If people actually realised who would be best for the job, Ron Paul would be going against Obama and I'd support him. But either way, Mitt Romney is an idiot.

Lol. Ron Paul is not good for America. His views are... Bad.
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Northern Dominus
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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed May 16, 2012 8:25 am

Condunum wrote:
Snoopin Around wrote:Obama.

If people actually realised who would be best for the job, Ron Paul would be going against Obama and I'd support him. But either way, Mitt Romney is an idiot.

Lol. Ron Paul is not good for America. His views are... Bad.
What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 16, 2012 8:28 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Condunum wrote:Lol. Ron Paul is not good for America. His views are... Bad.
What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.

No need for Federal government interference. Dr. Paul is quite content to let the state governments interfere as much as they like.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed May 16, 2012 8:56 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote: What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.

No need for Federal government interference. Dr. Paul is quite content to let the state governments interfere as much as they like.
Oh of course. And if I feel like seceding from the state and creating my own province of "Gofuckistan", then surely that would be acceptable too.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 16, 2012 9:11 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Condunum wrote:Lol. Ron Paul is not good for America. His views are... Bad.
What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.

Ye gods, do you know what this means? Ron Paul's platform is...
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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed May 16, 2012 9:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote: What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.

Ye gods, do you know what this means? Ron Paul's platform is...
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CAN'T SOMEONE ELSE DO IT?

You know I THOUGHT I had seen that stance somewhere before... and that's where. Ifreann...we need to get you a show on Current TV :D
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Postby Laerod » Wed May 16, 2012 9:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote: What views? His entire platform is "Eh, we'll let everyone else figure it out, no need for gov't intervention in day to day workings of society."

That's not a view, nor is it leadership. It's an old man out to lunch.

Ye gods, do you know what this means? Ron Paul's platform is...
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CAN'T SOMEONE ELSE DO IT?

And there I was thinking that Hollande and Merkel were Homer...

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Postby Res republica » Wed May 16, 2012 9:21 am

The US is screwed regardless of who takes over the reins. Ron Paul is out now, so we might as well get on our knees and pray..

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 16, 2012 9:23 am

Res republica wrote:The US is screwed regardless of who takes over the reins. Ron Paul is out now, so we might as well get on our knees and pray..

Right ... I don't pray but I would very much love to see Ron Paul as the GOP nominee.

Just out of curiosity ... "Res republica"? Meaning "a republic"?
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Postby Res republica » Wed May 16, 2012 9:38 am

Farnhamia wrote:Right ... I don't pray but I would very much love to see Ron Paul as the GOP nominee.

Just out of curiosity ... "Res republica"? Meaning "a republic"?


It was meant to be res publica, the origin of republic, but that was seemingly taken, so I took the next that got into my head, but in retrospect it sounds stupid

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Postby Laerod » Wed May 16, 2012 9:47 am

Res republica wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Right ... I don't pray but I would very much love to see Ron Paul as the GOP nominee.

Just out of curiosity ... "Res republica"? Meaning "a republic"?


It was meant to be res publica, the origin of republic, but that was seemingly taken, so I took the next that got into my head, but in retrospect it sounds stupid

Could be a Mickey Blue Eyes reference. "The the Trattoria" and all that.

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