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Who do you support for president of the USA in 2012?

I support Mitt Romney
250
21%
I support neither
341
28%
I support Barrack Obama
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51%
 
Total votes : 1215

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 01, 2012 12:12 am

Maurepas wrote:I don't particularly want to support either. But I'll end up voting for Obama, as there aren't any viable third party alternatives, and Romney is incredibly unlikely to give me financial aid of any kind, which is the most important quality in a President.


You have that right. I can't remember where I read it but mittwit was at a school and basically tuned out one student who was telling him how much of a struggle it was to go to school and mittwitt congratulated him. He also advised students to take chances and hit their parents up for loans.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue May 01, 2012 12:20 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I don't particularly want to support either. But I'll end up voting for Obama, as there aren't any viable third party alternatives, and Romney is incredibly unlikely to give me financial aid of any kind, which is the most important quality in a President.


You have that right. I can't remember where I read it but mittwit was at a school and basically tuned out one student who was telling him how much of a struggle it was to go to school and mittwitt congratulated him. He also advised students to take chances and hit their parents up for loans.

Lol, well I'm sure Mitt's dad was more than able to "loan" the little shit any amount he needed.

Some of us however have parents who are also out of work, :/

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 01, 2012 12:32 am

Maurepas wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You have that right. I can't remember where I read it but mittwit was at a school and basically tuned out one student who was telling him how much of a struggle it was to go to school and mittwitt congratulated him. He also advised students to take chances and hit their parents up for loans.

Lol, well I'm sure Mitt's dad was more than able to "loan" the little shit any amount he needed.

Some of us however have parents who are also out of work, :/


That's why he shouldn't run anything. Nothing wrong with success but to lead you have to understand some people actually struggle to exist.
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Postby Meowfoundland » Tue May 01, 2012 12:52 am

Tropical Partiers wrote:
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Then why is coal shrinking and renewable growing?

No, I don't know why Wikipedia graphed the years in reverse.

But renwable is still a tiny portion of the market and Nuclear and Natural Gas are rising faster than renewable.

But nuclear stayed the same?
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue May 01, 2012 1:29 am

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I would definitely want to question on your decision. I personally think that Obama had been doing a great job! I mean, look at what he had given us!

What has he given you?

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue May 01, 2012 1:51 pm

Tropical Partiers wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:(Image)
Then why is coal shrinking and renewable growing?

No, I don't know why Wikipedia graphed the years in reverse.

But renwable is still a tiny portion of the market and Nuclear and Natural Gas are rising faster than renewable.

>1/5 isn't tiny. And I am fine with Nuclear. I'm simply pointing out that renewable is implementable on a widespread scale, contrary to SC's claims.

Edit: huh, I was reading that graph wrong. Damn them for making Natural gas and Renewable such similar colors.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 01, 2012 2:04 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:Edit: huh, I was reading that graph wrong. Damn them for making Natural gas and Renewable such similar colors.

I feel like starting a "Colorblind Against the Use of Non-Base Colors in Games and Graphs" Coalition but the name is cumbersome and we can't figure out the color on the letterhead.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue May 01, 2012 2:26 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Tropical Partiers wrote:But renwable is still a tiny portion of the market and Nuclear and Natural Gas are rising faster than renewable.

>1/5 isn't tiny. And I am fine with Nuclear. I'm simply pointing out that renewable is implementable on a widespread scale, contrary to SC's claims.

Edit: huh, I was reading that graph wrong. Damn them for making Natural gas and Renewable such similar colors.

It would help if the fossil fuel sector didn't get massive government handouts. It's not like it needs them, and it's not like it keeps prices down. I have to fill up my car soon...fucking speculators can go eat drill bits.
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Postby Divair » Tue May 01, 2012 3:14 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:What has he given you?

http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/

I absolutely love that link.

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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Tue May 01, 2012 3:18 pm

Obama. Romney considers Russia his number one foe.
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Postby Choronzon » Tue May 01, 2012 3:19 pm

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:Obama. Romney considers Russia his number one foe.


Where are you getting this from?

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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Tue May 01, 2012 3:21 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:Obama. Romney considers Russia his number one foe.


Where are you getting this from?


Right from Romney. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17526572
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Postby Choronzon » Tue May 01, 2012 3:23 pm

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:
Choronzon wrote:
Where are you getting this from?


Right from Romney. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17526572


Medvedev responded in the best way he could. For the record, Romeny's sincerity on such a belief (just like his sincerity on any belief) should be doubted.

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Postby Ashmoria » Tue May 01, 2012 3:50 pm

Maurepas wrote:I don't particularly want to support either. But I'll end up voting for Obama, as there aren't any viable third party alternatives, and Romney is incredibly unlikely to give me financial aid of any kind, which is the most important quality in a President.

oh borrow the money from your parents if you have to. (actual advice given by mitt romney)
whatever

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 01, 2012 4:25 pm

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:Obama. Romney considers Russia his number one foe.


But can he seem them from his house?
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Tue May 01, 2012 5:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:Obama. Romney considers Russia his number one foe.


But can he seem them from his house?

Given the number of homes he has, that's almost a certainty.
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Tue May 01, 2012 5:56 pm

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Laneige wrote:
I would definitely want to question on your decision. I personally think that Obama had been doing a great job! I mean, look at what he had given us!

What has he given you?

Besides the aqueduct?
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue May 01, 2012 6:16 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
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I would definitely want to question on your decision. I personally think that Obama had been doing a great job! I mean, look at what he had given us!

What has he given you?

The ACA saves me $5,000 a year on health insurance.
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Postby The Capitalist Empire » Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 pm

Mitt Romney ftw. Condolezza Rice would be a good VP.

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Postby Vyvansia » Tue May 15, 2012 11:00 pm

Revolutopia wrote:I like people with personalities, so that only leaves Obama. So Obama.


Is this sarcasm?

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue May 15, 2012 11:01 pm

Vyvansia wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:I like people with personalities, so that only leaves Obama. So Obama.


Is this sarcasm?

Probobly yeah.
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Postby Crogach » Tue May 15, 2012 11:07 pm

While Obama may not be the perfect president right now, he's not that far off the mark, and his policies will bring us closer to economic re-regulation and social freedom (or at least run away from these things far less quickly) than those of a President Romney or a President Paul. Furthermore, the Supreme Court we would get from a continued Obama presidency will be far more friendly to those ideals than the Court we'd wind up with if Romney or Paul were picking the justices. Remember, if we had a different court in 2010 then Citizens United would not have been what it was. If we'd had a different court in 2001, then we never would have had to deal with Bush II and the unwarranted and frankly unjustified war in Iraq.

So far Obama's made two appointments to the court and they've turned out quite nicely. By contrast, even if Romney wouldn't necessarily want to put another round of far-right reactionaries who subscribe to the "corporations are people" mantra on the court, he'd be under a hell of a lot of pressure from people like Grover Norquist to do just that. In fact, if you look at the man he's chosen as the judicial adviser for his campaign (Robert Bork) then it becomes clear that he's already planning on packing the court based on the wishes of his base. The real question is whether we want something approaching a moderate, impartial court or simply a rubber-stamp body for neocons.

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Postby Vyvansia » Tue May 15, 2012 11:10 pm

Alien Space Bats wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
But can he seem them from his house?

Given the number of homes he has, that's almost a certainty.


Why should we care more about what Romney does with his money than what Obama does with our money?

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue May 15, 2012 11:10 pm

Well after Obama endorsed gay marrige that may have cost him the election, Ohio, Florida, and other socially conservative swing states will now most likely be won by Romney.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 15, 2012 11:11 pm

Romney, the urge to wash after saying that has greatly increased.
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