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Who do you support for president of the USA in 2012?

I support Mitt Romney
250
21%
I support neither
341
28%
I support Barrack Obama
624
51%
 
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Warriors United
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Postby Warriors United » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:47 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
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Probably won't, but regardless that's no reason not to rely on petrol fuels. Can't stop the wheels of industry for the environment a lot of us would starve to death. I'd hate to think what would happen if we stopped risk all together there would be no technological or industry progress at all.

We have to use what is available and practical, which is not so-called green energy. Until something comes along that is as effective as fossil fuels, we need to keep using them.

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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:48 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Source on costs?

Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.

First, False. He doesn't. Please source.

And Second, you do realize he gets a salary right?
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Postby Puppyaheinz » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:51 pm

Romny's crazy OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!

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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:53 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Probably won't, but regardless that's no reason not to rely on petrol fuels. Can't stop the wheels of industry for the environment a lot of us would starve to death. I'd hate to think what would happen if we stopped risk all together there would be no technological or industry progress at all.

We have to use what is available and practical, which is not so-called green energy. Until something comes along that is as effective as fossil fuels, we need to keep using them.

Except green energy IS as practical and available. Hydroelectric dams are already in use, and power, for instance, pretty much my entire city (Las Vegas).

Wind farms are popping up everywhere, even in remote areas.

They ARE Practical, ARE available, they just take time to replace Fossil Fuels.
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Postby Puppyaheinz » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:54 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Probably won't, but regardless that's no reason not to rely on petrol fuels. Can't stop the wheels of industry for the environment a lot of us would starve to death. I'd hate to think what would happen if we stopped risk all together there would be no technological or industry progress at all.

We have to use what is available and practical, which is not so-called green energy. Until something comes along that is as effective as fossil fuels, we need to keep using them.

just use solar power it works very good and makes more than it needs so it can store the energy :D

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Source on costs?

Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.

"Anyone paying attention" is not a source. Please give me a valid citation of costs or retract your claim.
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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Warriors United wrote:Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.

"Anyone paying attention" is not a source. Please give me a valid citation of costs or retract your claim.

Ditto.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:58 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Source on costs?

Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.


Aaand no source. I'm unsurprised.

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Postby Warriors United » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:58 pm

Medok wrote:
Warriors United wrote:Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.

First, False. He doesn't. Please source.

And Second, you do realize he gets a salary right?

First, do you watch the news? Actually, don't answer, I already have an idea...

Second, yes. But the kind of money he is spending? I highly doubt it is his own.

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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Medok wrote:First, False. He doesn't. Please source.

And Second, you do realize he gets a salary right?

First, do you watch the news? Actually, don't answer, I already have an idea...

Second, yes. But the kind of money he is spending? I highly doubt it is his own.


Insulting the person, nice plan.

Anyways, you keep voicing doubts, but.....

Source?
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:01 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Medok wrote:First, False. He doesn't. Please source.

And Second, you do realize he gets a salary right?

First, do you watch the news? Actually, don't answer, I already have an idea...

Second, yes. But the kind of money he is spending? I highly doubt it is his own.


>Makes positive assertion
>Doesn't source
>Gets annoyed when people challenge assertions

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Postby Fedeledland » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:02 pm

Liriena wrote:Obama (but secretly wishing it was Hillary)

I find Romney impossible to trust, and Republicans have moved so far into the right of the spectrum that I just can't swallow one single bit of their electoral platform.


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Postby Warriors United » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:02 pm

Medok wrote:
Warriors United wrote:We have to use what is available and practical, which is not so-called green energy. Until something comes along that is as effective as fossil fuels, we need to keep using them.

Except green energy IS as practical and available. Hydroelectric dams are already in use, and power, for instance, pretty much my entire city (Las Vegas).

Wind farms are popping up everywhere, even in remote areas.

They ARE Practical, ARE available, they just take time to replace Fossil Fuels.

Hydropower maybe more practical than the others, but solar and wind? Give me a break. Combined they produce less than 1% of America's energy. Unless there is some major innovation, they are not practical.

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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Medok wrote:Except green energy IS as practical and available. Hydroelectric dams are already in use, and power, for instance, pretty much my entire city (Las Vegas).

Wind farms are popping up everywhere, even in remote areas.

They ARE Practical, ARE available, they just take time to replace Fossil Fuels.

Hydropower maybe more practical than the others, but solar and wind? Give me a break. Combined they produce less than 1% of America's energy. Unless there is some major innovation, they are not practical.

Aaaaaand Dodging the question.

Anyways, I hope you realize that in real life, you can't spawn in industries. That's not how real life works.
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Postby Ehlantians » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Niether, they both suck, we will all be fucked over anyway and by the 2040's China will be dominant.
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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:05 pm

Ehlantians wrote:Niether, they both suck, we will all be fucked over anyway and by the 2040's China will be dominant.

Why do you say that?
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Postby Unified Provinces » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:09 pm

Obama is a communazi, evil muslim bent on destroying our American ways and rights, such as overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries just because they don't agree with us on certain issues, shoving democracy on foreign peoples whether they want it or not, and supporting brutal, harsh dictators,I mean freedom loving patriots!

I'll support Romney. He's for freedom, not Marxism!
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Postby Wamitoria » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:09 pm

Medok wrote:
Ehlantians wrote:Niether, they both suck, we will all be fucked over anyway and by the 2040's China will be dominant.

Why do you say that?

Because he vastly underestimates the structural problems that they'll have to overcome to get to being a hyperpower.
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Postby Medok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:19 pm

Unified Provinces wrote:Obama is a communazi, evil muslim bent on destroying our American ways and rights, such as overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries just because they don't agree with us on certain issues, shoving democracy on foreign peoples whether they want it or not, and supporting brutal, harsh dictators,I mean freedom loving patriots!

I'll support Romney. He's for freedom, not Marxism!

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Postby Unified Provinces » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:21 pm

Medok wrote:
Unified Provinces wrote:Obama is a communazi, evil muslim bent on destroying our American ways and rights, such as overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries just because they don't agree with us on certain issues, shoving democracy on foreign peoples whether they want it or not, and supporting brutal, harsh dictators,I mean freedom loving patriots!

I'll support Romney. He's for freedom, not Marxism!

troll(?)


That is correct sir. p.s. I really don't feel that way at ALL. Just some mocking common arguments you hear from conspiracy theorists and some ribbing at America ;)
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:22 pm

Medok wrote:
Unified Provinces wrote:Obama is a communazi, evil muslim bent on destroying our American ways and rights, such as overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries just because they don't agree with us on certain issues, shoving democracy on foreign peoples whether they want it or not, and supporting brutal, harsh dictators,I mean freedom loving patriots!

I'll support Romney. He's for freedom, not Marxism!

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Postby Ehlantians » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:42 pm

Even if China fails then that will be a big hit to world markets and again America is fucked anyway (a even bigger hit) our debt is rediculous just enjoy life because you wont be able to in a decade.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:17 pm

Warriors United wrote:
Medok wrote:First, False. He doesn't. Please source.

And Second, you do realize he gets a salary right?

First, do you watch the news? Actually, don't answer, I already have an idea...

Second, yes. But the kind of money he is spending? I highly doubt it is his own.


Let me guess. A fox news follower?
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Postby Pyschotika » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:45 pm

Douche bag or Turd Sandwich?

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:09 am

Pyschotika wrote:Douche bag or Turd Sandwich?

No exactly what I would say.
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