Obama or Romney?

[Wikkiwallana]

They both suck ballz but fascism is bad and so I'll take Obama.

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

Given that Obama didn't write SOPA, PIPA, and the NDAA…

[Wamitoria]

Obama has been incredibly fascist. Doesn't things like SOPA, PIPA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and appointing bankers to financial positions in the government, sound fascist to you?

This idea that somehow Obama has less blood on his hands than Bush is absurd. Frankly, I think Romney will be exactly the same as Obama, who was the same as Bush. EVERY president is going to be like Bush, until the American voters stop with this "lesser of two evils" shit.

Given that Obama didn't write SOPA, PIPA, and the NDAA…

And helped kill the first two and is trying to kill CISPA...

[Wikkiwallana]

A vote for Obama is a vote for Marxism

Let's ask the Marxists:
"Hey Marxists, what do you think of Obama?"
"That damn corporatist?"
"Well, someone said a vote for Obama is a vote for Marxism, so I thought I should ask."
"I fucking wish, let me tell you…"


Hmm, seems they disagree.

[Mavorpen]

Safe or not it doesn't matter. The US government has no constitutional authority to stop the drilling even if they did as much as I love nature it's better for them to risk an oil spill if they fill it's necessary than to not drill at all.

That's easy to say when a giant oil spill doesn't happen in your backyard.

[Wikkiwallana]

OK, well Obama spends millions on his vacations, millions in government money.

Source on costs?

[Wikkiwallana]

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/its-not-obamas-fault-crude-oil-prices-have-increased

Wow, when Cato is saying it's not a Democrat's fault, there really mustn't a case to be made to blame them.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

Safe or not it doesn't matter. The US government has no constitutional authority to stop the drilling even if they did as much as I love nature it's better for them to risk an oil spill if they fill it's necessary than to not drill at all.

That's easy to say when a giant oil spill doesn't happen in your backyard.

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

[Archliva]

That's easy to say when a giant oil spill doesn't happen in your backyard.

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

"Let's be reactive and not proactive" argument.

Brutal

[Wikkiwallana]

That's easy to say when a giant oil spill doesn't happen in your backyard.

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

[Hittanryan]

That's easy to say when a giant oil spill doesn't happen in your backyard.

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

"There's an oil slick in my living room!"

"Hire a lawyer and sue."

"I can't afford a lawyer and they have entire legal teams at their disposal."

"Move."

"Why should I have to move because someone else fucked up?"

"Communist."

[Northern Dominus]

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Or bring back the jobs that depended on the environment itself IE tourism, farming, ranching etc.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

That is what lawsuits are for. If another corporation is destroying your property or harming you have the right to boycott, protest are push a lawsuit against said corporation.

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-202961 ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

How will a lawsuit put the top back on this mountain?

[Northern Dominus]

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

Uh huh, and Exxon and BP have spent more time cleaning the environments that they wrecked rather than engaging in massive PR campaigns...

And you're using a british tabloid rag as a source? Keep digging, China's coming up soon.

[Hittanryan]

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

It's been 23 years since the Exxon Valdez spill, and there are still lingering effects. Consider that the BP oil spill was much larger and...no, lawsuits are probably not going to do much. Had they been properly regulated in the first place, it could've been avoided.

[RedPhx]

I vote my interests and as someone who is pro gay rights has a dad who is 50 and still working construction to support a wife and 2 of his 5 kids (rest of us are grown up), had lived in a homeless shelter without insurance for several months, and has a disability I find that Romney doesn't even come close.

[Lithatrius]

Romney.

[Wikkiwallana]

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

How nice, the Daily Mail with anonymous sources. I'm sure convinced.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

How will a lawsuit put the top back on this mountain?

Probably won't, but regardless that's no reason not to rely on petrol fuels. Can't stop the wheels of industry for the environment a lot of us would starve to death. I'd hate to think what would happen if we stopped risk all together there would be no technological or industry progress at all.

[Archliva]

Lawsuits don't fix the environment.

Present for you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

Also of course it does, the money from the lawsuit help to clean the environment or reimburse for any property damage boycotts insure that the corporation will take the clean up seriously unless they want to risk losing profit.

Again, being reactive is possibly the worst thing to happen to citizens and the environment.


"LOL, sorry about that mess. We'll clean it up....What? You still have oil in there after 20 years? umm...yeah, sorry"

I'm sure lawsuits will bring back the environment.

Cleaning up =/= putting back the environment that was lost

[Ashmoria]

its biracial and .... are you posting on an iphone?

How did you know?

iphone auto-complete sucks.

[Hittanryan]

Probably won't, but regardless that's no reason not to rely on petrol fuels. Can't stop the wheels of industry for the environment a lot of us would starve to death. I'd hate to think what would happen if we stopped risk all together there would be no technological or industry progress at all.

How about the fact that oil's just going to run the fuck out one day? Or the fact that technological progress can take the form of improving renewable energy technology?

[Ashmoria]

Don't tread on my pipeline!

So I'd have to support Romney. He seems like a very pragmatic and sensible guy, sort of like a Republican Obama.

Fuck off pipeline. Won't bring gas prices down at all and it'll just give the oil industry more money with which to block alternative energy.

so the fucking koch brothers get even richer, the oil goes to china and WE get the enviromental degradation and cancer.

if canada wants its friggin' tar sand oil refined they should do it themselves or build a pipeline through their own country.

[Leeeeroyyyy7]

Trust me Obama will more than make for that difference when he goes on a spending spree once he's re-elected

Oh look, a claim that has no evidence. This is your specialty isn't it?

Seriously, people?I though stupidest thing I would ever hear was the thought that cutting taxes on the rich is somehow gonna magically help the low and middle class. Marxist ideas involved a violent revolution by the lower class

EDIT: My quote didn't work all the way

[Warriors United]

OK, well Obama spends millions on his vacations, millions in government money.

Source on costs?

Anyone paying attention knows he has spent millions on vacations. And those millions are actually taxpayer dollars as the government does not generate its own money. That is up to the private sector.