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Who do you support for president of the USA in 2012?

I support Mitt Romney
250
21%
I support neither
341
28%
I support Barrack Obama
624
51%
 
Total votes : 1215

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Postby TaQud » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:22 pm

Obama is the 1st African-American Pres. but he's by racial meaning he is part caucassion.
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Archliva
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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:23 pm

Also, add to the fact that Romney endorses the Ryan plan is only another reason not to vote for him.
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Northern Dominus
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:28 pm

Archliva wrote:Also, add to the fact that Romney endorses the Ryan plan is only another reason not to vote for him.

Hear hear. Let's hope the Wisconsinites do something correct for once by drumming him out of office.

I mean its bad enough the rest of us have to suffer cheese-brain mania for 5-6 months out of the year.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:20 pm

Military Forces wrote:OK, well Obama spends millions on his vacations, millions in government money.

are you unaware of how presidents get time off (sort of) now and then? ALL presidents
whatever

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Yandere Schoolgirls
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:24 pm

Connopolis wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:A vote for Obama is a vote for Marxism


Do you even know what Marxism is? If you answer "yes," then you've just admitted that your comment is total bullcrap rhetoric. If you answer "no," then why on Earth are you calling Obama a Marxist if you have no idea what it is? It's people like you that are making Republicans look like lunatics.


Because he is

Obama is also a very liberal candidate with other people's money that is

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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:26 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Connopolis wrote:
Do you even know what Marxism is? If you answer "yes," then you've just admitted that your comment is total bullcrap rhetoric. If you answer "no," then why on Earth are you calling Obama a Marxist if you have no idea what it is? It's people like you that are making Republicans look like lunatics.


Because he is

Obama is also a very liberal candidate with other people's money that is

You mean congress.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:27 pm

TaQud wrote:Obama is the 1st African-American Pres. but he's by racial meaning he is part caucassion.

its biracial and .... are you posting on an iphone?
whatever

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Northern Dominus
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:27 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Connopolis wrote:
Do you even know what Marxism is? If you answer "yes," then you've just admitted that your comment is total bullcrap rhetoric. If you answer "no," then why on Earth are you calling Obama a Marxist if you have no idea what it is? It's people like you that are making Republicans look like lunatics.


Because he is

Obama is also a very liberal candidate with other people's money that is

[Citations needed]
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:28 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Connopolis wrote:
Do you even know what Marxism is? If you answer "yes," then you've just admitted that your comment is total bullcrap rhetoric. If you answer "no," then why on Earth are you calling Obama a Marxist if you have no idea what it is? It's people like you that are making Republicans look like lunatics.


Because he is

How convincing.

If he was instituting Marxism (which is a philosophy, not an economic system, btw), I probably wouldn't be typing this on a computer I bought with my own money.
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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:29 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Because he is

Obama is also a very liberal candidate with other people's money that is

[Citations needed]

That's going to be needed for the foreseeable future.

Though I'll be waiting for him to claim that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:32 pm

Archliva wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:[Citations needed]

That's going to be needed for the foreseeable future.

Though I'll be waiting for him to claim that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.

Which is only a couple sideways leaps of logic to "He was born in Kenya and therefore elected illegally"
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Postby TaQud » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:36 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
TaQud wrote:Obama is the 1st African-American Pres. but he's by racial meaning he is part caucassion.

its biracial and .... are you posting on an iphone?

How did you know?
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:54 pm

Archliva wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:[Citations needed]

That's going to be needed for the foreseeable future.

Though I'll be waiting for him to claim that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.


I can explain why if you want me to

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:55 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Archliva wrote:That's going to be needed for the foreseeable future.

Though I'll be waiting for him to claim that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.


I can explain why if you want me to

Only if you have citations to back it up.
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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:57 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Archliva wrote:That's going to be needed for the foreseeable future.

Though I'll be waiting for him to claim that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.


I can explain why if you want me to

Meaningless to me if you don't have sources since I'm armed with sources that back me up.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:59 pm

Archliva wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
I can explain why if you want me to

Meaningless to me if you don't have sources since I'm armed with sources that back me up.

Ive seen em too, they're ENORMOUS...

Oh wait...dammit that didn't come out right AGAIN.
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:10 pm

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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:12 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Change we can believe in. Thanks Obama now gas prices have doubled.

You do realize that gas prices were low when he came into office because the economy was falling apart, right?
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Change we can believe in. Thanks Obama now gas prices have doubled.

You do realize that gas prices were low when he came into office because the economy was falling apart, right?

You have it backwards. He got into office, and so then economy started falling and gas prices became high

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:17 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:You do realize that gas prices were low when he came into office because the economy was falling apart, right?

You have it backwards. He got into office, and so then economy started falling and gas prices became high


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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:18 pm



Gas prices double UNDER (Hint: under) Obama.

Under =/= he drove up gas prices.

It's the same thing about spending. Trillions of dollars were added under Obama. Let's see if we can name those trillion dollar pieces of legislation that he signed.

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Northern Dominus
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:22 pm

Let's play "Six degrees of propaganda".ok the title needs to be catchier but you get the drift.


Ah the weekly standard, second in neo-con propaganda factory-fresh misinformation turnout only to Fox News. Remember this is the same news outlet that smeared a soldier for blowing the whistle on shock trooper actions in Iraq.
Guess Rupert Murdoch does have a favorite baby...


This is all I have to say about that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times#Political_leanings


Way to cite a general article. How about specifics? Maybe a comparative graph from a source that isn't a neo-con think tank?
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:The more you know


I know quite a lot actually.
I know The Weekly Standard deliberately misrepresents their sources for sensationalist propaganda purposes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/weekly-standard-gas-prices_n_1342956.html
As does the Washington Post
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/09/25/328089/the-fact-checker-fails-washington-post-okays-mcconnel-lies-while-dissing-bill-clintons-truths/

And I also know who was in office when the economy took a nose dive and put the nation in this mess in the first place.

Edited to re-enforce just where those "sources" came from and who put them up.
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Postby Manahakatouki » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:22 pm

I'd vote for Obama if I could (Canadian citizen...)...
And so it was, that I had never changed.

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Postby Archliva » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:24 pm

Please don't tell me you think domestic drilling will lower down gas prices.

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