Is There a God?

[Chadacian]

What laws do you use to prove certain points in this world?

Could you rephrase the question?

My Bad, do you use the Laws of Logic, Absolute Moral Laws etc.

[Person012345]

Could you rephrase the question?

My Bad, do you use the Laws of Logic, Absolute Moral Laws etc.

One uses logic and evidence, because these things have been repeatedly demonstrated to lead to useful truths. Unlike, say, faith.

[Chadacian]

That was not my question. But ok. Is the Universe random and material in nature?

[Leepaidamba]

That was not my question. But ok. Is the Universe random and material in nature?

Whether there is such a thing as randomness or not is a question that we can't presently answer given our current knowledge. However, it does appear that everything is material or the result of material.

[Person012345]

That was not my question.

Then I didn't understand it.

But ok. Is the Universe random and material in nature?

Material - That depends exactly what you mean. It's not all made of matter, we know that energy exists and things like that... you'd need to explain what you mean better.

And Random? Again, it depends what you mean. There certainly is not a specific purpose to everything being the way it is, but it's not like natural laws can be violated at random. The universe behaves the way it behaves, and everything that happens is as a consequence of that.

[Chadacian]

That was not my question. But ok. Is the Universe random and material in nature?

Whether there is such a thing as randomness or not is a question that we can't presently answer given our current knowledge. However, it does appear that everything is material or the result of material.

But universal, non-changing, and immaterial laws are needed for rational thinking to be possible.

[Chinese Regions]

God exists.

I know I exist.

[Chinese Regions]

Whether there is such a thing as randomness or not is a question that we can't presently answer given our current knowledge. However, it does appear that everything is material or the result of material.

But universal, non-changing, and immaterial laws are needed for rational thinking to be possible.

Immaterial laws? All laws are immaterial, but their interaction? Is material and natural.

[Chadacian]

That was not my question.

Then I didn't understand it.

But ok. Is the Universe random and material in nature?

Material - That depends exactly what you mean. It's not all made of matter, we know that energy exists and things like that... you'd need to explain what you mean better.

And Random? Again, it depends what you mean. There certainly is not a specific purpose to everything being the way it is, but it's not like natural laws can be violated at random. The universe behaves the way it behaves, and everything that happens is as a consequence of that.

There is no god, but yet the Universe has a behavior?

[Chadacian]

But universal, non-changing, and immaterial laws are needed for rational thinking to be possible.

Immaterial laws? All laws are immaterial, but their interaction? Is material and natural.

You basically just repeated what I said but added something that is totally irrelevant.

[Chinese Regions]

Then I didn't understand it.


Material - That depends exactly what you mean. It's not all made of matter, we know that energy exists and things like that... you'd need to explain what you mean better.

And Random? Again, it depends what you mean. There certainly is not a specific purpose to everything being the way it is, but it's not like natural laws can be violated at random. The universe behaves the way it behaves, and everything that happens is as a consequence of that.

There is no god, but yet the Universe has a behavior?

Why does there have to be a god for the universe to have behaviour?
Are you asserting non-sentient objects can't have behaviour?

[New England and The Maritimes]

Then I didn't understand it.


Material - That depends exactly what you mean. It's not all made of matter, we know that energy exists and things like that... you'd need to explain what you mean better.

And Random? Again, it depends what you mean. There certainly is not a specific purpose to everything being the way it is, but it's not like natural laws can be violated at random. The universe behaves the way it behaves, and everything that happens is as a consequence of that.

There is no god, but yet the Universe has a behavior?

Oh look, a theist resorting to a semantic argument. I totally did not see that coming.

[Ifreann]

God exists.

Prove it.

You mean you're not just taking the word of an internet stranger?

[Person012345]

There is no god, but yet the Universe has a behavior?

Essentially. Not in the sense of a choice though. Is this leading to "why things behave the way they do"? We don't fully know the reason for everything behaving as it does yet. The best we can say is simply that they do, which is borne out by observation.

[Chinese Regions]

Immaterial laws? All laws are immaterial, but their interaction? Is material and natural.

You basically just repeated what I said but added something that is totally irrelevant.

Define 'material'? Do you mean something that is not supernatural like god ? Do you mean something that is physical? Such as a brick or a piece of plastic?

[Leepaidamba]

Whether there is such a thing as randomness or not is a question that we can't presently answer given our current knowledge. However, it does appear that everything is material or the result of material.

But universal, non-changing, and immaterial laws are needed for rational thinking to be possible.

Those laws are only descriptions of what happens due to the properties of things. They are not a prerequisite.

[Kakistopolis]

There was a God, but He left this universe to go create other universes, and doesn't have time for running this one. That's why he has instructed me and my fellow believers to kill everyone that disagrees. He'd kill you Himself, but, He's busy.

[Chadacian]

There is no god, but yet the Universe has a behavior?

Essentially. Not in the sense of a choice though. Is this leading to "why things behave the way they do"? We don't fully know the reason for everything behaving as it does yet. The best we can say is simply that they do, which is borne out by observation.

Ok. Things just behave that way because they do? I mean really don't sit back and think about how the Perfect the Earth is in terms of supporting human life. Any life for that matter.

[Person012345]

Please note that "behaviour" does not imply any sort of conscious decision. We can describe the behaviour of a falling object using mathematics. We can predict how fast it will fall and so on. The fact that it falls is called it's behaviour because it's been demonstrated to do the same thing repeatedly, and it's safe to assume it will continue to do the same thing.

[Samuraikoku]

God exists.

The Emperor protects.

[Person012345]

Essentially. Not in the sense of a choice though. Is this leading to "why things behave the way they do"? We don't fully know the reason for everything behaving as it does yet. The best we can say is simply that they do, which is borne out by observation.

Ok. Things just behave that way because they do? I mean really don't sit back and think about how the Perfect the Earth is in terms of supporting human life. Any life for that matter.

It's not though. Most of the world is extremely hostile to life. And if there is life on, say, titan, it would probably be incapable of living on the earth without substantial infrastructure. Life adapts to where it lives and improves through natural selection, therefore life on a given planet will find it's own planet to be "perfect".

Additionally, what do you think the chances of a planet like earth forming at random? In the so-called "goldilocks zone", of rock and so on?

[Chadacian]

Please note that "behaviour" does not imply any sort of conscious decision. We can describe the behaviour of a falling object using mathematics. We can predict how fast it will fall and so on. The fact that it falls is called it's behaviour because it's been demonstrated to do the same thing repeatedly, and it's safe to assume it will continue to do the same thing.

So do you absolutely deny the existence of God

[Nidaria]

God exists.

Prove it.

Read the past 200 pages.

[Person012345]

Please note that "behaviour" does not imply any sort of conscious decision. We can describe the behaviour of a falling object using mathematics. We can predict how fast it will fall and so on. The fact that it falls is called it's behaviour because it's been demonstrated to do the same thing repeatedly, and it's safe to assume it will continue to do the same thing.

So do you absolutely deny the existence of God

How did you get that from my post? I said nothing of the sort. I was clarifying my definition.

Do you believe in intelligent falling?

[Person012345]

Prove it.

Read the past 200 pages.

I think perhaps you should.