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Postby Divair » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:59 pm

Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

What. Seriously, just what.


You're jumping all over the place making claims that make no sense and then failing to provide proof. If you actually have a point and evidence to back it, please, by all means, say so.

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:36 pm

Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

The speed of light is constant, has been constant since light came to exist, and will remain constant for the foreseeable future.

Whoever taught you science knew nothing about science.
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Postby Orenica » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:02 pm

One doesn't need to look at light, evolution or the big bang theory to disprove the existence of an omni-benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient Christian God......
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1. Why, if there is a God?

i) And if 'God works in mysterious ways...'/'Its all part of His Plan' then why doesn't He explain His Ways/His Plan to us?
ii) And if His Plan/Way is too complex for us to grasp, then, being omnipotent, He could make it simpler or us smarter.
iii) And if He could do so but doesn't why worship Him?

Would you kindly counter that, O Christians of the thread?
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

Pass me whatever you are smoking.
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Postby Kleomentia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:11 pm

Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:14 pm

Salamanstrom wrote: But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change.


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Postby Thisbia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:15 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

Pass me whatever you are smoking.

I'll pass on whatever he is smoking!
The speed of light is and has always been absolute:

The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time. In imperial units this speed is approximately 186,282 miles per second.

A physical constant is a physical quantity that is generally believed to be both universal in nature and constant in time. It can be contrasted with a mathematical constant, which is a fixed numerical value, but does not directly involve any physical measurement.

In mathematics, a constant is a non-varying value, i.e. a value that is completely fixed or fixed in the context of use. The term usually occurs in opposition to variable (i.e. variable quantity), which is a symbol that stands for a value that may vary.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:27 pm

Thisbia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Pass me whatever you are smoking.

I'll pass on whatever he is smoking!
The speed of light is and has always been absolute:

The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time. In imperial units this speed is approximately 186,282 miles per second.

A physical constant is a physical quantity that is generally believed to be both universal in nature and constant in time. It can be contrasted with a mathematical constant, which is a fixed numerical value, but does not directly involve any physical measurement.

In mathematics, a constant is a non-varying value, i.e. a value that is completely fixed or fixed in the context of use. The term usually occurs in opposition to variable (i.e. variable quantity), which is a symbol that stands for a value that may vary.

Please put this in your pipe and smoke it. ty

How does this in any way shape or form show speed of "light is going down at very unconstant speed".
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Postby Thisbia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:31 pm

It doesn't!! That's my point. It hasn't changed since I was in grade school. The guy is just trying to make it sound like scientist are chenging their figures and dont know what they are talking about.
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Postby Bobbyland420 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:38 pm

No.

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Postby Kleomentia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:40 pm

Bobbyland420 wrote:No.

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Postby Archnar » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:46 pm

There is no evidence for a god atall. There are logical trains of thought that preclude the existence of god (for example what created god). Even you can prove that god is both possible and does exist, you still have no evidence he/she (other?) is of any of the 1,000s religion on earth.

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Postby Kleomentia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:47 pm

Archnar wrote:There is no evidence for a god atall. There are logical trains of thought that preclude the existence of god (for example what created god). Even you can prove that god is both possible and does exist, you still have no evidence he/she (other?) is of any of the 1,000s religion on earth.

Define god, its obvious that God as a being doesnt exist.
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Postby Sentinel XV » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:23 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Salamanstrom wrote:Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.

Pass me whatever you are smoking.

It's obviously quite potent.
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Postby Sentinel XV » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:25 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Thisbia wrote:I'll pass on whatever he is smoking!
The speed of light is and has always been absolute:

The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time. In imperial units this speed is approximately 186,282 miles per second.

A physical constant is a physical quantity that is generally believed to be both universal in nature and constant in time. It can be contrasted with a mathematical constant, which is a fixed numerical value, but does not directly involve any physical measurement.

In mathematics, a constant is a non-varying value, i.e. a value that is completely fixed or fixed in the context of use. The term usually occurs in opposition to variable (i.e. variable quantity), which is a symbol that stands for a value that may vary.

Please put this in your pipe and smoke it. ty

How does this in any way shape or form show speed of "light is going down at very unconstant speed".

I think he was trying to illustrate the fact that it's not "going down at very unconstant speed".
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Postby Thisbia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:57 pm

Yes Sentinel, that is exactly what was trying to show.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:16 pm

Divair wrote:
Salamanstrom wrote:because math is unreliable. I can easily say that theory proves that movement is impossible

How does what theory prove movement is impossible?

ten internet bucks says he uses zeno's paradox.

although I have noticed he never actually answer's anybody.
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Postby Salamanstrom » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:31 pm

Yes, I used zeno's paradox, which isn't true in reality but in math. Which is what I was trying to show. Plus, I don't answer since I don't spend my life online.

anyways,
http://www.wnd.com/2004/07/25852/
http://opfocus.org/index.php?topic=story&v=8&s=4
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1995/58/

is a start on the speed of light going down at an um constant speed. Yeah I was kinda wrong, but it's still slowing down.

on and
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/new ... mic-clocks

explains how the atomic clock has very bad inconsisities in it.
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Postby Salamanstrom » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:33 pm

oh, and i would feel safe to say that very few of you will actually click on the links, and almost none will read them. :meh:
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:34 pm

Salamanstrom wrote:Yes, I used zeno's paradox, which isn't true in reality but in math. Which is what I was trying to show. Plus, I don't answer since I don't spend my life online.

anyways,
http://www.wnd.com/2004/07/25852/
http://opfocus.org/index.php?topic=story&v=8&s=4
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1995/58/

is a start on the speed of light going down at an um constant speed. Yeah I was kinda wrong, but it's still slowing down.

on and
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/new ... mic-clocks

explains how the atomic clock has very bad inconsisities in it.

Zeno's paradox simply isn't true, period.
Yes, you have to get half of the way there before you can get all of the way there, and half of the way to half of the way there, and so forth ad infinitum. Luckily, it's possible to traverse an infinite set. There are an infinite number of fractions between 1 and 2. You can still go from 1 to 2, despite having an infinite number of fractions in between.

Oh, and your first three sources don't support you. The first is biased towards anti-science groups. Not exactly the best source for reliable scientific information. The second is simply stating that it is a possible explanation for a couple of things. That doesn't make it true. The third describes itself as “Bringing the world into focus through the lens of Scripture." Not exactly the best source for anything reliable, either.
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Postby Salamanstrom » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:37 pm

fine, forget that arguement
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Postby Multiflow » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:38 pm

Yes, math is absolute, but where do I place the zero?
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Postby Stronbollia » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:43 pm

Yes. Theories to support this Answer?
Big Bang-Universe can be tracked back to an origin. Universe cannot just come out of nothing, existence cannot spring out of non-existence. It violates rules of common sense. The God theory explains this quite beautifully
DNA-All life has the same code written into its DNA, it was almost like life was programmed. (God being the programmer)
Life in General-Earth was just a boiling rock of lifelessness and then one day life just appeared out of nowhere about 3 Billion years ago. What caused the existence of organism to just spring out of lifelessness? Scientific community is baffled
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:52 pm

Stronbollia wrote:Yes. Theories to support this Answer?
Big Bang-Universe can be tracked back to an origin. Universe cannot just come out of nothing, existence cannot spring out of non-existence. It violates rules of common sense. The God theory explains this quite beautifully
DNA-All life has the same code written into its DNA, it was almost like life was programmed. (God being the programmer)
Life in General-Earth was just a boiling rock of lifelessness and then one day life just appeared out of nowhere about 3 Billion years ago. What caused the existence of organism to just spring out of lifelessness? Scientific community is baffled
Double Slit Experiment(look it up on your own time here's a link) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

Then what made god? Why does looking like something support it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life God isn't needed to create life. 4th is that weird stuff happens in physics what else is new? Finally what evidence supports YOUR interpretation of god?
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