Is There a God?

[Benburger]

Okay, it is believed there is a god, but if there is a god he or she won't let racists, rapists and facists around but at the same time we do not know, but many people are undecided including me.

[Xathranaar]

Okay, it is believed there is a god, but if there is a god he or she won't let racists, rapists and facists around but at the same time we do not know, but many people are undecided including me.

Evidence for any of that.

I mean god seems to be a fan of rape, racism, and nationalism in his books.

[Farnhamia]

Okay, it is believed there is a god, but if there is a god he or she won't let racists, rapists and facists around but at the same time we do not know, but many people are undecided including me.

Evidence for any of that.

I mean god seems to be a fan of rape, racism, and nationalism in his books.

You understood that?

[Risottia]

Evidence for any of that.

I mean god seems to be a fan of rape, racism, and nationalism in his books.

You understood that?

If so, 432 pages of a thread haven't been entirely wasted.

[The Holy Twig]

Evidence for any of that.

I mean god seems to be a fan of rape, racism, and nationalism in his books.

You understood that?

"Understood" is a strong word.
"Interpreted" maybe.

[Wind in the Willows]

No there isn't.

[Komish]

Nope almost entirely unlikely, Russels teapot and similar ideas easily disprove any argument for somthing you cannot see.

[Chinese Regions]

Spirit of non-matter and please don't say ''therefore he does not exist''.

Therefore he does not exist.

Everything that exists is made of matter.

Anti-matter, energy and waves want a word.
Although mass-energy equivalence means both matter and anti-matter are physical forms energy it's still incorrect to say everything that exists is made of matter.

[Roan Cara]

I really wish there was some rule on here about not posting thread topics that have been repeated several times for more than a year. This exact topic has been brought up several times every year I have been on NS even on the old forum...

[Farnhamia]

I really wish there was some rule on here about not posting thread topics that have been repeated several times for more than a year. This exact topic has been brought up several times every year I have been on NS even on the old forum...

That's no solution. We'd end up talk about the weather. If you think the topic pointless or boring, ignore the thread.

[Orcoa]

Sure there is a god....and his name is Darkseid

[Sociobiology]

I really wish there was some rule on here about not posting thread topics that have been repeated several times for more than a year. This exact topic has been brought up several times every year I have been on NS even on the old forum...

we tried creating a megathread but it always ends up locked.

[Great Nepal]

I really wish there was some rule on here about not posting thread topics that have been repeated several times for more than a year. This exact topic has been brought up several times every year I have been on NS even on the old forum...

Here's a revolutionary thought... ignore topics you dont like.

[Caecuser]

I think this question relates here; do you think that the universe has a purpose?

[Salandriagado]

I think this question relates here; do you think that the universe has a purpose?

Define "purpose".

[Sentinel XV]

I think this question relates here; do you think that the universe has a purpose?

"Purpose" is a purely human construction. Imposing such a notion onto the universe, a decidedly nonhuman entity, is laughable.

[Retro Lyra]

Possibly, possibly not, though I suppose I'll find out when I die.

[The Killed]

No. There are many gods, and Muhammad isn't their prophet.

[Ceannairceach]

As the Son of God, I'd like to say that I hope there isn't a God.

[Evraim]

I really wish there was some rule on here about not posting thread topics that have been repeated several times for more than a year. This exact topic has been brought up several times every year I have been on NS even on the old forum...

Here's a revolutionary thought... ignore topics you dont like.

I'm a counter-revolutionary. This shall never occur.

[Salamanstrom]

There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions - Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?

Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.

This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.


This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.



So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.



Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.



The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"

Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"

So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...

Paul was aware of this when he wrote his letter to the Hebrews:
Everything ".. waxes old like a garment" (quoted in both Psalm 102:25-27, and also Hebrews 1:10-12).

"This verse "anticipates the famous second law of thermodynamics, or law of entropy, indicating that everything in the physical universe is growing old and wearing out. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" - Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.


Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.

If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.



Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew.

You see, such theories do not give an absolute answer of truth. They only serve to cause people to become distracted and lose sight of the larger picture of the Creator and who God is. Satan is a master of deception and distraction. He wants you to lose sight of Christ, and focus on impossible things.

[Caecuser]

There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions - Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?

Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.

This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.


This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.



So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.



Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.



The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"

Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"

So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...

Paul was aware of this when he wrote his letter to the Hebrews:
Everything ".. waxes old like a garment" (quoted in both Psalm 102:25-27, and also Hebrews 1:10-12).

"This verse "anticipates the famous second law of thermodynamics, or law of entropy, indicating that everything in the physical universe is growing old and wearing out. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" - Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.


Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.

If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.



Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew.

You see, such theories do not give an absolute answer of truth. They only serve to cause people to become distracted and lose sight of the larger picture of the Creator and who God is. Satan is a master of deception and distraction. He wants you to lose sight of Christ, and focus on impossible things.

Where in the Big Bang Theory does it say that the universe was ever point-like?

[Mavorpen]

There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions - Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?

Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.

This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.


This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.



So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.



Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.



The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"

Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"

So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...

Paul was aware of this when he wrote his letter to the Hebrews:
Everything ".. waxes old like a garment" (quoted in both Psalm 102:25-27, and also Hebrews 1:10-12).

"This verse "anticipates the famous second law of thermodynamics, or law of entropy, indicating that everything in the physical universe is growing old and wearing out. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" - Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.


Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.

If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.



Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew.

You see, such theories do not give an absolute answer of truth. They only serve to cause people to become distracted and lose sight of the larger picture of the Creator and who God is. Satan is a master of deception and distraction. He wants you to lose sight of Christ, and focus on impossible things.

Thanks forthe copy pasta.

[Salamanstrom]

Yeah, so no one can complain I didn't cite my sources or something. Oh, and from a science website.

The top scientific theory regarding the beginning of the universe is the Big Bang, a term first used by Fred Hoyle in 1950. In this theory, the universe began 13.7 billion years ago. It started as a single point, smaller than an atomic nucleus, with an infinitely high temperature and an infinite density.

a single point...

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yeah, so no one can complain I didn't cite my sources or something.

You didn't. Someone else did.

Oh, and from a science website.
The top scientific theory regarding the beginning of the universe is the Big Bang, a term first used by Fred Hoyle in 1950. In this theory, the universe began 13.7 billion years ago. It started as a single point, smaller than an atomic nucleus, with an infinitely high temperature and an infinite density.
a single point...

"Single point" being used because it's the most simple way of explaining the craziness of the Big Bang.

I'd recommend Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything; it explains the concept quite well and relatively simply.